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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:49 pm

    meni je interesantan asimptomatski covid, npr 5 meseci posle druge vakcine

    da li ima isti efekat ili veći nego buster šot
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    Post by паће Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:01 pm

    Talason wrote:meni je interesantan asimptomatski covid, npr 5 meseci posle druge vakcine

    da li ima isti efekat ili veći nego buster šot

    Све очекујем да пита неко где има да се наручи.


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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:14 pm

    šta?
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    Post by паће Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:27 pm

    Добро, мало сам претерао, али очекујем да ће неко да помисли да би то била добра варијанта. Е сад да ли би добровољно кренуо у њу или се њоме тешио, то већ не знам.


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    Post by Del Cap Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:58 pm

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    Post by MNE Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:45 am

    rumbeando wrote:Objašnjeno je prilično ubedljivo zašto je efikasnost vakcine protiv delte u Izraelu slabija u pogledu zaražavanja i pojave simptoma, kačio sam već.

    Izraelski podaci su s najvećim razmakom od vakcinacije do oboljevanja, a antitela se gube dosta brzo: vreme poluraspada je 2-3 meseca. Posle nekih 5 meseci ona više ne obezbeđuju mukozni imunitet pa dolazi do zaražavanja i širenja virusa i kod vakcinisanih. Za onemogućavanje težih slučajeva organizam se ne oslanja samo na antitela, već i na B i T ćelije pa je ono i dalje obezbeđeno.
    zašto onda kod preležalih taj mukozni imunitet traje duže?
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:31 pm

    Slučajevi dugog kovida zbog alfa varijante kod vakcinisanih u Izraelu:

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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:50 pm



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    The new price for a Pfizer shot was €19.50 against €15.50 previously, according to portions of the contracts seen by the Financial Times.

    The price of a Moderna jab was $25.50 a dose, the contracts show, up from what people familiar with the matter said was about €19 ($22.60) in the first procurement deal but lower than a previously agreed $28.50 because the order had grown, according to one official close to the negotiations.
    https://www.ft.com/content/d415a01e-d065-44a9-bad4-f9235aa04c1a
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    Post by plachkica Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:10 pm

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/uae-rolls-out-sinopharm-covid-19-vaccine-children-aged-3-17-2021-08-02/


    UAE rolls out Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine to children aged 3-17

    DUBAI, Aug 2 (Reuters) - The United Arab Emirates will start providing China's Sinopharm (1099.HK) COVID-19 vaccine to children aged 3-17, the UAE government said on Twitter on Monday.

    It cited the health ministry as saying the decision comes after clinical trials and extensive evaluations, without providing any details. Authorities said in June the trial would monitor the immune response of 900 children. read more

    The Gulf Arab state, which has among the world's highest immunisation rates, was already providing the Pfizer-BioNTech (PFE.N) vaccine for children aged 12-15.

    The health ministry said on Sunday that 78.95% of the UAE population of roughly 9 million had received one vaccine dose while 70.57% had been fully vaccinated.

    The UAE, the region's tourism and trade hub, registered 1,519 new coronavirus infections on Sunday to take its total to 682,377 cases and 1,951 deaths. It does not provide a breakdown for each of its seven emirates.

    It led Phase III clinical trials of the vaccine produced by China's state-owned drugmaker Sinopharm and has started manufacturing it under a joint venture between Sinopharm and Abu Dhabi-based technology company Group 42.
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:22 pm



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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:25 pm

    VAKCINA - Page 8 3579118792 Vi'š kako odjednom nema više "pa neeee znam, pričao mi Ali da stavljaju živu unutra, kum Saydamovog pašenoga radi u kovid bolnici i tamo su im rekli da se ne vakcinišu nikako"...
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:25 pm

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:27 pm

    - ajde molim te
    - ok, evo ti 20 evra
    - neces moci u prevoz
    - neces moci iz zemlje
    - neces moci u kafic
    - nema mobil...wooooooosh
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    Post by plachkica Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:33 pm

    isključićemo ti fejsbuk! bi bilo dovoljno
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:42 pm

    Pa jbg, to je jedan od retkih fizicki mogucih pritisaka. To da policija proverava ko vakcinisan sedi u kaficu...od toga nema leba nigde.
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:24 pm

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    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/07/31/us/covid-delta-cases-deaths.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:36 pm

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    Post by rumbeando Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:48 am

    Third mRNA dose may boost antibody quantity, but not quality

      Among fully vaccinated people who never had COVID-19, getting a third dose of an mRNA vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna would likely increase levels of antibodies, but not antibodies that are better able to neutralize new virus variants, Rockefeller University researchers reported on Thursday on bioRxiv https://bit.ly/3fnbk6Y ahead of peer review. They note that in COVID-19 survivors, the immune system's antibodies evolve during the first year, becoming more potent and better able to resist new variants. In 32 volunteers who never had COVID-19, they found that antibodies induced by mRNA vaccines did evolve between the first and second shots. But five months later, vaccine-induced antibodies were "equivalent" to those seen after the second dose, with "little measurable improvement" in the antibodies' ability to neutralize a broad variety of new variants, said coauthor Michel Nussenzweig. Therefore, he said, giving those individuals a third dose of the same vaccine would likely result in higher levels of antibodies that remain less effective against variants. "At the moment, the vaccine remains protective against serious infection," Nussenzweig said. "Should we learn that efficacy is indeed waning for serious infection, which is not really the case to date," then a booster dose of "whatever is available" might become appropriate, he added. Should an updated vaccine become available that protects against specific variants, "then that would be the choice."
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    Post by MNE Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:35 am

    "COVID-19 survivors"



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    Post by kondo Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:07 am

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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:41 pm

    Za sada, nema treće doze ni za koga, čekaju se PrepOrUkE SzO (tj. počinje predizborna kampanja a vakcinacija postaje jako opasna tema u zemlji u kojoj je više od polovine stanovništva protiv života i zdravlja)

    Kada je reč o trećoj dozi vakcine, Kon je kazao da se ona daje osobama kojima je značajno oslabljen imunitet zbog prirode bolesti, odnosno, zbog transplantacije, hemodijalize, insulin zavisnog dijabetesa, kao i zbog malignoma i raznih bolesti koje obaraju imunitet.

    "Sasvim je jasno da su ti pacijenti, te osobe u najvećem riziku i za njih se preporučuje vakcina. Da li će to biti jednog proizvođača, drugog proizvođača, zavisi od toga koju je vakcinu prvu primio, prema tome, to nije striktno odlučeno", kazao je Kon.

    Dodao je da je preporučeno da treća doza bude vakcina koja je zasnovana na informacionoj RNK, ali, kako je objasnio, nema nijednog posebnog razloga za to.

    "Važnije od svega je da se te osobe zaštite. I dalje nema preporuke SZO. Moramo još malo sačekati i jasno je da se ubrzava taj proces preporuke treće doze i biće sasvim sigurno u narednom periodu. Da li će biti za mesec-dva, videćemo", rekao je Kon.

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    Post by Erős Pista Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:53 pm

    Ovo je strasno. Poslusko.


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    Post by ficfiric Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:55 pm

    Bas zbog izbora bice sve - i treca doza za one gaze babe na samrti i dahtanje za vrat u atubusima, stadionima, koncertima za antivaksere


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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:31 pm

    ja mislim da je potreban zakon koji dozvoljava vakcinisanima da eliminišu nevakcinisane

    verovatno ga neće doneti, ali ja ću da glasam isključivo za stranku koja podrži takav zakon

    neophodno je da budemo ravnopravni
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:36 pm

    ficfiric wrote:Bas zbog izbora bice sve - i treca doza za one gaze babe na samrti i dahtanje za vrat u atubusima, stadionima, koncertima za antivaksere

    Ma naravno. Samo da se zalaufa delta, bice sveeeee. Plus to, izbori.

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