Before they seize power and establish a world according to their doc
trines, totalitarian movements conjure up a lying world of consistency which
is more adequate to the needs of the human mind than reality itself; in
which, through sheer i magination, uprooted masses can feel at home and
are spared the never-ending shocks which real life and real experiences deal
to human beings and their expectations. The force possessed by totalitarian
propaganda-before the movements have the power to drop iron curtains
to prevent anyone's disturbing, by the slightest reality, the gruesome quiet
of an entirely i maginary world-lies in its ability to shut the masses off
from the real world. The only signs which the real world still offers to the
understanding of t he unintegrated and disintegrating masses-whom every
new stroke of ill luck makes more gullible-are, so to speak, its lacunae,
the questions it does not care to discuss publicly, or the rumors it does not
dare to contradict because they hit, although in an exaggerated and de
formed way, some sore spot.
From these sore spots the lies of totalitarian propaganda derive the ele
ment of truthfulness and real experience they need to bridge the gulf between
reality and fiction. Only terror could rely on mere fiction, and even the
terror-sustained lying fictions of totalitarian regimes have not yet become
entirely arbitrary, although they are usually cruder, more impudent, and, so
to speak, more original than those of the movements. ( It takes power, not
propaganda skill, to circulate a revised history of the Russian Revolution in
which no man by the name of Trotsky was ever commander-in-chief cf the
Red Army. ) The lies of the movements, on the other hand, arc much
subtler. They attach themselves to every aspect of social and political life
that is hidden from the public eye. They succeed best where the official
authorities have surrounded themselves with an atmosphere of secrecy. In
the eyes of the masses, they then acquire the reputation of superior "realism"
because they touch upon real conditions whose existence is being hidden.
Revelations of scandals in high society, of corruption of politicians, every
thing that belongs to yellow journalism, becomes in their hands a weapon
of more than sensational importance.
The most efficient fiction of Nazi propaganda was the story of a Jewish
world conspiracy. Concentration on antisemitic propaganda had been a
common device of demagogues ever since the end of the nineteenth century,
and was widespread in the Germany and Austria of the twenties. The more
consistently a discussion of the Jewish question was avoided by all parties
and organs of public opinion, the more convinced the mob became that
Jews were the true representatives of the powers that be, and that the Jew
ish issue was the symbol for the hypocrisy and dishonesty of the whole
system.
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Da vidimo šta kaže Umna Čifutkinja:
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Pa onda horog:
The effectiveness of this kind of propaganda demonstrates one of the chief
characteristics of modern masses. They do not believe in anything visible,
in the reality of their own experience ; they do not trust their eyes and ears
but only their imaginations, which may be caught by anything that is at once
universal and consistent in itself. What convinces masses are not facts, and
not even invented facts, but only the consistency of the system of which
they are presumably part. Repetition, somewhat overrated in importance be
cause of the common belief in the masses' inferior capacity to grasp and re
member, is important only because it convinces them of consistency in time.
What the masses refuse to recognize is the fortuitousness that pervades
reality. They are predisposed to all ideologies because they explain facts as
mere examples of laws and eliminate coincidences by inventing an all
embracing omnipotence which is supposed to be at the root of every acci
dent. Totalitarian propaganda thrives on this escape from reality into fiction,
from coincidence into consistency.
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Nešto mi ne da da prekopiram i ostatak pasusa, jebi ga.
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Nije ovaj?Daï Djakman Faré wrote:sorry to bust your bubble i da ti odlazem radovanje za neku iducu priliku, ali nikola je ipak 1 fizicar
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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E, ovako piše pravi filozof. Zagrada, pa u njoj 3 rečenice. Ko napiše članak/rad pitko i jasno, da mu umre keva.Летећи Полип wrote:Da vidimo šta kaže Umna Čifutkinja:
Before they seize power and establish a world according to their doc
trines, totalitarian movements conjure up a lying world of consistency which
is more adequate to the needs of the human mind than reality itself; in
which, through sheer i magination, uprooted masses can feel at home and
are spared the never-ending shocks which real life and real experiences deal
to human beings and their expectations. The force possessed by totalitarian
propaganda-before the movements have the power to drop iron curtains
to prevent anyone's disturbing, by the slightest reality, the gruesome quiet
of an entirely i maginary world-lies in its ability to shut the masses off
from the real world. The only signs which the real world still offers to the
understanding of t he unintegrated and disintegrating masses-whom every
new stroke of ill luck makes more gullible-are, so to speak, its lacunae,
the questions it does not care to discuss publicly, or the rumors it does not
dare to contradict because they hit, although in an exaggerated and de
formed way, some sore spot.
From these sore spots the lies of totalitarian propaganda derive the ele
ment of truthfulness and real experience they need to bridge the gulf between
reality and fiction. Only terror could rely on mere fiction, and even the
terror-sustained lying fictions of totalitarian regimes have not yet become
entirely arbitrary, although they are usually cruder, more impudent, and, so
to speak, more original than those of the movements. ( It takes power, not
propaganda skill, to circulate a revised history of the Russian Revolution in
which no man by the name of Trotsky was ever commander-in-chief cf the
Red Army. ) The lies of the movements, on the other hand, arc much
subtler. They attach themselves to every aspect of social and political life
that is hidden from the public eye. They succeed best where the official
authorities have surrounded themselves with an atmosphere of secrecy. In
the eyes of the masses, they then acquire the reputation of superior "realism"
because they touch upon real conditions whose existence is being hidden.
Revelations of scandals in high society, of corruption of politicians, every
thing that belongs to yellow journalism, becomes in their hands a weapon
of more than sensational importance.
The most efficient fiction of Nazi propaganda was the story of a Jewish
world conspiracy. Concentration on antisemitic propaganda had been a
common device of demagogues ever since the end of the nineteenth century,
and was widespread in the Germany and Austria of the twenties. The more
consistently a discussion of the Jewish question was avoided by all parties
and organs of public opinion, the more convinced the mob became that
Jews were the true representatives of the powers that be, and that the Jew
ish issue was the symbol for the hypocrisy and dishonesty of the whole
system.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Nemoj, ne treba.Летећи Полип wrote:Nešto mi ne da da prekopiram i ostatak pasusa, jebi ga.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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e jeste to je taj. sorry bio sam ubedjen da je fizicar.Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Nije ovaj?Daï Djakman Faré wrote:sorry to bust your bubble i da ti odlazem radovanje za neku iducu priliku, ali nikola je ipak 1 fizicar
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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Tekst govori kako se diskreditirala i podrivala znanost, koji su uzroci tome, međutim, došlo je i do paralelnih procesa, znači 'autohtone' teorije koje nemaju veze s interesima ali su prozvod iste metodologije, maltene tlo je plodno, one stihijski nikle.Летећи Полип wrote:Sve je to super, samo gde je ta veza između tzv desnih teorija zavere i krupnog kapitala? Konkretno smo je utvrdili u vezi duvanske i industrije fosilnih goriva, što i nije nešto naročito teško. Ko finansira teoriju o globalnom kabalu pedofila, o Srbima narodu najstarijem, kemtrejlsima i slično? Koji su tu neoliberalni interesi u pitanju?
Mislim, krenuli smo od kulina bana, dotakli se svega živog, osim onoga što smo na početku deklarisali kao temu. Loš je tekst, jer očajnički pokušava da ugura suparnički rogue narativ u sistemsku priču. A to ne ide jebi ga.
Drugim rečima, jednom kada se antinaučna bašta podrobno zalije, ne izviru samo planirani plodovi: antivakcionalni pokret, teorija zavere o 5G mreži i HAARP-u su najverovatnije „autentične“, samoorganizovane pojave, ali matrica njihovog nastanka i širenja u stopu prati antinaučna, desničarska uputstva koja je napisala duvanska, a do savršenstva razvila naftna industrija. Čak i onda kada ne povuku same obarač, one su pripremile i napunile pištolj, dale motiv i uperile prstom: eno ih krivci, države, regulacija, UN, oni su ti koji napadaju vaše slobode.
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Razumem, ali HAARP, 5G, Antivax teorije zavere u svojoj suštini nisu uperene protiv nauke, odnosno neke naučne istine. One su uperene protiv zlonamernih elita koje koriste visoku tehnologiju da bi dominirale nad stanovništvom. To je nešto sasvim drugo.
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Sve si pogresio. Svi ti protesti su zapravo protesti protiv nauke. Ne postoji ni jedan naucnik, publikovani naucnik, koji ce da kaze da su antivakseri u pravu ili da je 5G stetan.
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Kada kažeš da je 5G štetan, ti ne negiraš nauku, nego savesnu upotrebu nauke. Isto važi i za vakcine. Dakle, ne negiraju se naučne činjenice, već benevolentnost elita.
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izvršili akviziciju i zadnjih nedelja imam predavanja 5G svaki drugi dan, iako je verovatnoća da ću se stvarno zanimati tom temom skoro nula
kažu kina do kraja ove godine planira da ima 1.300.000 antena, za sada su negde između 600 i 700 hiljada
voziš pustinjom, noć, ispred tebe se pale svetla, iza tebe se gase, saobraćajne nesreće će biti vest, ako se dese, sve živo pametno itd itd
a mi snimamo seriju o mileševiću i čedi
kažu kina do kraja ove godine planira da ima 1.300.000 antena, za sada su negde između 600 i 700 hiljada
voziš pustinjom, noć, ispred tebe se pale svetla, iza tebe se gase, saobraćajne nesreće će biti vest, ako se dese, sve živo pametno itd itd
a mi snimamo seriju o mileševiću i čedi
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Pa to. Evropa diže bazne stanice u vazduh “jer je 5G štetan, jer elite”, a Kina punom parom ulaže u 5G infrastrukturu.
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“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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treba ukinuti automobile pa neće biti saobraćajnih nesreća
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Talason wrote:ne treba
Возаче...
Јер, ако 30% несрећа узрокују пијани возачи, онда 70% узрокују трезни.
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Talason wrote:ne treba
naravno, treba stalno uvećavati proizvodnju i popuniti svaki slobodni kvadratni metar prostora njima. sve ostalo je protiv progresa i modernosti i tehnologije!
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ni to ne treba
ja ne koristim auto, osim kada ne moram, ne vidim u čemu je tu problem
ja ne koristim auto, osim kada ne moram, ne vidim u čemu je tu problem
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naravno, a ti trošiš struju i još koješta da bi bio ovde, a ne moraš
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Jesmo cancelovali AOC, jel neko popratio?
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Bleeding Blitva wrote:Jesmo cancelovali AOC, jel neko popratio?
It kind of fucks itself to us live...
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Ima već diskusija dole na temi, kad već kažeš da ne vidš šta je problem. Automobili su fundamentalno promenili strukturu gradova i prostor-vreme, ne može prosto da se kaže nemoj da koristiš ako nećeš jer utiče i na ne-vozače, a i to što nekad moraš da koristiš je problem sam po sebi
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ne znam šta to znači dole na temi, ali automobili nisu promenili ništa
ja imam jedan u garaži u selu, kako sam ga ostavio pre 5 godina, tako stoji, bar da je okrečio
ja imam jedan u garaži u selu, kako sam ga ostavio pre 5 godina, tako stoji, bar da je okrečio
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kako nisu? Tehnološki izumi menjaju društvo na način koji primorava ljude da ih koriste ili da, ako ih ne koriste, trpe posledice njihovog uticaja.
Prostor predviđen za automobile (putevi, parking, pumpe, garaže) zauzima ogroman prostor koji može da se koristi za nešto drugo.
Zagađenje od proizvodnje svega u vezi njih. Nafta, guma, čelik, aluminijum, staklo, boje, plastika, i sad elementi za baterije.
Ograničavanje slobode kretanja. Ne možeš više da ideš kuda hoćeš, ketanjem ti upravljaju rute i propisi za motorizovani transport Od pojave motorizovanog transporta, struktura gradova se promenila tako da većina stanovništva više ne može da ide peške na posao, u školu, kupovinu ili na rekreaciju, njihov transport sada mora biti automobilski, ili moraju da koriste javni prevoz koji je opet pod uticajem kola.
Prostor predviđen za automobile (putevi, parking, pumpe, garaže) zauzima ogroman prostor koji može da se koristi za nešto drugo.
Zagađenje od proizvodnje svega u vezi njih. Nafta, guma, čelik, aluminijum, staklo, boje, plastika, i sad elementi za baterije.
Ograničavanje slobode kretanja. Ne možeš više da ideš kuda hoćeš, ketanjem ti upravljaju rute i propisi za motorizovani transport Od pojave motorizovanog transporta, struktura gradova se promenila tako da većina stanovništva više ne može da ide peške na posao, u školu, kupovinu ili na rekreaciju, njihov transport sada mora biti automobilski, ili moraju da koriste javni prevoz koji je opet pod uticajem kola.