Stižu dolari
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Jermeni kanda ispizdeli. Narod izgleda ne voli kad ga nedeljama ložiš kako Azeri plaćaju hiljadama života neki svinjac na pograničnoj liniji, a onda potpišeš predaju.
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- Post n°177
Re: Stižu dolari
Izgleda kao državni udar.
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- Post n°179
Re: Stižu dolari
Opkolili su Pašinjanov auto.
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- Post n°180
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Wife of PM Pashinyan Anna Hakobyan at her Facebook from allegedly frontline: "We have no homeland to give in to neither the enemy nor the traitors."
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- Post n°181
Re: Stižu dolari
Aliyev said in speech right now: "There is no status quo for Karabakh in the agreement signed, it is liberated. Status quo can go to hell, oh and where's Pashinyan?" pic.twitter.com/N4sPjZ0EUJ
— Mirzev (@AFSHARQIZILBASH) November 10, 2020
wait a second, where is @NikolPashinyan? something isn’t right pic.twitter.com/3LTsHHtJzs
— Vahe (@keep1hunnid) November 10, 2020
I see Putin sign. I see Aliyev sign.
— Armenia Intel (@armenia_intel) November 9, 2020
I don't see Pashinyan at all. pic.twitter.com/bcSxWkrm0R
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1325930226396917762.htmlAliyev will address the nation soon.
Conference is livebroadcasting. Click yoda.az and select AzTV
Yoda.az - Milli telekanalların canlı və arxivli yayım platforması
http://yoda.az/
It is in Russian so far. Putin is speaking. Sorry, can't translate these.
Aliyev says "I am happy that war is ending".
Aliyev says that the parties reached a settlement on Karabakh, which meets the interests of Azerbaijan and Armenia
Aliyev thanks Erdogan. Says both Turkish and Russian peacekeepers will be deployed. "Today I am signing this agreement with pride! Congratulations to the people of Azerbaijan!"
Aliyev's speech started.
He will list the terms of agreement.
1 - Full ceasefire starts on 10 November 2020 Moscow time 00:00. Azerbaijan and Armenia keeps their current territories.
Aghdam will return to Azerbaijan.
Russian peacekeepers in Lachin corridor.
Peacekeeping mission will last 5 years. If any of the sides won't get out of the deal 6 months beforehand, mission will last for 5 more years.
Kalbajar will be returned by November 15 and Lachin by December 1.
IDPs will return to Karabakh. POWs and bodies will be exchanged.
Azerbaijan will be able to cross to Nakhchivan through Armenian territory. Roads will be secured by Russian Security Service.
He says Pashinyan should also be speaking live but he dodged at the last minute.
"Pashinyan is not signing the agreement because he wants, but he signs it because we (shows fist) forced him to do so."
He says thanks to this agreement, we will return our territories without any further bloodshed.
He says he has been seeing that IDPs were losing their hopes year-by-year. Now he is very happy for them.
"Congratulations! You are returning! We are returning! Could there be any greater happiness than this?!"
"They were keeping pigs in those ruined settlements in order to insult us. We avenged Khojaly victims. We avenged our martyrs."
He is thanking martyrs and injured soldiers, officers now.
He is now boasting about delivering his promises on retaking Karabakh.
"Pashinyan should have thought of this day when he was dancing drunkenly in Shusha."
"I have told that we will chase them like dogs and now we did it. Everyone saw our iron fist now. And we did that awesomely."
He says he never had that many interviews in this life.
"We have proved that there is a military solution!"
"Why nobody told them 'Stop' when they were invading these territories? But they were telling us to stop. I told them that 'I am not going to stop'."
"Active military phase ended. Now the political phase begins."
He says he could make Pashinyan come to Baku and sign the treaty sitting in front of him. But he doesn't like to humiliate anyone.
Aliyev says as of now, all military operations stopped.
He talks about clause 5 - A peacekeeping center will be set up to monitor the ceasefire in order to increase the effectiveness of monitoring the implementation of the agreements by the parties to the conflict. Turkish peacekeepers will be there.
He talks about clause 9 - a free pass to Nakhchivan with new infrastructure. He says it wasn't included in the original deal, he himself added the clause.
He talks about how Armenia is an ethnostate, says Azerbaijan's superiority lies within multiculturalism.
He smiles and says no status for Nagorno Karabakh:
"I offered them autonomy but they insisted on independence. Hey Pashinyan, what about now? No words of it there!"
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He is talking about how even his harshest critics, people of different ideologies supported him in this war. He says he saw that in national affairs, people can unite together.
He says soon some classified information will be declassified and he will declare them soon. He says every day he was pressured to stop the war.
"We will live on these lands forever and nobody will be able to exile us anymore."
Speech ended with salutations to Azerbaijanis and "Karabakh is ours!"
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- Post n°182
Re: Stižu dolari
Претходних дана су биле жестоке борбе за Шуши, који је на коридору НК - Јерменија. Падом тога, одсечен је централни део НК.
Још горе, Јермени још увек немају рецепт за азерску тактику, тако да јесте време да се убаци пешкир у ринг.
Реално, жали боже хиљада људи настрадалих и спуцаних милијарди. Да ће неко од Азера да се врати у вукојебину у дом срушен пре 20 година... Тешко.
У данашње време тешко замисливо да се води овако интензиван рат, поготово не ни локалних сила.
Још горе, Јермени још увек немају рецепт за азерску тактику, тако да јесте време да се убаци пешкир у ринг.
Реално, жали боже хиљада људи настрадалих и спуцаних милијарди. Да ће неко од Азера да се врати у вукојебину у дом срушен пре 20 година... Тешко.
У данашње време тешко замисливо да се води овако интензиван рат, поготово не ни локалних сила.
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Re: Stižu dolari
rumbeando wrote:Aliyev said in speech right now: "There is no status quo for Karabakh in the agreement signed, it is liberated. Status quo can go to hell, oh and where's Pashinyan?" pic.twitter.com/N4sPjZ0EUJ
— Mirzev (@AFSHARQIZILBASH) November 10, 2020wait a second, where is @NikolPashinyan? something isn’t right pic.twitter.com/3LTsHHtJzs
— Vahe (@keep1hunnid) November 10, 2020I see Putin sign. I see Aliyev sign.
— Armenia Intel (@armenia_intel) November 9, 2020
I don't see Pashinyan at all. pic.twitter.com/bcSxWkrm0R
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1325930226396917762.htmlAliyev will address the nation soon.
Conference is livebroadcasting. Click yoda.az and select AzTV
Yoda.az - Milli telekanalların canlı və arxivli yayım platforması
http://yoda.az/
It is in Russian so far. Putin is speaking. Sorry, can't translate these.
Aliyev says "I am happy that war is ending".
Aliyev says that the parties reached a settlement on Karabakh, which meets the interests of Azerbaijan and Armenia
Aliyev thanks Erdogan. Says both Turkish and Russian peacekeepers will be deployed. "Today I am signing this agreement with pride! Congratulations to the people of Azerbaijan!"
Aliyev's speech started.
He will list the terms of agreement.
1 - Full ceasefire starts on 10 November 2020 Moscow time 00:00. Azerbaijan and Armenia keeps their current territories.
Aghdam will return to Azerbaijan.
Russian peacekeepers in Lachin corridor.
Peacekeeping mission will last 5 years. If any of the sides won't get out of the deal 6 months beforehand, mission will last for 5 more years.
Kalbajar will be returned by November 15 and Lachin by December 1.
IDPs will return to Karabakh. POWs and bodies will be exchanged.
Azerbaijan will be able to cross to Nakhchivan through Armenian territory. Roads will be secured by Russian Security Service.
He says Pashinyan should also be speaking live but he dodged at the last minute.
"Pashinyan is not signing the agreement because he wants, but he signs it because we (shows fist) forced him to do so."
He says thanks to this agreement, we will return our territories without any further bloodshed.
He says he has been seeing that IDPs were losing their hopes year-by-year. Now he is very happy for them.
"Congratulations! You are returning! We are returning! Could there be any greater happiness than this?!"
"They were keeping pigs in those ruined settlements in order to insult us. We avenged Khojaly victims. We avenged our martyrs."
He is thanking martyrs and injured soldiers, officers now.
He is now boasting about delivering his promises on retaking Karabakh.
"Pashinyan should have thought of this day when he was dancing drunkenly in Shusha."
"I have told that we will chase them like dogs and now we did it. Everyone saw our iron fist now. And we did that awesomely."
He says he never had that many interviews in this life.
"We have proved that there is a military solution!"
"Why nobody told them 'Stop' when they were invading these territories? But they were telling us to stop. I told them that 'I am not going to stop'."
"Active military phase ended. Now the political phase begins."
He says he could make Pashinyan come to Baku and sign the treaty sitting in front of him. But he doesn't like to humiliate anyone.
Aliyev says as of now, all military operations stopped.
He talks about clause 5 - A peacekeeping center will be set up to monitor the ceasefire in order to increase the effectiveness of monitoring the implementation of the agreements by the parties to the conflict. Turkish peacekeepers will be there.
He talks about clause 9 - a free pass to Nakhchivan with new infrastructure. He says it wasn't included in the original deal, he himself added the clause.
He talks about how Armenia is an ethnostate, says Azerbaijan's superiority lies within multiculturalism.
He smiles and says no status for Nagorno Karabakh:
"I offered them autonomy but they insisted on independence. Hey Pashinyan, what about now? No words of it there!"
Image
He is talking about how even his harshest critics, people of different ideologies supported him in this war. He says he saw that in national affairs, people can unite together.
He says soon some classified information will be declassified and he will declare them soon. He says every day he was pressured to stop the war.
"We will live on these lands forever and nobody will be able to exile us anymore."
Speech ended with salutations to Azerbaijanis and "Karabakh is ours!"
da parafraziram lukaca: sasa baron koen je realista
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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- Post n°184
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Izgleda da se poslanici, formalni i neformalni, skupljaju u skupštinskoj sali da anuliraju kapitulaciju.
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Re: Stižu dolari
Mhm da, sigurno.
Onda Vlada nacionalnog resantimana i totalne osvete.
Onda Vlada nacionalnog resantimana i totalne osvete.
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Re: Stižu dolari
Samo nek nastave, ima arzebejdzan,turska i izrael da im udju u jerven
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Što se ostaloga tiče, smatram da Zapad treba razoriti
Jedini proleter Burundija
Pristalica krvne osvete
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- Post n°188
Re: Stižu dolari
Tu ce u uvek biti Rusija da posalje mirovne trupe
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- Post n°189
Re: Stižu dolari
Deepl prevod Pašinjanovog sinoćnjeg obraćanja na FB-u:
Izvor na ruskom: https://news.am/rus/news/612474.html
Was this war inevitable? And I want to say bluntly that there was only one possibility for it - to surrender 5 territories, without specifying the status of Karabakh. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan stated this in a live broadcast on his Facebook page.
"This, in fact, was the legacy of the negotiations, which our government received. And in the process of negotiations, starting from 1994, one thing was clear - 7 districts, unfortunately, were to be handed over to Azerbaijan. That is, it was the only very clear formulation of the negotiation process. It was always present in the mentioned process. Nothing else was definite. For example, it was written - specification of the status of Nagorno-Karabakh, and for 25 years there was exactly such a discussion. And what does clarifying the status mean? Azerbaijan said: very good, because there is a right to self-determination and the principle of territorial integrity, so the right to self-determination must take place within the framework of territorial integrity. We said we didn't agree, Azerbaijan gave its interpretation to all this. Because of this, there were always misunderstandings. During these 25 years of negotiations we were unable to clarify this thesis, what the self-determination of nations means," Pashinyan said.
According to him, during this time Azerbaijan, acquiring certain financial and military capabilities, step by step, first ousted Karabakh from the negotiation process, and then the issue of Nagorno-Karabakh's status outside Azerbaijan was removed from the negotiation process. And, in fact, only one thing was clear and tangible in the process of negotiations - the territories had to be returned to Azerbaijan.
"All the documents on the table began with the goals of the Karabakh negotiation process - returning 7 districts to Azerbaijan and clarifying the status of Nagorno-Karabakh. We relied on this base all the time. We couldn't make this thesis about return of districts commented, while the reference to self-determination of nations became very commented.
We inherited the negotiation process at one point, when this indisputable position, in fact, has been the priority of the negotiation process for 25 years. All the time, the Armenian side has been postponing the issue in different ways, avoiding everything and leading it back and forth. But in the negotiations, a clearly defined issue can be postponed for a year, 5, 15, 20 years, but in the end, there comes a moment when the international community has a consensus. And since the issue of specifying the status of Karabakh is very complicated and there is a very specific issue on the table, namely the surrender of territories, let's solve this specific issue, then let's start the rest. As of May 2018, it was a consensus between the co-chairs," Pashinyan said.
As noted by the head of the Cabinet, the April 2016 war began, and then stopped at the condition of the return of territories. "But this attempt would no longer allow the war to begin and stop with the condition of how much more could be pulled, because no one else wants to give such an opportunity. And before the war, we tried to change this logic of negotiation. We tried not to give up, we tried to make the right of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh to self-determination at least reach the certainty that has the issue of giving up territories. This struggle led to the war in the end.
Did we realize that there could be a war? Of course, we did. Were we preparing for this war? Of course we were preparing for it. We were preparing for the war against Azerbaijan. July 2018 showed that the Armed Forces are ready for a war against Baku. Azerbaijan itself saw that it would not be able to achieve success by its own forces, so it did what has been said many times: Turkey, recruiting mercenaries and getting involved in military actions, in fact, created a situation when the Armenian army is fighting against three forces at once.
Our army fought heroically, our soldiers, officers, generals fought selflessly and showed examples of heroism, but in the end, we came to the point when the army raised the question before the political leadership that the problem should be solved as quickly as possible. And the leadership of Artsakh set this task, stating that otherwise the consequences will be much worse. It is in this painful situation that this very decision was made," Prime Minister said.
Izvor na ruskom: https://news.am/rus/news/612474.html
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https://www.civilnet.am/news/2020/11/10/President-of-Karabakh-Speaks-About-the-Hard-Decisions-He-Had-to-Agree-to/40719810 նոյեմբեր, 2020 11:19
President of Karabakh Speaks About the Hard Decisions He Had to Agree to
The President of Artsakh Arayik Harutyunyan delivered a speech following the late night statement about tripartite agreement of Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia regarding the ceasefire agreement in the Nagorno Karabakh region. Below are key points from the speech.
"On November 8, walking in Stepanakert square in the morning, I noted that it was one of the most difficult nights of my life and one of the most difficult dawns. Why did I state this? Because on November 7, we completely lost control over the city of Shushi.
Today, I want to say that I probably had the most difficult night of my life, when I had very difficult days in 1992-94, losing many relatives, relatives who uttered their last words in my arms, but I managed to find the strength, I managed to concentrate on making decisions. I don't know what assessment history will make regarding the decision that was made yesterday, but we had to make it.
First, in terms of the situation on the front. As a result of 43 days of the fighting, we lost the Fizuli district, Jabrayil district, Kubatlu, Zangelan districts, most areas of the Hadrut district, some parts of the Martuni and Askeran districts, and most importantly, Shushi.
The fighting took place at a distance of 2-3 km from Stepanakert. If the fighting continued at that pace, we would lose Artsakh within days, would have had many more victims because the fighting, moving from the frontline to the backbone in some sense, would have irreversible consequences on the frontlines, especially for our conscripts heroically fighting for these 43 days.
We suffered very heavy human losses yesterday, during the last few hours in the Martuni district, due to the drone attacks of the adversary that we weren’t able to halt. As to why we weren’t able to, we will all answer. Yes, everyone. Since we knew that our defense army needed this, this problem exists. Everyone who has held positions in recent decades.
Certainly we didn't fight against Azerbaijan, and definitely not only the Turkish officers or military equipment was on the battlefield during the hostilities. The participation of Turkish soldiers, terrorists, mercenaries from different countries were too.
I bow first to our soldiers, the most heroic guys in the world were our conscripts. I bow to the families and relatives of all the victims. We had to save the lives of those same conscripts.
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- Post n°191
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Mór Thököly wrote:Tu ce u uvek biti Rusija da posalje mirovne trupe
Да није било Руса изгубили би цео Н-К за пар дана. То што је Пашињан замислио да га запад много воли и да Руси нису толико потребни и на томе је радио у претходним годинама је дошло на наплату. Не можеш са Ким Кардијашан и System of down а без озбиљне подршке. A ни овај свет није онај од пре 2008, то никако многи да схвате.
Ово је много значајно за Русе који су сада војно ушло у Азербејџан. Руска војска се данас вратила у скоро све бивше совјетске републике на овај или онај начин.
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https://news.am/eng/news/612496.html17 Armenian political parties announce rally in Yerevan
The council of 17 Armenian political parties has made an announcement stating that the political parties are planning to hold a rally on November 11.
The announcement reads as follows:
“DEAR COMPATRIOTS,
Unfortunately, the most shameful page of our history was written yesterday. A conspiratorial agreement against the nation was signed behind the backs of the soldiers sacrificing their lives and defending the statehood on the military front and behind the backs of all us Armenians. At this moment in time, our collective unity and the exclusion of riots and provocations within the country are strictly necessary.
Tomorrow, on November 11 at 1 p.m. we are holding a rally at Liberty Square where we will present the way out of the situation that has been created.”
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- Post n°194
Re: Stižu dolari
staret wrote:Mór Thököly wrote:Tu ce u uvek biti Rusija da posalje mirovne trupe
Да није било Руса изгубили би цео Н-К за пар дана. То што је Пашињан замислио да га запад много воли и да Руси нису толико потребни и на томе је радио у претходним годинама је дошло на наплату. Не можеш са Ким Кардијашан и System of down а без озбиљне подршке. A ни овај свет није онај од пре 2008, то никако многи да схвате.
Ово је много значајно за Русе који су сада војно ушло у Азербејџан. Руска војска се данас вратила у скоро све бивше совјетске републике на овај или онај начин.
Jermenija je regularan član ODKB i EAU. Stradali su su jer su stradanju bili skloni, Putinu i Erdoganu super.
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S tim da NK nije deo Jermenije, štaviše, pa napad na NK nije napad na suverenu jermensku teritoriju.
Ruske pozicije su slabije sad nego pred rat. Em ga nisu hteli, em nisu hteli ikakvu promenu na terenu, a novo razmeštanje trupa vidim kao slabost a ne snagu jer da su snažni sve bi bilo po njihovoj volji politički i mirno rešavano.
Ruske pozicije su slabije sad nego pred rat. Em ga nisu hteli, em nisu hteli ikakvu promenu na terenu, a novo razmeštanje trupa vidim kao slabost a ne snagu jer da su snažni sve bi bilo po njihovoj volji politički i mirno rešavano.
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Re: Stižu dolari
Ma znam da garancije ne vaze za NK, no ipak, vezani su politicki, ekonomski i vojno za njih, neuporedivo vise nego za Zapad. Ali, da, jedini "pobednik" je Erdoan (uz Azere, naravno). Erdogan nije "junior" partner u odnosu sa Putinom, on uspesno sedi na dve stolice, ali em he TUR butna zemlja, em je ipak i dalje u Natou.
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- Post n°197
Re: Stižu dolari
Navodno je rulja pretukla predsednika parlamenta.
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- Post n°198
Re: Stižu dolari
Ovo je bukvalno deseti put da se pecam i klikcem na ovu temu misleci da se radi o follow-upovima Vasingtonskog sporazuma, autoputu Nis - Pristina, onim US razvojnim agencijama u regionu i slicno.
Naslov je u potpunosti misleading.
Naslov je u potpunosti misleading.
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https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1326175005223292935
An overview of Armenia's visually confirmed losses:
- 185 T-72s
- 90 armoured fighting vehicles
- 182 artillery pieces
- 73 multiple rocket launchers
- 26 SAMs (including 5x S-300 and 1x Tor)
- 14 radars/jammers
- 1 Su-25
- 4 UAVs
- 451 Vehicles
Some 40% of its prewar strength.
An overview of the amount of equipment captured by Azerbaijan from Armenia (these are included in the losses mentioned above):
- 66 T-72s
- 44 armoured fighting vehicles
- 44 artillery pieces
- 52 ATGMs
- 220 trucks
Azerbaijan might have captured more equipment than it lost.
An overview of Azerbaijan's visually confirmed losses:
- 22 tanks
- 41 AFVs
- 11 An-2 decoys used as bait for enemy air defences
- 1 helicopter
- 25 UAVs
- 24 Vehicles
Note that some of this equipment was abandoned on the battlefield and will likely be recovered intact.
If we were to exclude any Azerbaijani losses that are likely to be recovered the list would look like this:
- 19 tanks
- 16 AFVs
- 11 An-2 decoys used as bait for enemy air defences
- 1 helicopter
- 25 UAVs
- 16 Vehicles
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Re: Stižu dolari
Direktan prenos državnog udara.
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Međuopštinski pustolov.
Zli stolar.