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    Post by rumbeando Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:45 pm

    Janko Suvar wrote:Nacin da se sazna je da odes na sajt "pokrajinske vlade" i gledas retardiranog Mirovica dok ovo prenosi. 

    Ne mora, imaju ovde sažeci:
    http://www.vojvodina.gov.rs/sr/%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B3/%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81

    Jučerašnji:
    Na teritoriji AP Vojvodine, na današnji dan, od ukupno 3.268 testiranih osoba kod njih 435 je potvrđeno prisustvo virusa kovid 19. Od početka epidemije 11 obolelih je preminulo, dok su se 54 pacijenta oporavila.
    http://www.vojvodina.gov.rs/sr/%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/%D1%83-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%98%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8-435-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%85-%D0%BE%D0%B4-%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D0%B0-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4-19-54-%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0-%D1%81%D0%B5-%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B0

    Dakle, manje od 10% obolelih i nešto preko 10% preminulih su iz Vojvodine.
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    Post by Janko Suvar Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:53 pm

    Isto kao i sa ostatkom zemlje, treba uzeti sa malom rezervom (iste podatke smo rekli) jer se ceka na testiranje, tako da su to zapravo podaci od pre par dana.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:14 pm

    Iz Voše ima manje onih koji napolju rade na crno i na odredjeno

    Vojvodjanska mesta su urbanisticki zgodnija za "socijalno distanciranje"

    Nareceno distanciranje u Vojvodini i inace malo bolje funkcionise nego u UzaS-u Virus - Page 39 1399639816

    Na kraju, jbg, u Vojvodini ljudi ipak jesu ponesto disciplinovaniji nego juznije, ukljucujuci tu i rukovodioce institucija. Ponesto.

    Kad se sve to sabere...dovoljno je za ovakav skor
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    Post by beatakeshi Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:17 pm

    Zona A I zona B.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:53 pm

    Mutava džiberka raspoložena da nagoveštava pobedu, onu miloševićevskog tipa


    Brnabić: Polako se vidi svetlo na kraju tunela, nazire se kraj epidemije

    Predsednica Vlade Srbije Ana Brnabić izjavila je da se povodom epidemije koronavirusa u Srbiji "polako vidi svetlo na kraju tunela" i da se "nazire kraj ove epidemije".

    Brnabić je za Pink izjavila da je to "ogroman uspeh za našu zemlju i sve nas", i dodala da se zbog toga "ekstremno emotivno ponosi sa svojom zemljom, našim sistemom, zdravstvenim radnicima, predsednikom, Vladom i našim građanima".

    "Čini mi se da smo nadomak da izguramo ovo. Danas je 41. dan, sutra završavamo šestu nedelju, u petak počinje sedma nedelja, očekujemo da polako privodimo kraju epidemiju, uspeli smo da održimo stvari pod kontrolom", kazala je Brnabić i dodala da je važno da svi ostanu disciplinovani i da nastave da se pridržavaju svih propisanih mera.

    Brnabić je rekla da su trenutno "sve snage fokusirane da se suzbije epidemija u Nišu, Aleksincu, Požarevcu i Ćupriji", kao i da je važno da se i ostatak Srbije pridržava restriktivnih mera i discipline.

    "Videli smo zemlje gde su bila dva udara jer su se prerano opustili", kazala je Brnabić.

    Na pitanje novinara kako to da broj obolelih od koronavirusa ipak iz dana u dan raste, Brnabić je odgovorila da je to posledica povećanog broja testiranja, koje prelazi 2.500 testova dnevno, zbog koga mogu da se testiraju i oni sa blažim simptomima.

    "Procenat pozitivnih u odnosu na testirane ili stagnira ili blago pada", kazala je Brnabić i dodala da je procenat pozitivnih na koronavirus u odnosu na broj testiranih na dnevnom nivou najviše iznosio 30 odsto, dok je u sredu taj broj iznosio 14 odsto od ukupno testiranih u protekla 24 sata.

    http://rs.n1info.com/Vesti/a589536/Brnabic-Polako-se-vidi-svetlo-na-kraju-tunela-nazire-se-kraj-epidemije.html
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:09 pm

    Bendegúz Somogyi wrote:Mutava džiberka raspoložena da nagoveštava pobedu, onu miloševićevskog tipa


    Brnabić: Polako se vidi svetlo na kraju tunela, nazire se kraj epidemije

    Predsednica Vlade Srbije Ana Brnabić izjavila je da se povodom epidemije koronavirusa u Srbiji "polako vidi svetlo na kraju tunela" i da se "nazire kraj ove epidemije".

    Brnabić je za Pink izjavila da je to "ogroman uspeh za našu zemlju i sve nas", i dodala da se zbog toga "ekstremno emotivno ponosi sa svojom zemljom, našim sistemom, zdravstvenim radnicima, predsednikom, Vladom i našim građanima".

    "Čini mi se da smo nadomak da izguramo ovo. Danas je 41. dan, sutra završavamo šestu nedelju, u petak počinje sedma nedelja, očekujemo da polako privodimo kraju epidemiju, uspeli smo da održimo stvari pod kontrolom", kazala je Brnabić i dodala da je važno da svi ostanu disciplinovani i da nastave da se pridržavaju svih propisanih mera.

    Brnabić je rekla da su trenutno "sve snage fokusirane da se suzbije epidemija u Nišu, Aleksincu, Požarevcu i Ćupriji", kao i da je važno da se i ostatak Srbije pridržava restriktivnih mera i discipline.

    "Videli smo zemlje gde su bila dva udara jer su se prerano opustili", kazala je Brnabić.

    Na pitanje novinara kako to da broj obolelih od koronavirusa ipak iz dana u dan raste, Brnabić je odgovorila da je to posledica povećanog broja testiranja, koje prelazi 2.500 testova dnevno, zbog koga mogu da se testiraju i oni sa blažim simptomima.

    "Procenat pozitivnih u odnosu na testirane ili stagnira ili blago pada", kazala je Brnabić i dodala da je procenat pozitivnih na koronavirus u odnosu na broj testiranih na dnevnom nivou najviše iznosio 30 odsto, dok je u sredu taj broj iznosio 14 odsto od ukupno testiranih u protekla 24 sata.

    http://rs.n1info.com/Vesti/a589536/Brnabic-Polako-se-vidi-svetlo-na-kraju-tunela-nazire-se-kraj-epidemije.html

    Ovo je bukvalno kao ona pobeda nad NATO-om.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:15 pm

    molm da više ne pišete da je mutava

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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:16 pm

    mada nije da nije u pravu
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    Post by Erős Pista Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:18 pm

    Sofisticirana


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    Post by rumbeando Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:31 pm

    Pregnant NHS nurse dies with coronavirus – but baby saved

    Channel 4 News has learned that “fabulous” 28-year-old nurse Mary Agyeiwaa Agyapong passed away on Sunday

    A heavily pregnant nurse who had tested positive for Covid-19 has died, Channel 4 News has learned.

    Mary Agyeiwaa Agyapong, 28, underwent an emergency caesarean to deliver and save her baby daughter.

    The little girl is understood to be alive and being cared for. But it’s not clear if she has tested positive for the disease.

    Colleagues at Luton and Dunstable Hospital said Mary was “a fabulous nurse, and a great example of what we stand for”.

    An internal email to staff explained the decision to perform an emergency cesarean was taken after Mary’s condition deteriorated. Doctors initially thought she was showing signs of improving afterwards, but her symptoms got worse again and she passed away on Sunday.
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    https://www.channel4.com/news/pregnant-nhs-nurse-dies-with-coronavirus-but-baby-saved
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    Post by rumbeando Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:43 pm


    China for the first time publicized a breakdown of people testing positive for the novel coronavirus without outward signs of being sick, revealing that those among them who remain symptom-free throughout infection are in the majority.

    Among 6,764 people who tested positive for infection without showing symptoms, only one fifth of them -- 1,297 -- have so far developed symptoms and been re-classified as confirmed cases, China’s National Health Commission spokesman Mi Feng said at a briefing in Beijing Wednesday.

    Some 1,023 are still being monitored in medical quarantine to see if they develop symptoms. The rest -- 4,444 -- have been discharged from medical observation after recovering from the virus.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-15/china-s-data-on-symptom-free-cases-reveals-most-never-get-sick?sref=vuYGislZ

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:48 pm

    Zajeban virus
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    Post by Margit Savović Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:00 pm

    Zajeban sa epidemioloske strane jer se zbog toga u odsustvu mera lako siri, ali posto ovoliko ljudi nikad ne razvije simptome, on nije medju najgorima.
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    Post by rumbeando Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:10 pm

    China secretly determined likely pandemic in January, didn’t warn public for six key days

    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    PUBLISHED 14 HOURS AGO

    In the six days after top Chinese officials secretly determined they likely were facing a pandemic from a new coronavirus, the city of Wuhan at the epicentre of the disease hosted a mass banquet for tens of thousands of people; millions began travelling through for Lunar New Year celebrations.

    President Xi Jinping warned the public on the seventh day, Jan. 20. But by then, more than 3,000 people had been infected during almost a week of public silence, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press and estimates based on retrospective infection data.

    The delay from Jan. 14 to Jan. 20 was neither the first mistake made by Chinese officials at all levels in confronting the outbreak, nor the longest lag, as governments around the world have dragged their feet for weeks and even months in addressing the virus.

    But the delay by the first country to face the new coronavirus came at a critical time – the beginning of the outbreak. China’s attempt to walk a line between alerting the public and avoiding panic set the stage for a pandemic that has infected almost 2 million people and taken more than 126,000 lives.

    “This is tremendous,” said Zuo-Feng Zhang, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Los Angeles. “If they took action six days earlier, there would have been much fewer patients and medical facilities would have been sufficient.”

    However, another epidemiologist, Benjamin Cowley at the University of Hong Kong, noted that it may have been a tricky call. If health officials raise the alarm prematurely, it can damage their credibility – “like crying wolf” – and may cripple their ability to mobilize the public, he said.

    The six-day delay by China’s leaders in Beijing came on top of almost two weeks during which the national Center for Disease Control did not register any new cases, internal bulletins obtained by the AP confirmed. Yet during that time, from Jan. 5 to Jan. 17, hundreds of patients were appearing in hospitals not just in Wuhan – which finally reopened last week – but across the country.

    China’s rigid controls on information, bureaucratic hurdles and a reluctance to send bad news up the chain of command muffled early warnings, experts said. Without these internal reports, it took the first case outside China, in Thailand on Jan. 13, to galvanize leaders in Beijing into recognizing the possible pandemic before them.

    The Chinese government has repeatedly denied suppressing information in the early days, saying it immediately reported the outbreak to the World Health Organization.

    “Allegations of a cover-up or lack of transparency in China are groundless,” said foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian at a Thursday news conference.

    The documents show that the head of China’s National Health Commission, Ma Xiaowei, laid out a grim assessment of the situation in a confidential Jan. 14 teleconference with provincial health officials. A memo states that the teleconference was held to convey instructions on the coronavirus from President Xi Jinping, Premier Li Keqiang and Vice Premier Sun Chunlan, but does not specify what those instructions were.

    “The epidemic situation is still severe and complex, the most severe challenge since SARS in 2003, and is likely to develop into a major public health event,” the memo cites Ma as saying.


    In a faxed statement, the National Health Commission said China had published information on the outbreak in an “open, transparent, responsible and timely manner,” in accordance with “important instructions” repeatedly issued by President Xi.

    The documents come from an anonymous source in the medical field who did not want to be named for fear of retribution. The AP confirmed the contents with two other sources in public health familiar with the teleconference.

    Under a section titled “sober understanding of the situation,” the memo singled out the case in Thailand, saying that the situation had “changed significantly” because of the possible spread of the virus abroad.

    “All localities must prepare for and respond to a pandemic,” it said.

    The National Health Commission distributed a 63-page set of instructions to provincial health officials, obtained by the AP. The instructions, marked “not to be publicly disclosed,” ordered health officials nationwide to identify suspected cases, hospitals to open fever clinics, and doctors and nurses to don protective gear.

    In public, however, officials continued to downplay the threat.

    “The risk of sustained human-to-human transmission is low,” Li Qun, the head of the China CDC’s emergency centre, told Chinese state television on Jan. 15.

    Under the new orders, on Jan. 16 officials in Wuhan and elsewhere finally got CDC-approved testing kits and a green light to start confirming new cases. Across the country, dozens of reported cases then began to surface, in some cases among patients who were infected earlier but had not yet been tested.

    On Jan. 20, President Xi issued his first public comments on the virus, saying the outbreak “must be taken seriously”. A leading Chinese epidemiologist, Zhong Nanshan, announced for the first time that the virus was transmissible from person to person on national television.


    The delay may support accusations by U.S. President Donald Trump that the Chinese government’s secrecy held back the world’s response to the virus. However, even the public announcement on Jan. 20 left the U.S. nearly two months to prepare for the pandemic – time that the U.S. squandered.

    Some health experts said Beijing took decisive action given the information available to them.

    “They may not have said the right thing, but they were doing the right thing,” said Ray Yip, the retired founding head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control’s office in China. “On the 20th, they sounded the alarm for the whole country, which is not an unreasonable delay.”

    But others say an earlier warning would have saved lives. If the public had been warned a week earlier to practice social distancing, wear masks and cut back on travel, cases could have been cut by up to two-thirds, one paper later found.

    “The earlier you act,” said Los Angeles epidemiologist Zhang, “the easier you can control the disease.”
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-china-secretly-determined-likely-pandemic-in-january-didnt-warn/
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:14 pm

    Margit Savović wrote:Zajeban sa epidemioloske strane jer se zbog toga u odsustvu mera lako siri, ali posto ovoliko ljudi nikad ne razvije simptome, on nije medju najgorima.

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    Post by MNE Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:55 pm

    Talason wrote:molm da više ne pišete da je mutava


    prešlo joj od Babića, vazduplohovnim putem
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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:57 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:
    Margit Savović wrote:Zajeban sa epidemioloske strane jer se zbog toga u odsustvu mera lako siri, ali posto ovoliko ljudi nikad ne razvije simptome, on nije medju najgorima.

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    Post by kapetanm Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:01 pm

    Iz popodnevne dremka trgla me žena, sva uspaničena. Kaže oseća simotome grlo, glava sve, ali nema temp. Jbg ona obično ide u nabavku, ja samo vozim. Dok je umirujem, jadna sprema kuću jer kako cu ja sam za ne daj bože. Napravila i frizuru za sajam. I sad čeka da joj bude gore uzela kapi za nos i gleda seriju.
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    Post by ficfiric Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:24 pm

    Je li oseca mirise?


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:26 pm

    Ajde valjda nece temperatura. Nosi masku u radnji? (preporucujem i naocare, prisnije da nalegnu) Perete stvari iz radnje?
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:34 pm

    Izolujte se momentalno, ti si kriticniji od nje. Dok ne bude jasnija situacija
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    Post by kondo Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:40 pm

    idite jebite se ako se zarazi ko zna kad ćeš ponovo a o njoj da ne govorim


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    Post by ficfiric Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:56 pm

    Prolece je. Ja sam u ova dva meseca imao sve simptome po nekoliko puta ali nikad dva u isto vreme... sem gubljenja cula mirisa i ukusa


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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:14 pm

    Mislim da je povišena temperatura prvi simptom kod gotovo svih.

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