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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:23 pm

    Neki penzioneri se neće od 10č povući sa ulice, gomila ljudi se neće povući u 20č, policija će dohvatiti nekog i pisati kazne, vlada će da na kzn napuši građane itd.

    edit: Naravno da će poštovanje biti brljavo a kontrola mestimična i oportuna, jel stvarno debatujemo i čudimo se tome.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:31 pm

    Ne, ok, bolje i tako nego nikako, ali prosto tesko je reci ljudima od sad pa na dalje nema napolje. Treba dati bar okvirni rok, da ljudi uzmu vazduh
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    Post by MNE Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:35 pm

    KinderLad wrote:
    Papa Lazarou wrote:Koliko čitam i slušam iz više izvora - naredba o karantinu penzionera ne funkcioniše.

    Nemam sta da citam, video sam ih bar 5 na ulici. Moraju ljudima da ostave neki period od tipa dva sata, ili da po zadnjem broju JMBG podele kojim danima neko moze da izadje na 2-3 sata. I da pomere polic. cas na 22h, nema sanse da se u 20h isprazne ulice. Ili bar da kazu - sedite naredne tri nedelje da vidimo ima li efekta
    par nepar mogu da urade kao nekad sa tablicama u doba SFRJ
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    Post by Летећи Полип Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:35 pm

    Pa neće moći dugo tako. Ako se stvori kritična masa nepoštovalaca, mere će se raspasti. A onda će se i neke buduće mere jako teško sprovoditi.


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    Post by Летећи Полип Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:40 pm

    Mislim, korona je ovde još uvek apstraktna opasnost. Još uvek niko nije umro. Za ogromnu većnu predstavlja statistiku uz koju se cokće uz jutarnju kafu. Jako je teško zavesti drakonske mere u takvoj atmosferi.


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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:42 pm

    U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages

    The 100-page federal plan laid out a grim prognosis and outlined a response that would activate agencies across the government.


    WASHINGTON — A federal government plan to combat the coronavirus warned policymakers last week that a pandemic “will last 18 months or longer” and could include “multiple waves,” resulting in widespread shortages that would strain consumers and the nation’s health care system.

    The 100-page plan, dated Friday, the same day President Trump declared a national emergency, laid out a grim prognosis for the spread of the virus and outlined a response that would activate agencies across the government and potentially employ special presidential powers to mobilize the private sector.

    Among the “additional key federal decisions” listed among the options for Mr. Trump was invoking the Defense Production Act of 1950, a Korean War-era law that authorizes a president to take extraordinary action to force American industry to ramp up production of critical equipment and supplies such as ventilators, respirators and protective gear for health care workers.

    “Shortages of products may occur, impacting health care, emergency services, and other elements of critical infrastructure,” the plan warned. “This includes potentially critical shortages of diagnostics, medical supplies (including PPE and pharmaceuticals), and staffing in some locations.” P.P.E. refers to personal protective equipment.

    The plan continued: “State and local governments, as well as critical infrastructure and communications channels, will be stressed and potentially less reliable. These stresses may also increase the challenges of getting updated messages and coordinating guidance to these jurisdictions directly.”

    The plan, which was unclassified but marked “For Official Use Only // Not For Public Distribution or Release,” was shared with The New York Times as Mr. Trump escalated his efforts to curb the spread of the virus. After weeks of playing down the seriousness of the pandemic, saying it would miraculously disappear, Mr. Trump began shifting to a more sober tone during a news conference on Friday announcing the national emergency.

    Much of the plan is bureaucratic in nature, describing coordination among agencies and actions that in some cases have already been taken, like urging schools to close and large events to be canceled. But its discussion of the Defense Production Act came as lawmakers and others urged Mr. Trump to invoke its powers.

    ...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-plan.html?smid=fb-share
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:57 pm

    Virus - Page 24 ETVmHyfX0AE9yva

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    :heart:
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:59 pm

    Malo više detalja o onom leku favipiravir:


    Medical authorities in China have said a drug used in Japan to treat new strains of influenza appeared to be effective in coronavirus patients, Japanese media said on Wednesday.

    Zhang Xinmin, an official at China’s science and technology ministry, said favipiravir, developed by a subsidiary of Fujifilm, had produced encouraging outcomes in clinical trials in Wuhan and Shenzhen involving 340 patients.

    “It has a high degree of safety and is clearly effective in treatment,” Zhang told reporters on Tuesday.

    Patients who were given the medicine in Shenzhen turned negative for the virus after a median of four days after becoming positive, compared with a median of 11 days for those who were not treated with the drug, public broadcaster NHK said.

    In addition, X-rays confirmed improvements in lung condition in about 91% of the patients who were treated with favipiravir, compared to 62% or those without the drug.

    Fujifilm Toyama Chemical, which developed the drug – also known as Avigan – in 2014, has declined to comment on the claims.

    Shares in the firm surged on Wednesday following Zhang’s comments, closing the morning up 14.7% at 5,207 yen, having briefly hit their daily limit high of 5,238 yen.

    Doctors in Japan are using the same drug in clinical studies on coronavirus patients with mild to moderate symptoms, hoping it will prevent the virus from multiplying in patients.

    But a Japanese health ministry source suggested the drug was not as effective in people with more severe symptoms. “We’ve given Avigan to 70 to 80 people, but it doesn’t seem to work that well when the virus has already multiplied,” the source told the Mainichi Shimbun.

    The same limitations had been identified in studies involving coronavirus patients using a combination of the HIV antiretrovirals lopinavir and ritonavir, the source added.
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:04 pm

    Gargantua wrote:
     developed by a subsidiary of Fujifilm
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:16 pm

    No comment

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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:27 pm

    Sranje Virus - Page 24 1949538119

    U Istri je umro muškarac koji je bio u samoizolaciji zbog virusa korona, što je i prvi smrtni slučaj u Hrvatskoj.

    Imao je blage simptome bolesti, ali mu se u noći na sredu stanje naglo pogoršalo, došlo je do komplikacija i muškarac je umro.

    Odbio je da ode u bolnicu iako su lekari to predlagali. Iako još zvanično nije potvrđeno da je korona virus uzrokovao smrt starijeg muškarca, predstavnici Zavoda za javno zdravstvo kažu da je to verovatno prvi smrtni slučaj od posledica korona virusa u Hrvatskoj.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:41 pm

    Gargantua wrote:Malo više detalja o onom leku favipiravir:


    Medical authorities in China have said a drug used in Japan to treat new strains of influenza appeared to be effective in coronavirus patients, Japanese media said on Wednesday.

    Zhang Xinmin, an official at China’s science and technology ministry, said favipiravir, developed by a subsidiary of Fujifilm, had produced encouraging outcomes in clinical trials in Wuhan and Shenzhen involving 340 patients.

    “It has a high degree of safety and is clearly effective in treatment,” Zhang told reporters on Tuesday.

    Patients who were given the medicine in Shenzhen turned negative for the virus after a median of four days after becoming positive, compared with a median of 11 days for those who were not treated with the drug, public broadcaster NHK said.

    In addition, X-rays confirmed improvements in lung condition in about 91% of the patients who were treated with favipiravir, compared to 62% or those without the drug.

    Fujifilm Toyama Chemical, which developed the drug – also known as Avigan – in 2014, has declined to comment on the claims.

    Shares in the firm surged on Wednesday following Zhang’s comments, closing the morning up 14.7% at 5,207 yen, having briefly hit their daily limit high of 5,238 yen.

    Doctors in Japan are using the same drug in clinical studies on coronavirus patients with mild to moderate symptoms, hoping it will prevent the virus from multiplying in patients.

    But a Japanese health ministry source suggested the drug was not as effective in people with more severe symptoms. “We’ve given Avigan to 70 to 80 people, but it doesn’t seem to work that well when the virus has already multiplied,” the source told the Mainichi Shimbun.

    The same limitations had been identified in studies involving coronavirus patients using a combination of the HIV antiretrovirals lopinavir and ritonavir, the source added.

    Pazo nije bitno. Ako radi kod tipa 90% pacijenata, to znaci da oni mogu kuci, a to bi bilo odlicno sa stanovista kapaciteta
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:42 pm

    prvi kraft sanitajzer! (nadam se da nisu samo natrpali tonu hmelja da pokriju običan alkohol)

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    Post by Margit Savović Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:48 pm

    Gargantua wrote:Sranje Virus - Page 24 1949538119

    U Istri je umro muškarac koji je bio u samoizolaciji zbog virusa korona, što je i prvi smrtni slučaj u Hrvatskoj.

    Imao je blage simptome bolesti, ali mu se u noći na sredu stanje naglo pogoršalo, došlo je do komplikacija i muškarac je umro.

    Odbio je da ode u bolnicu iako su lekari to predlagali. Iako još zvanično nije potvrđeno da je korona virus uzrokovao smrt starijeg muškarca, predstavnici Zavoda za javno zdravstvo kažu da je to verovatno prvi smrtni slučaj od posledica korona virusa u Hrvatskoj.
    Nije potvrdjeno da ima veze sa koronom. Covek nije testiran. 

    Kad smo dalje kod suma informacija, odluke iz ove vesti ne mogu da nadjem ni na Sluzbenom Glasniku niti na sajtu Ministarstva Zdravlja. https://nova.rs/drustvo/objavljenje-mere-i-mesta-karantina/
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:57 pm

    Tog zaključka nema ni na sajtu vlade, stoji neki drugi zaključak za jučerašnju sednicu.
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    Post by Dambo Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:07 pm

    Imao je blage simptome bolesti, došlo je naglo do neodređene komplikacije. Nije potvrđeno da je zbog korona virusa. 

    Naslov: Umro muškarac zbog virusa korona. 

    Kad sve ovo prođe mediji internet doba možda imaju i viši nivo prioriteta za overhaul od javnog zdravstva.
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    Post by Margit Savović Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:09 pm

    Zvala sam Aerodrom BG i nemaju tu informaciju. Inače, RT Vojvodina takođe ima od reči do reči tu informaciju. Ubiću se od lažnih i neproverenih vesti.
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:20 pm

    AV reče sinoć da majke dece do 12 godina neće morati na posao a da će dobijati punu platu. jel to ozvaničeno nekom odlukom?
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:23 pm

    да копирам шта сам написао тамо

    Не знам да ли је било до сада, али водите рачуна да не мешате дезинфекциона средства. Углавном се ради о оксидационим средствима, која лако реагују са другим једињењима и тада може доћи до разних нежељених производа реакције, тако да ем им смањујете ефикасност, ем се непотребно трујете. Ово нарочито важи за разне хлорне деривате, руководите се званичним препорукама и ако већ употребљавате разна дезинфекциона средства, немојте то да радите истовремено, већ сукцесивно, када претходно употребљено исперете.
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    Post by паће Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:44 pm

    Dambo wrote:Možda je već kačeno - izraelska tajna služba će kroz podatke mobilne telefonije pratiti kretanje zaraženih koronavirusom unazad, kako bi se videlo sa kime su još došli u kontakt. 

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/knesset-committee-chair-slams-cabinets-phone-tracking-decision-as-power-grab/

    Неколико израелских фирми покрива доста телекомуникација из западне хемисфере, за ван тога не знам. Тако да доста тога пролази кроз њихове сервере, могу да вршљају докле хоће. Не бих се чудио да знају с ког је ко аеродрома кренуо док није дошао до оног стварно међународног, да пређе бару.

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    ... authorizes a president to take extraordinary action to force American industry to ramp up production of critical equipment and supplies such as ventilators, respirators and protective gear for health care workers.

    Коју то производњу?


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    Post by паће Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:45 pm

    У Холандији пензионери покуповали све голубове, јер цијена ситница...

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    Post by Летећи Полип Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:49 pm

    I šta će sad da im rade? Virus - Page 24 2729202060


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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:50 pm

    pominjao se stav prema Kini u svetlu pandemije, evo jednog "just sayin'" tvita pinkerovskog racionalnog optimiste™



    sledeći korak: regime-change, anyone?  Virus - Page 24 2304934895
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    Post by Sergen Yalçın Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:57 pm

    mogu da ga puse kini.


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    Post by boomer crook Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:57 pm

    ma mogu da ih poljube u zuto dupe.


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