https://apnews.com/article/beijing-immunizations-chengdu-coronavirus-pandemic-china-675bcb6b5710c7329823148ffbff6ef9Official: Chinese vaccines’ effectiveness low
In a rare admission of the weakness of Chinese coronavirus vaccines, the country’s top disease control official says their effectiveness is low and the government is considering mixing them to give them a boost.
Chinese vaccines “don’t have very high protection rates,” said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu.
Beijing has distributed hundreds of millions of doses in other countries while also trying to promote doubt about the effectiveness of Western vaccines.
“It’s now under formal consideration whether we should use different vaccines from different technical lines for the immunization process,” Gao said.
The effectiveness rate of a coronavirus vaccine from Sinovac, a Chinese developer, at preventing symptomatic infections has been found to be as low as 50.4% by researchers in Brazil. By comparison, the vaccine made by Pfizer has been found to be 97% effective.
Beijing has yet to approve any foreign vaccines for use in China, where the coronavirus emerged in late 2019.
Gao gave no details of possible changes in strategy but mentioned mRNA, a previously experimental technique used by Western vaccine developers while China’s drug makers used traditional technology.
“Everyone should consider the benefits mRNA vaccines can bring for humanity,” Gao said. “We must follow it carefully and not ignore it just because we already have several types of vaccines already.”
Gao previously raised questions about the safety of mRNA vaccines. He was quoted by the official Xinhua News Agency as saying in December he couldn’t rule out negative side effects because they were being used for the first time on healthy people.
Chinese state media and popular health and science blogs also have questioned the safety and effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine, which uses mRNA.
As of April 2, some 34 million people have received both of the two doses required by Chinese vaccines and about 65 million received one, according to Gao.
Experts say mixing vaccines, or sequential immunization, might boost effectiveness rates. Trials around the world are looking at mixing of vaccines or giving a booster shot after a longer time period. Researchers in Britain are studying a possible combination of Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines.
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pa dobro sinofarm je svakako bio po sistemu čim ne škodi znači da koristi
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jasno je da je u rna vakcinama buducnost. ulozio se veliki novac da se isprobaju sve opcije, nista nije ni blizu ove nove tehnologije i sigurno ce se to odraziti na produkciju vakcina u buducnosti. samo je pitanje da li je buducnost 2-3 godine od sada, ili 10-15.
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Like everything in this pandemic the science around the rare clotting disorder seen in AstraZeneca vaccinees has moved at an incredible pace. As the link has become clear, hints for a cause have emerged
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Story with @GretchenVogel1 is here, thread to come:https://t.co/lobgJ3cIdc
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Britain will achieve Covid ‘herd immunity’ on Monday, according to a UCL model
The UK is expected to pass the threshold for herd immunity by Monday, according to experts at University College London.
Dynamic modelling suggests that the number of people who are protected against Covid-19, either because they are naturally immune or have received a vaccine, will hit 73.4 per cent on April 12.
Figures published by the Office for National Statistics last week - based on antibody testing - show that around 54 per cent had antibodies by March 14.
Since then, a further 7.1 million people have received a first jab, while nearly 100,000 more people have tested positive for Covid-19.
In addition to this around 10 per cent of the population is naturally immune, either through exposure to other coronaviruses or because they have T-cells, which would not be picked up in antibody testing.
Professor Karl Friston, from UCL, said: “The herd immunity estimates surprised me. However, they are unremarkable when one considers that over 50 per cent of adults have been vaccinated, around 42 per cent of people have now been exposed to the virus and about 10 per cent have pre-existing immunity.
“When factoring in the estimated efficacy of vaccination in terms of sterilising immunity, this – according to the model – means about 70 per cent of the population are immune.
“Based upon contact rates at the beginning of the pandemic and estimated transmission risk, this is nearly at the herd immunity threshold.”
The data, seen exclusively by the Daily Telegraph, is in stark contrast to modelling published earlier this week by Imperial College London, which suggested only 34 per cent of the population was immune by the end of March.
UCL’s work is different to other models because it reacts to real-time deaths, infections, vaccinations, vaccine effectiveness data and Google mobility trends with inform transmission trends, the paper reported.
The university also predicted that the threshold level needed for herd immunity will drop dramatically in the next couple of months with the UK needing just 40 per cent protection by the middle of the summer to be safe.
The study comes just over a week after lockdown restrictions were eased to allow people from 6 households to mix outside.
On Monday they will be eased further, with non-essential shops, gyms and leisure centres reopening for the first time in months.
Pubs and restaurants will also be able to serve meals outdoors.
Latest figures show 31.7 million people have been vaccinated, with 5,683,509 receiving a second jab.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/britain-herd-immunity-coronavirus-ucl-b928417.html
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Talason wrote:meni se čini prema onom što sam čitao poslednjih nedelju dve, da bi bio bolji kombo sputnjik u fulu + fajzer
To cu ja pokusati da izvedem
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rumbeando wrote:https://apnews.com/article/beijing-immunizations-chengdu-coronavirus-pandemic-china-675bcb6b5710c7329823148ffbff6ef9Official: Chinese vaccines’ effectiveness low
In a rare admission of the weakness of Chinese coronavirus vaccines, the country’s top disease control official says their effectiveness is low and the government is considering mixing them to give them a boost.
Chinese vaccines “don’t have very high protection rates,” said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu.
Beijing has distributed hundreds of millions of doses in other countries while also trying to promote doubt about the effectiveness of Western vaccines.
“It’s now under formal consideration whether we should use different vaccines from different technical lines for the immunization process,” Gao said.
The effectiveness rate of a coronavirus vaccine from Sinovac, a Chinese developer, at preventing symptomatic infections has been found to be as low as 50.4% by researchers in Brazil. By comparison, the vaccine made by Pfizer has been found to be 97% effective.
Beijing has yet to approve any foreign vaccines for use in China, where the coronavirus emerged in late 2019.
Gao gave no details of possible changes in strategy but mentioned mRNA, a previously experimental technique used by Western vaccine developers while China’s drug makers used traditional technology.
“Everyone should consider the benefits mRNA vaccines can bring for humanity,” Gao said. “We must follow it carefully and not ignore it just because we already have several types of vaccines already.”
Gao previously raised questions about the safety of mRNA vaccines. He was quoted by the official Xinhua News Agency as saying in December he couldn’t rule out negative side effects because they were being used for the first time on healthy people.
Chinese state media and popular health and science blogs also have questioned the safety and effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine, which uses mRNA.
As of April 2, some 34 million people have received both of the two doses required by Chinese vaccines and about 65 million received one, according to Gao.
Experts say mixing vaccines, or sequential immunization, might boost effectiveness rates. Trials around the world are looking at mixing of vaccines or giving a booster shot after a longer time period. Researchers in Britain are studying a possible combination of Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines.
Pa da, prva pomoc, ok, now for the real thing
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AZ i Sputnjik danas u DZ u bloku 44.
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Jbt pola ljudi hoće samo kinesku a nema. Biće Kosovo, što bi rekla moja baba.
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Mislim da u Pančevu daju kinesku vakcinu bez zakazivanja, a juce su bile navodno fajzer i az
Сутра, у недељу, 11. априла од 8 до 15 часова спровешће се имунизација становништва без заказивања за грађане Панчева вакцинама “фајзер” и “астра зенека”, Дом здравља Панчево - вакцинални пункт “Хигија” Милоша Обреновића број 4.
#vakcinacija #pančevo #bezzakazivanja
Сутра, у недељу, 11. априла од 8 до 15 часова спровешће се имунизација становништва без заказивања за грађане Панчева вакцинама “фајзер” и “астра зенека”, Дом здравља Панчево - вакцинални пункт “Хигија” Милоша Обреновића број 4.
#vakcinacija #pančevo #bezzakazivanja
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Jedini proleter Burundija
Pristalica krvne osvete
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Jel ti i dalje čekaš fajzer, mislim, ne bi uzimao sputnjik ili az?
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but not getting better together
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Uzimam Sputnjik.
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Nema alkohola dve nedelje
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Ali zato posle 2 nedelje...
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onda revakcina pa ne može ponovo
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Dve nedelje posle vakcine nema alkohola? Ja se tekilisao pet dana ppsle fajzera, reko 24h nema alkohola.
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nije baš logično da uzimaš nešto što ti gradi imunitet u kombinaciji sa nečim što ga razgrađuje
ja nemam pojma koliko se zvanično ne pije, ja nisam oko 3 meseca ukupno, ne brojim baš, pa da znam sigurno
ja nemam pojma koliko se zvanično ne pije, ja nisam oko 3 meseca ukupno, ne brojim baš, pa da znam sigurno
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Мислим да је то као са антибиотицима - не ваља алкохол уз антибиотике, потире дејство антибиотика и дупло шкоди јетри.
Што се тиче ових вакцина, заиста се треба стрпети тих 4 седмице. Ако баш мора, онда макар нека прође првих 5 дана по инјекцији.
Што се тиче ових вакцина, заиста се треба стрпети тих 4 седмице. Ако баш мора, онда макар нека прође првих 5 дана по инјекцији.
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oh that reminds me - ja sam nevidjena ******. reko sam sebi da cu da se odvalim posle revakcinacije i nikad se nisam odvalio. a stvarno sam zeleo kada sam se vakcinisao prvo vece ! i reko ajde samo da sacekam tu revakcinu, pa posle jos da sacekam 10 dana posle revakcine i proslo me. verovatno odvaljivanje kao takvo nije nesto sto ja praktikujemDambo wrote:Dve nedelje posle vakcine nema alkohola? Ja se tekilisao pet dana ppsle fajzera, reko 24h nema alkohola.
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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Ja sam sljokao odma posle vakcine i sta mi hvali, momcina!
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A, pa moraš to revidirat. Kako onda pročišćuješ dušu.Daï Djakman Faré wrote:verovatno odvaljivanje kao takvo nije nesto sto ja praktikujemDambo wrote:Dve nedelje posle vakcine nema alkohola? Ja se tekilisao pet dana ppsle fajzera, reko 24h nema alkohola.
I hajde ti i Eros da objasnite negdje zašto Milan Mladenović nije kul. Obećali ste, pa ništa.
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