Virus
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- Post n°951
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Ne, najgore je kad od tome ne odlučuju čak ni lekari, nego neko drugi, ili naprosto nešto drugo (nejednakost).
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- Post n°952
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Talason wrote:neko će sve da nas zatvori, kovid ili vlada
mnogo je gore da nas zatvori kovid, a to je put koji smo izabrali
najgore je ako dođe do situacije da lekari biraju koga će da spasu, a koga da ostave da umre
prema svemu što vidim, mi hrlimo ka toj situaciji
crni petak wtf
najcrnji petak
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- Post n°953
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Mi se zezasmo kad smo pre par godina otvorili teu o kataklizmi kad evo ti sad.
Ja je cekam i sve mi se cini da je vrlo moguce katastrofalno masovno oboljevanje u narednih par godina, svud. Trenutno imamo crvenu zonu - na Žarkovu gde su moj zet, njegova sestra muž i njihovo dete svi sa koronom, transportujemo im hranu. Zelena zona žena ćerka unuka i ja. U pripravnosti je soba za izolaciju u potkrovlju. U firmi ima vec jedan broj ali jos ne na nivou iz julskog
Ja je cekam i sve mi se cini da je vrlo moguce katastrofalno masovno oboljevanje u narednih par godina, svud. Trenutno imamo crvenu zonu - na Žarkovu gde su moj zet, njegova sestra muž i njihovo dete svi sa koronom, transportujemo im hranu. Zelena zona žena ćerka unuka i ja. U pripravnosti je soba za izolaciju u potkrovlju. U firmi ima vec jedan broj ali jos ne na nivou iz julskog
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- Post n°954
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Erős Pista wrote:Ne, najgore je kad od tome ne odlučuju čak ni lekari, nego neko drugi, ili naprosto nešto drugo (nejednakost).
pa to je neizbezno. sigurno nece nekoga od "nase" dece, baka i deka da osatve da umre a da mu nisu prethodno maksimalno pomogli.
Nije im bio dovoljan primer Svedske, koja i pored budalesanja nece imati nikakav manji pad Dzi Di Pija od Norveske ili Danske. Ali pored svega toga, mi nemamo drzavu koja hoce, ili cak moze, da sprovodi bilo kakve fine-tuned mere, tipa nije pocijski cas, ali ne smeju da se mesaju ljudi koji nisu clanovi jednog domacinstva.
A mi smo dosli do toga da je policijski cas i full lockdown jedino resenje, ne da se izbegne katastrofa - za to je prekasno - nego potpuni potop. Ja da sam lekar - dao bih otkaz momentalno. Ce se nadju pare, ali zivot, ili cak "samo" zivci, to nema niko da nadoknadi.
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- Post n°955
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CNN o Irinejevoj smrti:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/20/europe/serbian-orthodox-church-patriarch-irinej-dies-covid-19-intl/index.htmlChurch patriarch dies from Covid-19 after leading open-casket funeral of bishop killed by the virus
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- Post n°957
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"Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."
Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
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- Post n°958
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ВЛАДИКА ДАВИД Служио опело на сахрани Иринеја, хитно хоспитализован због короне!
Епископ крушевачки Давид служио је у недељу опело и литургију на сахрани патријарха Иринеја, а јавност је погодила чињеница да је он вечерас хоспитализован у болници Драгиша Мишовић због коронавируса.
https://srbin.info/pocetna/aktuelno/vladika-david-sluzio-opelo-na-sahrani-irineja-hitno-hospitalizovan-zbog-korone/
Епископ крушевачки Давид служио је у недељу опело и литургију на сахрани патријарха Иринеја, а јавност је погодила чињеница да је он вечерас хоспитализован у болници Драгиша Мишовић због коронавируса.
https://srbin.info/pocetna/aktuelno/vladika-david-sluzio-opelo-na-sahrani-irineja-hitno-hospitalizovan-zbog-korone/
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- Post n°959
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Erős Pista wrote:
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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- Post n°960
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E Mor Thokoly, ja to pričam kome treba da pričam već 3 nedelje a odgovor koji dobijam je “ovaj posao je sve što imam”. A nije da nema Opciju B ako napusti posao.Mór Thököly wrote:A mi smo dosli do toga da je policijski cas i full lockdown jedino resenje, ne da se izbegne katastrofa - za to je prekasno - nego potpuni potop. Ja da sam lekar - dao bih otkaz momentalno. Ce se nadju pare, ali zivot, ili cak "samo" zivci, to nema niko da nadoknadi.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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- Post n°961
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Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:E Mor Thokoly, ja to pričam kome treba da pričam već 3 nedelje a odgovor koji dobijam je “ovaj posao je sve što imam”. A nije da nema Opciju B ako napusti posao.Mór Thököly wrote:A mi smo dosli do toga da je policijski cas i full lockdown jedino resenje, ne da se izbegne katastrofa - za to je prekasno - nego potpuni potop. Ja da sam lekar - dao bih otkaz momentalno. Ce se nadju pare, ali zivot, ili cak "samo" zivci, to nema niko da nadoknadi.
Nije nemacki tolko tezak majku mu, a posla ce biti ihaaa. Spasiti zivu glavu ili dugorocno zdravlje je prioritet.
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- Post n°962
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A tu je uvek i priv praksa. A na kraju krajeva, kad sve prodje, ostace toliko lekara da nece moci bas da biraju.
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- Post n°963
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pa on je još u aprilu bio u bolnci zbog korone?plachkica wrote:ВЛАДИКА ДАВИД Служио опело на сахрани Иринеја, хитно хоспитализован због короне!
Епископ крушевачки Давид служио је у недељу опело и литургију на сахрани патријарха Иринеја, а јавност је погодила чињеница да је он вечерас хоспитализован у болници Драгиша Мишовић због коронавируса.
https://srbin.info/pocetna/aktuelno/vladika-david-sluzio-opelo-na-sahrani-irineja-hitno-hospitalizovan-zbog-korone/
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- Post n°964
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Како те чињенице добро нишане у јавност, никад не чујемо да промаше.
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И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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- Post n°965
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teško da mu je imunitet aktivan nakon 7 mjeseci
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- Post n°967
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Ima posao, ima papire. Samo treba avionska karta da se kupi i - ne zajebavam se - “da mi odobre neplaćeno godinu dana, da imam gde da se vratim, za svaki slučaj”. A neplaćeno sada naravno ne odobravaju.Mór Thököly wrote:Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:
E Mor Thokoly, ja to pričam kome treba da pričam već 3 nedelje a odgovor koji dobijam je “ovaj posao je sve što imam”. A nije da nema Opciju B ako napusti posao.
Nije nemacki tolko tezak majku mu, a posla ce biti ihaaa. Spasiti zivu glavu ili dugorocno zdravlje je prioritet.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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- Post n°968
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А још кад би могли да му зајемче да ће фирма да постоји догодине, ихај.
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cousin for roasting the rakija
И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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- Post n°969
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Razne poslovice mi padaju na pamet u kojima su subjekti pripitomljene životinje.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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- Post n°971
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Жив човек греши, мртав магарац никад?
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cousin for roasting the rakija
И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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- Post n°972
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kod mm na poslu padaju kao muve a oni i dalje sede zajedno u sobi,jedu zajedno..
kod mene u okolini nema slucajeva,ja nemam kontakte osim napolju u sumi a sad sam i zajednicka putovanja kolima proredila za koji vikenda al sta vredi kad mm dodje iz zajednicke sobe gde njih 6 sedi,brblja i pljuje po ceo dan..plus uskoro ce krenuti busom na posao...on nam je najkriticniji i najvise izlazi medju ljude..
kod mene u okolini nema slucajeva,ja nemam kontakte osim napolju u sumi a sad sam i zajednicka putovanja kolima proredila za koji vikenda al sta vredi kad mm dodje iz zajednicke sobe gde njih 6 sedi,brblja i pljuje po ceo dan..plus uskoro ce krenuti busom na posao...on nam je najkriticniji i najvise izlazi medju ljude..
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- Post n°973
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plachkica wrote:ВЛАДИКА ДАВИД Служио опело на сахрани Иринеја, хитно хоспитализован због короне!
https://nova.rs/vesti/drustvo/sluzio-opelo-na-sahrani-irineja-sad-u-bolnici-zbog-korone/kako stvari stoje, on je liturgiju služio, iako je bio pozitivan na koronavirus
Za robiju.
Kirko Skaddeng wrote:pa on je još u aprilu bio u bolnci zbog korone?
I navodno je tad utvrđeno da je negativan.
https://nova.rs/vesti/drustvo/sluzio-opelo-na-sahrani-irineja-sad-u-bolnici-zbog-korone/Episkop David je i u aprilu dovođen u sumnju da je pozitivan na koronavirus, međutim tada je ipak bio negativan, navode izvori Nova.rs.
InvisibleLight tamo:
Hermetico wrote:Kako su ga hospitalizovali kad su bolnice pune?
i to u elitnu dragisa misovic, koju izgradio tito 48.
sto ne ide na ostrog, tamo se dogadjaju cuda i ozdravljanja preko noci vernicima
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- Post n°974
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Izašli rezultati za oksfordsku vakcinu, prosečna efikasnost 70%, ali je najefikasnija ako se prvo daje pola pa cela doza, tad je efikasna 90%.
https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2020/azd1222hlr.htmlAZD1222 vaccine met primary efficacy endpoint in preventing COVID-19
23 November 2020 07:00 GMT
Two different dosing regimens demonstrated efficacy with one showing a better profile
No hospitalisations or severe cases of COVID-19 in participants treated with AZD1222
Positive high-level results from an interim analysis of clinical trials of AZD1222 in the UK and Brazil showed the vaccine was highly effective in preventing COVID-19, the primary endpoint, and no hospitalisations or severe cases of the disease were reported in participants receiving the vaccine. There were a total of 131 COVID-19 cases in the interim analysis.
One dosing regimen (n=2,741) showed vaccine efficacy of 90% when AZD1222 was given as a half dose, followed by a full dose at least one month apart, and another dosing regimen (n=8,895) showed 62% efficacy when given as two full doses at least one month apart. The combined analysis from both dosing regimens (n=11,636) resulted in an average efficacy of 70%. All results were statistically significant (p<=0.0001). More data will continue to accumulate and additional analysis will be conducted, refining the efficacy reading and establishing the duration of protection.
An independent Data Safety Monitoring Board determined that the analysis met its primary endpoint showing protection from COVID-19 occurring 14 days or more after receiving two doses of the vaccine. No serious safety events related to the vaccine have been confirmed. AZD1222 was well tolerated across both dosing regimens.
AstraZeneca will now immediately prepare regulatory submission of the data to authorities around the world that have a framework in place for conditional or early approval. The Company will seek an Emergency Use Listing from the World Health Organization for an accelerated pathway to vaccine availability in low-income countries. In parallel, the full analysis of the interim results is being submitted for publication in a peer-reviewed journal.
Professor Andrew Pollard, Chief Investigator of the Oxford Vaccine Trial at Oxford, said: “These findings show that we have an effective vaccine that will save many lives. Excitingly, we’ve found that one of our dosing regimens may be around 90% effective and if this dosing regime is used, more people could be vaccinated with planned vaccine supply. Today’s announcement is only possible thanks to the many volunteers in our trial, and the hard working and talented team of researchers based around the world.”
Pascal Soriot, Chief Executive Officer, said: “Today marks an important milestone in our fight against the pandemic. This vaccine’s efficacy and safety confirm that it will be highly effective against COVID-19 and will have an immediate impact on this public health emergency. Furthermore, the vaccine’s simple supply chain and our no-profit pledge and commitment to broad, equitable and timely access means it will be affordable and globally available, supplying hundreds of millions of doses on approval.”
The pooled analysis included data from the COV002 Phase II/III trial in the UK and COV003 Phase III trial in Brazil. Over 23,000 participants are being assessed following two doses of either a half-dose/full-dose regimen or a regimen of two full doses of AZD1222 or a comparator, meningococcal conjugate vaccine called MenACWY or saline. The global trials are evaluating participants aged 18 years or over from diverse racial and geographic groups who are healthy or have stable underlying medical conditions.
Clinical trials are also being conducted in the US, Japan, Russia, South Africa, Kenya and Latin America with planned trials in other European and Asian countries. In total, the Company expects to enrol up to 60,000 participants globally.
The Company is making rapid progress in manufacturing with a capacity of up to 3 billion doses of the vaccine in 2021 on a rolling basis, pending regulatory approval. The vaccine can be stored, transported and handled at normal refrigerated conditions (2-8 degrees Celsius/ 36-46 degrees Fahrenheit) for at least six months and administered within existing healthcare settings.
AstraZeneca continues to engage with governments, multilateral organisations and collaborators around the world to ensure broad and equitable access to the vaccine at no profit for the duration of the pandemic.
COV002
COV002 is a single-blinded, multi-centre, randomised, controlled Phase II/III trial assessing the safety, efficacy and immunogenicity of AZD1222 in 12,390 participants in the UK. Trial participants to date are aged 18 years or over, who are healthy or have medically stable chronic diseases and are at increased risk for being exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Participants receive one or two intramuscular doses of a half dose (~2.5 x1010 viral particles) or full dose (~5x1010 viral particles) of AZD1222 or comparator, meningococcal vaccine MenACWY. Participants have blood samples drawn and clinical assessments for safety as well as immunogenicity at multiple timepoints up to one year post-vaccination. Suspected cases presenting with compatible symptoms were tested for virological confirmation by COVID-19 PCR. In addition, weekly swabbing are done for detection of infection and assessment of vaccine efficacy against infection.
COV003
COV003 is a single-blinded, multi-centre, randomised, controlled Phase III trial assessing the safety, efficacy, and immunogenicity of AZD1222 in 10,300 participants in Brazil. Trial participants to date are aged 18 years or over, who are healthy or have medically stable chronic diseases and are at increased risk for being exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Participants are randomised to receive two intramuscular doses of a full dose (~5x1010 viral particles) of AZD1222 or comparator, meningococcal vaccine MenACWY as first dose and a saline placebo as second dose. Participants have blood samples drawn and clinical assessments for safety as well as immunogenicity at multiple timepoints up to one year post-vaccination. Suspected cases presenting with compatible symptoms were tested for virological confirmation by COVID-19 PCR.
AZD1222
AZD1222 was co-invented by the University of Oxford and its spin-out company, Vaccitech. It uses a replication-deficient chimpanzee viral vector based on a weakened version of a common cold virus (adenovirus) that causes infections in chimpanzees and contains the genetic material of the SARS-CoV-2 virus spike protein. After vaccination, the surface spike protein is produced, priming the immune system to attack the SARS-CoV-2 virus if it later infects the body.
AstraZeneca
AstraZeneca (LSE/STO/Nasdaq: AZN) is a global, science-led biopharmaceutical company that focuses on the discovery, development and commercialisation of prescription medicines, primarily for the treatment of diseases in three therapy areas - Oncology, Cardiovascular, Renal & Metabolism, and Respiratory & Immunology. Based in Cambridge, UK, AstraZeneca operates in over 100 countries and its innovative medicines are used by millions of patients worldwide. Please visit astrazeneca.com and follow the Company on Twitter @AstraZeneca.
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Pa super, ona je i inače bagatela a može, ako sam dobro razumeo, u običan frižider.
Jeste ovo najsmešniji virus na svetu, jebali smo mu mater za godinu dana! (Uz najveći naučni napor u istoriji, ali dobro sad)
Jeste ovo najsmešniji virus na svetu, jebali smo mu mater za godinu dana! (Uz najveći naučni napor u istoriji, ali dobro sad)