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    Post by rumbeando Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:39 pm

    Ne znamo, slažem se.

    Ali znamo da je u američkim otpadnim vodama virusa više nego ikad, tako da ne bih otpisivao mogućnost da je da je to zato što ima gomila ljudi koji ga imaju, a nemaju ikakve bitne simptome da bi jurili kod lekara.

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    The omicron variant has quickly surpassed the delta variant in collections taken from wastewater sampling sites in Orange County, officials said.

    A sampling this week showed that omicron represented almost 100% of the strains in the samples from the wastewater facilities, Orange County Utilities spokesperson Sarah Lux said in an email.

    It's a different story when it comes to people seeking treatment for COVID-19, officials said.

    “Those who are hospitalized are being primarily infected by the delta variant,” Orange County Mayor Jerry Demings said Wednesday at a news conference held at the Orlando International Airport.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/omicron-dominant-wastewater-samples-florida-county-81793644
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:01 pm

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    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?tab=map&zoomToSelection=true&region=Africa&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=Biweekly+change&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:03 pm



    pa napravite ga majku vam jebem
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:10 pm

    Još jedna studija (na pseudovirusu, doduše) koja kazuje da se omikron ne snalazi baš u plućima.







    https://www.citiid.cam.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/FIGURES-OMICRON-PAPER.pdf
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    Post by MNE Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:11 pm

    glupa su ova poređenja naravno da će u decembru biti više hospitalizacija od virusa prehlade nego u julu
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    Post by MNE Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:24 pm

    kod nas je omikron prisutan više od 15 dana a u nekoliko opština i više od 10, broj pozitivnih na dnevnom nivou nastavlja da pada...ili delta jako brzo odlazi ili skorije preležana korona mnogo bolje radi protiv omikrona nego ona preležana prije pola godine ili godinu (kao u JA)
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:39 pm

    ma jok, mrzi ga
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:21 am

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    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1042221/20211218_OS_Daily-Omicron-Overview.pdf
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    Post by Del Cap Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:53 pm

    “We believe Covid will transition to an endemic state, potentially by 2024,” Nanette Cocero, global president of Pfizer Vaccines, said Friday, per CNBC.

    Mikael Dolsten, Pfizer’s chief scientific officer, said the future of the virus depends on vaccines and treatment.

    “When and how exactly this happens will depend on the evolution of the disease, how effectively society deploys vaccines and treatments, and equitable distribution to places where vaccination rates are low,” Dolsten said, per CNBC. “The emergence of new variants could also impact how the pandemic continues to play out.”
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:53 pm

    Kai Kupferschmidt, 1h, 9 tweets, 5 min read
    Germany’s new expert council weighs in on #omicron:
    "Due to the simultaneous, extreme number of patients, a considerable overload of the hospitals is to be expected - even in the unlikely case of significantly weakened disease severity compared to the Delta variant" 
    They call for:
    - further measures to reduce contacts
    - enforcing current measures
    - intensifying vaccination and booster campaigns
    "all models show that booster vaccinations alone do not adequately contain the omicron wave, but that additional contact restrictions are necessary" 
    Beyond political decisions, "the population must be called upon to actively control infections. This includes avoiding larger gatherings, the consistent, preferred wearing of FFP2 masks, especially indoors, as well as the increased use of rapid tests at gatherings…" 
    "Particularly vulnerable groups require increased protective measures through high-frequency testing and FFP2 masks.
    In all decisions, interests of particularly stressed and vulnerable groups, such as children, young people or those in need of care, must be given top priority." 
    The experts “expect enormous challenges in the coming weeks and months, which will require joint and timely action from all.
    In addition to consistent action, clear explanations are crucial." 
    "The omicron wave hits a population that has been exhausted by a nearly two-year pandemic and its control, and in which massive tensions are evident on a daily basis.”
    Communication "with clear explanations of the new risk situation and the resulting measures is essential." 
    The committee of 19 experts includes scientists like @ViolaPriesemann, @CorneliaBetsch, @alena_buyx, @Sander_Lab and @c_drosten. They unanimously agreed to this text.

    The entire document in German:
    bundesregierung.de/resource/blob/…
     
    @mentions(My two cents:
    Seems in line with the conclusions that countries sightly ahead of us in the omicron wave are reaching.
    There is a lot of uncertainty, but by the time we’re certain it will be too late.
    Good to see communication feature prominently in the opinion. Huge challenge!) 
    @mentions(Also worth remembering that Germany is in a worse position than countries like Norway, Denmark or UK in terms of immunity given comparatively low vaccination rate and low levels of immunity from infections.
    Boostering quite fast though.)
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    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1472626326595162114.html
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:53 pm

    Tom Moultrie, 7h, 12 tweets, 4 min read
    A series of mini-thoughts for a Sunday afternoon. South Africa vs. Rest of the World - the Omicron Edition.
    1) We are pretty confident that Gauteng, the province at the South African Omicron epicentre is past its peak in terms of proportion of tests returning positive. 
    2) Despite massive number of cases (and incredibly high PTP: in the week to 11Dec, in Gauteng an ALL-TIME high of 38.7% - and an intra-week daily high of 41% when looking at PCR tests only), we have seen relatively few hospitalisations and deaths. 
    3) It really *does seem* as if South Africa, my country, will escape relatively unscathed in this wave.
    None of that is particularly new. But other things gnaw at me. 
    4) Excess natural deaths as of 11 Dec were 278 000 as per our weekly @MRCza report.
    samrc.ac.za/reports/report…
    We have also been of the view that between 85 and 95% of these ED, over the entire course of the epidemic, are related to Covid (genus.springeropen.com/articles/10.11…)
    Rapid mortality surveillance using a national population register to monitor excess deaths during SARS-CoV-2 pandemic in South Africa - GenusThis paper describes how an up-to-date national population register recording deaths by age and sex, whether deaths were due to natural or unnatural causes, and the offices at which the deaths were re…https://genus.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s41118-021-00134-6
    5) So that means, perhaps 250 000 Covid deaths since Autumn 2020. (cf: the official number of barely 90 000). Expressed per million, that is an 'unofficial Covid deaths' of around 4 200. 
    6) From Worldometer (yes, I *know* - I am pulling approximates here), the UK is around 2 150 -- roughly HALF the unofficial SA number 
    7) I am struck by this comparison from OWID. Their SA data are ours (but all-cause not natural-only).
    And we can see towards of the beta wave, excess deaths in the two countries were of a kind.
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    8) But the UK had begun to vaccinate extensively by then. Our programme only got going in July, by which time Delta was on us. 
    9) SO. WHAT IF ... South Africa's 'light escape' (in the context of a QUARTER OF A MILLION excess natural deaths) is _in no small measure because_ we 'bought' that present at horrendous cost during past waves. 
    10) No, I do not have the answers. Yes, I am deeply grateful by what we are seeing here. But, I am appalled by how the South African Experience ™ is being used to weaponise against unfolding events in other countries ("don't intervene, it's a nothingburger" says my bete noire) 
    11) Until we have a better sense of the issues raised here (esp in #9), premature celebration is uncalled for outside of SA; and in SA, perhaps we should spare a thought for the families of 250 000 of our fellow citizens whose loved ones will not be joining them for Christmas. 
    11) Careful data analysis, and a deep appreciation of local knowledge and specificities, coupled with global action (as argued with @GYamey and @BillHanage last week: time.com/6128506/omicro…) may yet get us through this.
    Let's Not Be Fatalistic About Omicron. We Know How to Fight ItThe Omicron variant is starting to hit the world but have the tools to fight it—only if we heed the lessons of the last two years
    https://time.com/6128506/omicron-covid-19-how-to-fight/
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1472626326595162114.html
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    Post by kondo Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:56 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:Ovo će biti maltene nemoguće izbeći. Jedino 9 sati dnevno kn95 i izlazak iz stana kroz prozor.


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    hehe malo ti je trebalo da se vratiš na fabrička podešavanja

    a kako znaš da si uopšte izbegao do sada? ozbiljno pitam.


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    Post by MNE Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:37 pm

    kod nas je mnogo veća šansa da ti život sjebe neki "prijatelj", poznanik i slično nego ovaj virus tako da ne vidim čemu ovolika halabuka
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:49 pm

    kondo wrote:
    Mór Thököly wrote:Ovo će biti maltene nemoguće izbeći. Jedino 9 sati dnevno kn95 i izlazak iz stana kroz prozor.


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    hehe malo ti je trebalo da se vratiš na fabrička podešavanja

    a kako znaš da si uopšte izbegao do sada? ozbiljno pitam.

    Pa tako sto niko oko mene nije dobio, 5toro ljudi koje regularno vidjam svako malo bez maske.
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:54 pm

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    Only 1.7% of identified Covid-19 cases were admitted to hospital in the second week of infections in the fourth [omicron] wave, compared with 19% in the same week of the third delta-driven wave, South African Health Minister Joe Phaahla said at a press conference. 
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-17/s-africa-says-hospitalizations-in-omicron-wave-much-lower
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    Post by kondo Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:15 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:
    kondo wrote:


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    hehe malo ti je trebalo da se vratiš na fabrička podešavanja

    a kako znaš da si uopšte izbegao do sada? ozbiljno pitam.

    Pa tako sto niko oko mene nije dobio, 5toro ljudi koje regularno vidjam svako malo bez maske.

    ne znam, ovo što rumbi  piše o virusu u otpadnim vodama upućuje na čitav dijapazon drugačijih zaključaka


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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:36 pm

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    Omicron is probably in the process of becoming the majority in Île-de-France [Paris region] (using manually de-smoothed data, as SpF does not publish it)
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    In France, Omicron today represents between 5% and 7% of cases (in reality surely a little more, because the data smoothed over a week are ~ three days behind reality).
    Omicron's rise offsets Delta's drop.
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    The region most concerned is Île-de-France [Paris region], with a high number of cases possibly being Omicron (up to 19.3 %) . The drop in Delta is compensated for.
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    In Île-de-France, this increase linked to Omicron is carried by 20-39 year olds: the incidence rate went from 650 to 850 in just three days
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    This is a phenomenon that is also observed in Denmark, London and South Africa.
    Paris is the most affected department: up to 27% of cases could correspond to Omicron, up sharply over three days.
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    Izvor je ovaj niz: https://twitter.com/GuillaumeRozier/status/1472676543063375875 (prevod Google)
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    Post by boomer crook Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:40 am

    ne znam da li pratite ali u NBA je haos. i pored toga sto je 97% vakcinisano a oko 60% bustovano timovi su desetkovani.


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    Post by boomer crook Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:40 am

    ako je to omicron to je pokazatelj virulentnosti.


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