Desnicarski topik

Da imamo negde da postujemo desnicarske stvari, a da nije onaj tor koji nam je Sima namenio, i koji moze da okaci macku o rep.

Šta je to što nudi desnica, a što je dobro za malog čoveka koji nema 8 fabrika i 3 banke?

šta je ovo, safe space za desničare? 

Pržun wrote:Da imamo negde da postujemo desnicarske stvari, a da nije onaj tor koji nam je Sima namenio, i koji moze da okaci macku o rep.

Gledao sam poslednjih dana ovog lika sto stalno kacis.. Moram reci da mi se veoma ne dopada. Vickast je i malo kao abrasive, al nije cela poenta suknuti ga politickoj korektnosti, govori gluposti pre svega oko feministickih pitanja. 

Dixi. Salvavi. Kurac. Palac. 

Lev Abalkin wrote:Šta je to što nudi desnica, a što je dobro za malog čoveka koji nema 8 fabrika i 3 banke?

slobodu.

Photino Bird wrote:šta je ovo, safe space za desničare? 

zastitnik gotama wrote:

Pržun wrote:Da imamo negde da postujemo desnicarske stvari, a da nije onaj tor koji nam je Sima namenio, i koji moze da okaci macku o rep.

Gledao sam poslednjih dana ovog lika sto stalno kacis.. Moram reci da mi se veoma ne dopada. Vickast je i malo kao abrasive, al nije cela poenta suknuti ga politickoj korektnosti, govori gluposti pre svega oko feministickih pitanja. 

Dixi. Salvavi. Kurac. Palac. 

Lev Abalkin wrote:Šta je to što nudi desnica, a što je dobro za malog čoveka koji nema 8 fabrika i 3 banke?

slobodu.

I to neograničenu, pod uslovom da si vlasnik 8 fabrika i 3 banke.


A zasmejao me Mekinis na početku kad repuje, pa kao "who is a fucking... horrible nerd".

Posle "topika za prave levicare", Przun otvara i desnicarski topik. Ocekujem da narednih dana ugledam i "topik za prave liberale".

Samo za Burunđane ništa.
Najteže je biti Burunđanin u Burundiju.

Tiranija manjina

Radagast wrote:Posle "topika za prave levicare", Przun otvara i desnicarski topik. Ocekujem da narednih dana ugledam i "topik za prave liberale".

Pa zasto da ne. 



Jelena Milic, Biljana Srbljanovic, Nenad Mihailovic, Teofil Pancic, Amanda Markot...

Pržun wrote:

Radagast wrote:Posle "topika za prave levicare", Przun otvara i desnicarski topik. Ocekujem da narednih dana ugledam i "topik za prave liberale".

Pa zasto da ne. 



Jelena Milic, Biljana Srbljanovic, Nenad Mihailovic, Teofil Pancic, Amanda Markot...

to su neoliberali

I btw, desnica se ne bavi "slobodom" Desnica se bavi identitetima (pa u okviru desnice i njeno "levo krilo" - neoliberali), liberali se bave slobodom, a levica materijalnom raspodelom. Drugim recima, desnica se bavi glupostima.

Aha, ok.

Ma sloboda je essentially contested concept, svako može da tvrdi (i zapravo i tvrdi) da se bori za slobodu, i liberali i libertarijanci i anarhisti i levica svih vrsta, i desničari raznih vrsta. Ne vredi ništa dok se ne objasni šta se pod slobodom razumeva - za koga je, od čega je, i za šta.

Pa jesi li sad siguran?

No Country wrote:

Lev Abalkin wrote:Šta je to što nudi desnica, a što je dobro za malog čoveka koji nema 8 fabrika i 3 banke?

Непријатеља. Што не знам колико је добро (зезам се, знам), али је насушно.

Tako je. Lepo je Berni objasnio u onom videu kad su ga upitali zasto ljudi glasaju za republikance, iako oni brane interese malecne manjine stanovnistva (od 26:20, a o tom aspektu od 37').

Ovo za slobodu mi je tragikomično. Nije po pitanju slobode ni levica daleko doguralo, ali ovde je sloboda obična roba, koliko slobode možeš sebi da priuštiš, toliko i dobiješ, nema mnogo gratis.

Paul Krugman Illustrates The Damaged Political Psyches Of The Left

The election damaged the political psyche of liberals in ways that it will probably take a while for us to understand.

a ne, krugman i slicni (markote npr) su bili "damaged" daleko pre izbora, sto se lepo videlo u prajmarijima. oni su jos tada mislili da moze sve na silu. ne moze, jbg.

iskreno, ja sam očekivao da će u podnaslovu stajati "libtardi stop!" a ne ovo sanitarizovano "liberali"

disappointed!

ne, naravno. centar, pobogu.

паће wrote:Шта, либерали су левица?

Да сам јуче умро...

Očito zavisi odakle gledaš.

William Murderface wrote:Ma sloboda je essentially contested concept, svako može da tvrdi (i zapravo i tvrdi) da se bori za slobodu, i liberali i libertarijanci i anarhisti i levica svih vrsta, i desničari raznih vrsta. Ne vredi ništa dok se ne objasni šta se pod slobodom razumeva - za koga je, od čega je, i za šta.

Upravo. Pričati uopšteno o levici i desnici nema puno smisla.

Da se podsetimo.

MEANINGLESS WORDS. In certain kinds of writing, particularly in art criticism and literary criticism, it is normal to come across long passages which are almost completely lacking in meaning(2). Words like romantic, plastic, values, human, dead, sentimental, natural, vitality, as used in art criticism, are strictly meaningless, in the sense that they not only do not point to any discoverable object, but are hardly ever expected to do so by the reader. When one critic writes, ‘The outstanding feature of Mr. X's work is its living quality’, while another writes, ‘The immediately striking thing about Mr. X's work is its peculiar deadness’, the reader accepts this as a simple difference opinion. If words like black and white were involved, instead of the jargon words dead and living, he would see at once that language was being used in an improper way. Many political words are similarly abused. The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’. The words democracy, socialism, freedom, patriotic, realistic, justice have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using that word if it were tied down to any one meaning. Words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. That is, the person who uses them has his own private definition, but allows his hearer to think he means something quite different. Statements like Marshal Petain was a true patriot, The Soviet press is the freest in the world, The Catholic Church is opposed to persecution, are almost always made with intent to deceive. Other words used in variable meanings, in most cases more or less dishonestly, are: class, totalitarian, science, progressive, reactionary, bourgeois, equality.