Virus

Sotir wrote:
Да сам ово видео у неком филму, рекао бих како неуверљиво.

Policijski službenik Granične policije uhapšen je na Međunarodnom graničnom prijelazu Brčko, jer je za određenu sumu novca omogućio nezakonit ulazak u BiH za tri osobe koje su dolazile sa područja s kojeg je zabranjen ulazak u zemlju zbog koronovirusa.

We’re not going back to normal

Social distancing is here to stay for much more than a few weeks. It will upend our way of life, in some ways forever.


To stop coronavirus we will need to radically change almost everything we do: how we work, exercise, socialize, shop, manage our health, educate our kids, take care of family members.

We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized—yet will soon—is that things won’t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.

...

This isn’t a temporary disruption. It’s the start of a completely different way of life.

Living in a state of pandemic

In the short term, this will be hugely damaging to businesses that rely on people coming together in large numbers: restaurants, cafes, bars, nightclubs, gyms, hotels, theaters, cinemas, art galleries, shopping malls, craft fairs, museums, musicians and other performers, sporting venues (and sports teams), conference venues (and conference producers), cruise lines, airlines, public transportation, private schools, day-care centers. That’s to say nothing of the stresses on parents thrust into home-schooling their kids, people trying to care for elderly relatives without exposing them to the virus, people trapped in abusive relationships, and anyone without a financial cushion to deal with swings in income.

There’ll be some adaptation, of course: gyms could start selling home equipment and online training sessions, for example. We’ll see an explosion of new services in what’s already been dubbed the “shut-in economy.” One can also wax hopeful about the way some habits might change—less carbon-burning travel, more local supply chains, more walking and biking.

But the disruption to many, many businesses and livelihoods will be impossible to manage. And the shut-in lifestyle just isn’t sustainable for such long periods.

So how can we live in this new world? Part of the answer—hopefully—will be better health-care systems, with pandemic response units that can move quickly to identify and contain outbreaks before they start to spread, and the ability to quickly ramp up production of medical equipment, testing kits, and drugs. Those will be too late to stop Covid-19, but they’ll help with future pandemics.

In the near term, we’ll probably find awkward compromises that allow us to retain some semblance of a social life. Maybe movie theaters will take out half their seats, meetings will be held in larger rooms with spaced-out chairs, and gyms will require you to book workouts ahead of time so they don’t get crowded.

Ultimately, however, I predict that we’ll restore the ability to socialize safely by developing more sophisticated ways to identify who is a disease risk and who isn’t, and discriminating—legally—against those who are.

We can see harbingers of this in the measures some countries are taking today. Israel is going to use the cell-phone location data with which its intelligence services track terrorists to trace people who’ve been in touch with known carriers of the virus. Singapore does exhaustive contact tracing and publishes detailed data on each known case, all but identifying people by name.

We don’t know exactly what this new future looks like, of course. But one can imagine a world in which, to get on a flight, perhaps you’ll have to be signed up to a service that tracks your movements via your phone. The airline wouldn’t be able to see where you’d gone, but it would get an alert if you’d been close to known infected people or disease hot spots. There’d be similar requirements at the entrance to large venues, government buildings, or public transport hubs. There would be temperature scanners everywhere, and your workplace might demand you wear a monitor that tracks your temperature or other vital signs. Where nightclubs ask for proof of age, in future they might ask for proof of immunity—an identity card or some kind of digital verification via your phone, showing you’ve already recovered from or been vaccinated against the latest virus strains.

We’ll adapt to and accept such measures, much as we’ve adapted to increasingly stringent airport security screenings in the wake of terrorist attacks. The intrusive surveillance will be considered a small price to pay for the basic freedom to be with other people.

As usual, however, the true cost will be borne by the poorest and weakest. People with less access to health care, or who live in more disease-prone areas, will now also be more frequently shut out of places and opportunities open to everyone else. Gig workers—from drivers to plumbers to freelance yoga instructors—will see their jobs become even more precarious. Immigrants, refugees, the undocumented, and ex-convicts will face yet another obstacle to gaining a foothold in society.

Moreover, unless there are strict rules on how someone’s risk for disease is assessed, governments or companies could choose any criteria—you’re high-risk if you earn less than $50,000 a year, are in a family of more than six people, and live in certain parts of the country, for example. That creates scope for algorithmic bias and hidden discrimination, as happened last year with an algorithm used by US health insurers that turned out to inadvertently favor white people.

The world has changed many times, and it is changing again. All of us will have to adapt to a new way of living, working, and forging relationships. But as with all change, there will be some who lose more than most, and they will be the ones who have lost far too much already. The best we can hope for is that the depth of this crisis will finally force countries—the US, in particular—to fix the yawning social inequities that make large swaths of their populations so intensely vulnerable.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615370/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing-18-months/?utm_campaign=site_visitor.unpaid.engagement&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social_share&utm_content=2020-03-18

Gargantua wrote:Zanimljiv - u smislu špekulativan - tekst. Bazira se na onom izveštaju Imperijalnog koledža (čiji je stručnjak Nil Ferguson (ne istoričar) objavio da je i sam zaražen). Mada mene više zanima kako će Kina i ostale rano razažene zemlje proći sa eventualnim ponavljanjima epidemije od nekog matematičkog modeliranja.

We’re not going back to normal

Social distancing is here to stay for much more than a few weeks. It will upend our way of life, in some ways forever.


To stop coronavirus we will need to radically change almost everything we do: how we work, exercise, socialize, shop, manage our health, educate our kids, take care of family members.

We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized—yet will soon—is that things won’t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.

...

This isn’t a temporary disruption. It’s the start of a completely different way of life.

Living in a state of pandemic

In the short term, this will be hugely damaging to businesses that rely on people coming together in large numbers: restaurants, cafes, bars, nightclubs, gyms, hotels, theaters, cinemas, art galleries, shopping malls, craft fairs, museums, musicians and other performers, sporting venues (and sports teams), conference venues (and conference producers), cruise lines, airlines, public transportation, private schools, day-care centers. That’s to say nothing of the stresses on parents thrust into home-schooling their kids, people trying to care for elderly relatives without exposing them to the virus, people trapped in abusive relationships, and anyone without a financial cushion to deal with swings in income.

There’ll be some adaptation, of course: gyms could start selling home equipment and online training sessions, for example. We’ll see an explosion of new services in what’s already been dubbed the “shut-in economy.” One can also wax hopeful about the way some habits might change—less carbon-burning travel, more local supply chains, more walking and biking.

But the disruption to many, many businesses and livelihoods will be impossible to manage. And the shut-in lifestyle just isn’t sustainable for such long periods.

So how can we live in this new world? Part of the answer—hopefully—will be better health-care systems, with pandemic response units that can move quickly to identify and contain outbreaks before they start to spread, and the ability to quickly ramp up production of medical equipment, testing kits, and drugs. Those will be too late to stop Covid-19, but they’ll help with future pandemics.

In the near term, we’ll probably find awkward compromises that allow us to retain some semblance of a social life. Maybe movie theaters will take out half their seats, meetings will be held in larger rooms with spaced-out chairs, and gyms will require you to book workouts ahead of time so they don’t get crowded.

Ultimately, however, I predict that we’ll restore the ability to socialize safely by developing more sophisticated ways to identify who is a disease risk and who isn’t, and discriminating—legally—against those who are.

We can see harbingers of this in the measures some countries are taking today. Israel is going to use the cell-phone location data with which its intelligence services track terrorists to trace people who’ve been in touch with known carriers of the virus. Singapore does exhaustive contact tracing and publishes detailed data on each known case, all but identifying people by name.

We don’t know exactly what this new future looks like, of course. But one can imagine a world in which, to get on a flight, perhaps you’ll have to be signed up to a service that tracks your movements via your phone. The airline wouldn’t be able to see where you’d gone, but it would get an alert if you’d been close to known infected people or disease hot spots. There’d be similar requirements at the entrance to large venues, government buildings, or public transport hubs. There would be temperature scanners everywhere, and your workplace might demand you wear a monitor that tracks your temperature or other vital signs. Where nightclubs ask for proof of age, in future they might ask for proof of immunity—an identity card or some kind of digital verification via your phone, showing you’ve already recovered from or been vaccinated against the latest virus strains.

We’ll adapt to and accept such measures, much as we’ve adapted to increasingly stringent airport security screenings in the wake of terrorist attacks. The intrusive surveillance will be considered a small price to pay for the basic freedom to be with other people.

As usual, however, the true cost will be borne by the poorest and weakest. People with less access to health care, or who live in more disease-prone areas, will now also be more frequently shut out of places and opportunities open to everyone else. Gig workers—from drivers to plumbers to freelance yoga instructors—will see their jobs become even more precarious. Immigrants, refugees, the undocumented, and ex-convicts will face yet another obstacle to gaining a foothold in society.

Moreover, unless there are strict rules on how someone’s risk for disease is assessed, governments or companies could choose any criteria—you’re high-risk if you earn less than $50,000 a year, are in a family of more than six people, and live in certain parts of the country, for example. That creates scope for algorithmic bias and hidden discrimination, as happened last year with an algorithm used by US health insurers that turned out to inadvertently favor white people.

The world has changed many times, and it is changing again. All of us will have to adapt to a new way of living, working, and forging relationships. But as with all change, there will be some who lose more than most, and they will be the ones who have lost far too much already. The best we can hope for is that the depth of this crisis will finally force countries—the US, in particular—to fix the yawning social inequities that make large swaths of their populations so intensely vulnerable.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615370/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing-18-months/?utm_campaign=site_visitor.unpaid.engagement&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social_share&utm_content=2020-03-18

I had to travel earlier this month and this is how my movements were being tracked for the purpose of #COVID19 containment.

Follow @RadiiChina for more videos on #China! #coronavirus #COVID2019 pic.twitter.com/yHzdm7q6HF

— Carol Yin (@CarolYujiaYin) March 16, 2020

MNE wrote:

KinderLad wrote:Mislim da tesko. Takodje mislim da ce lekovi (koje ce pacijenti moci da "administer" kod kuce) doci mnogo pre vakcina. Kad to bude + on spot testovi, onda ce zivot polako poceti da se vraca u normalu jer ce do tada i medicinsli kapaciteti bito dovoljno prosireni da mogu da prime 5% onih kojima treba intenzivna nega. To racunam da ce biti negde od leta (avgust, optimisticno)

uzimaju

btw ovamo je haos, oće po fejsbuku da linčuju ove dvije što su pozitivne, iščačkali su već da jedna stigla i na litiju i na svadbu i na sahranu...

Djamolidine Abdoujaparov wrote:

Gargantua wrote:Zanimljiv - u smislu špekulativan - tekst. Bazira se na onom izveštaju Imperijalnog koledža (čiji je stručnjak Nil Ferguson (ne istoričar) objavio da je i sam zaražen). Mada mene više zanima kako će Kina i ostale rano razažene zemlje proći sa eventualnim ponavljanjima epidemije od nekog matematičkog modeliranja.

zanimljiv u smislu--scary af.

u Kini izgleda  težak surveillance već uveliko koriste da prate i ograničavaju kretanje. dajmo nemojmo da se na tako nešto naviknemo kao na normalno.

I had to travel earlier this month and this is how my movements were being tracked for the purpose of #COVID19 containment.

Follow @RadiiChina for more videos on #China! #coronavirus #COVID2019 pic.twitter.com/yHzdm7q6HF

— Carol Yin (@CarolYujiaYin) March 16, 2020

Papa Lazarou wrote:Koliko čitam i slušam iz više izvora - naredba o karantinu penzionera ne funkcioniše.

Papa Lazarou wrote:navuku šmekerski kez, SMB prsluk sa sedamsto džepova i nabiju dvadeset objektiva u ranac i odmah su nosioci Pulicera.

Gargantua wrote:Meni nije jasno da li u Vuhanu i uopšte provinciji važi neki karantin ili ne, i ako ne, kako/zašto nema više slučajeva zaraženih u gradu od 10ak miliona stanovnika? Ili da čekamo još par nedelja/meseci, da se sanitarne mere (zaprašivanja, čišćenja itd) "istroše" pa da virus može ponovo da se masovnije pojavi?

Tj u kojoj je meri Vuhan signal šta će se dešavati.

Translation: Germany is currently not doing post-mortem tests for Coronavirus. That means there could be a significant number of deaths caused by Coronavirus, that is never attributed to Coronavirus and will not show up in any statistic.#coronavirus #covid_19

— Gregory House (@G_House__MD) March 13, 2020

KinderLad wrote:

Nemam sta da citam, video sam ih bar 5 na ulici. Moraju ljudima da ostave neki period od tipa dva sata, ili da po zadnjem broju JMBG podele kojim danima neko moze da izadje na 2-3 sata. I da pomere polic. cas na 22h, nema sanse da se u 20h isprazne ulice. Ili bar da kazu - sedite naredne tri nedelje da vidimo ima li efekta

At least 19 residents of a senior home in Madrid have died from an outbreak of the new coronavirus. According to sources familiar with the situation, ill seniors were not being taken to hospital, and were instead left to die inside the facility: “They’r... https://t.co/UqapZDqQ8z

— El País English Edition (@elpaisinenglish) March 18, 2020