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    zvezda je zivot

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    Post by zvezda je zivot Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:42 pm

    ja se nadam da ce se mreze dogovriti da debate analiziraju iskljucivo strucnjaci za govor tela i strucnjaci za energije jer niko nece slusati sta ova dvojica pricaju niti ce iko to moci da isprati.

    ipak misim da bajden nema sanse u tom duelu. bajdenara ce da muca i da se gubi i gubi zvice a trampara ce da emituje muzjacku energiju. mada ko zna da li to neko gleda da li utice sve je dozvoljno i nista nije moguce.


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    Gargamel

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    Post by Gargamel Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:43 pm

    Djamolidine Abdoujaparov wrote:Gargamele! jesi endorsovao Džoa? a future to believe in - Page 33 1912529702
    hebe mi se i za Sandersa i za Bajdena, obojica su buđavi. navijaću za koga god od njih kontra Trampa.

    Hanter je crna ovca porodice (alkoholičar i narkos) kojoj se pomalo gleda kroz prste, posebno nakon što je stariji sin Bo umro od raka. Bo je navodno bio uzoran lik. nema indikacija da je Bajden gurao Hantera na ovaj ili onaj način, sve su indikacije da se Hanter koristio imenom.

    pri tome... nepotizam baš i nije nešto u čemu je Sanders nešto bolji ili lošiji od drugih.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:53 pm

    nema indikacija da je Bajden gurao Hantera na ovaj ili onaj način, sve su indikacije da se Hanter koristio imenom.

    pri tome... nepotizam baš i nije nešto u čemu je Sanders nešto bolji ili lošiji od drugih.

    puh-lease
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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:31 am

    https://time.com/5799566/bernie-sanders-arts/


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    Post by Mr.Pink Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:35 am

    moze li neko da zamisli bidena ko predsednika, danas? ja iskreno ne mogu

    I dok mu berni ne saopsti tu nelagodnu I neprijatnu istinu u lice, ima da nam bude ovako


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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:25 am



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    Post by Gargamel Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:08 pm

    KinderLad wrote:puh-lease
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-enriched-their-families/607159/
    Sanders put his wife on the Burlington city payroll and made a company of hers, Progressive Media Strategies, a top recipient of campaign cash. His congressional reelection campaigns paid one of his stepdaughters more than $50,000 over four years; a nonprofit his wife started, the Sanders Institute, paid her son, David Driscoll, a $100,000 salary. Biden has a sister and son whose companies received large contracts from his last presidential campaign; about one-fifth of the $11.1 million raised by that campaign went to companies that employed close relatives.
    ...
    The main instance of Sanders paying family members is the close professional ties he has had with his wife, Jane Sanders, for decades. He didn’t have much money before he was elected mayor of Burlington, in a surprise 1981 victory—it was the first full-time job he’d held in years. His first act in office was creating a youth-services department, and he immediately put in charge the woman he’d begun dating at his victory party, giving her a corner office on the third floor of city hall.
    ...
    In 2004, Burlington College hired Jane as its president. While she was in that role, the college entered into a $500,000 contract for student activities with Vermont Woodworking School, which was run by Jane’s daughter Carina Driscoll. The contract ended shortly after Jane left the college, in 2011.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:49 pm

    E sad uporedi cifre. A to i da ne krecemo po inostranstvu.
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    Post by паће Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:53 pm

    Баш да видим како ће 10:1 да се изрелативизује.


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    Post by Gargamel Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:58 pm

    KinderLad wrote:E sad uporedi cifre.
    a future to believe in - Page 33 3579118792

    "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?"
    "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "
    "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"
    "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!"
    "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price”
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    Post by nalog sa ženinog laptopa Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:58 pm

    KinderLad wrote:E sad uporedi cifre. A to i da ne krecemo po inostranstvu.

    bitan je princip! nemoj trolovat i terat grgu sa foruma.

    razgovarajmo argumentovano!


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:01 pm

    Gargamel wrote:
    KinderLad wrote:E sad uporedi cifre.
    a future to believe in - Page 33 3579118792

    "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?"
    "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "
    "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"
    "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!"
    "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price”

    Ne

    A drugo, poceo si sa pricom "nije bas sigurno da je Bajden ovoono...".
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:08 pm

    Mr.Pink wrote:moze li neko da zamisli bidena ko predsednika, danas? ja iskreno ne mogu

    Danas? Posle 4 godina Trampa na vlasti ja mogu da zamislim bilo koga (ukljucujuci i komplet likove sa WWE Raw & Smackdown rostera) na celu SAD.
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    Post by Gargamel Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:08 pm

    KinderLad wrote:poceo si sa pricom "nije bas sigurno da je Bajden ovoono...".
    nepotizam za 10K vs nepotizam za 100K vs nepotizam za 1M, pitanje je samo prilike.

    sa Hanterom je slučaj maaalo drugačiji. sve su indikacije da je Bajden otac koji crnoj ovci gleda kroz prste, kao što bi i skoro svaki otac radio. posebno nakon par porodičnih tragedija.
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    Post by Gargamel Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:00 pm

    Serdar_Argic wrote:Gargamele, sta mislis o ovoj zeni kao VP kandidatu:

    Stacey Abrams
    popularna među mnogim demokratama, loš izbor za VP.

    obzirom na bi Bajden (ili Sanders) preuzeo dužnost POTUS-a sa skoro 8 decenija u dupetu, za VP-a je potreban neko ko bi mogao da preuzme dužnost za godinu ili dve. lako moguće da jedan od matoraca neće izdržati dugo. Abrams nema potrebno iskustvo.

    pride je pomalo rizičan izbor za izbornog partnera. na saveznom nivou je potpuno nepoznata. izgubila na izborima i zakukala kako je u pitanju krađa, što je jako loš PR među ne-demokratama.
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    Post by Gargamel Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:06 pm

    William Murderface wrote:Ne razumes. Mora tako. To je ta neka realnost. Shvatices kad izadjes iz levicarske adolescencije postanes ozbiljam i zreo liberal, kao Gargamel.
    https://creativeconflictwisdom.wordpress.com/2017/12/30/how-to-be-a-conservative-liberal-socialist-by-leszek-kolakowski/
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:15 pm

    Gargamel wrote:
    Serdar_Argic wrote:Gargamele, sta mislis o ovoj zeni kao VP kandidatu:

    Stacey Abrams
    popularna među mnogim demokratama, loš izbor za VP.

    obzirom na bi Bajden (ili Sanders) preuzeo dužnost POTUS-a sa skoro 8 decenija u dupetu, za VP-a je potreban neko ko bi mogao da preuzme dužnost za godinu ili dve. lako moguće da jedan od matoraca neće izdržati dugo. Abrams nema potrebno iskustvo.

    pride je pomalo rizičan izbor za izbornog partnera. na saveznom nivou je potpuno nepoznata. izgubila na izborima i zakukala kako je u pitanju krađa, što je jako loš PR među ne-demokratama.
    Ja imam jednu teoriju koja nece zvucati dobro ne-Amerikancima, ali mislim da ces ti razumeti. Stacey naprosto nije dovoljno fotogenicna za vipija. Siroka, zdepasta, ruzna. Ako bas traze zenu + minority, Misel Obama bi u tom kontekstu bila bolji izbor. Simbolicno, ona je kontinuitet Obamine politike (na sta Bajden ionako igra). Za razliku od Stacey, poznata je svima plus je fotogenicna. Za razliku od Hilari, nije imala kontroverzne izjave i nastupe.
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    Post by Gargamel Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:21 pm

    Serdar_Argic wrote:Ja imam jednu teoriju koja nece zvucati dobro ne-Amerikancima, ali mislim da ces ti razumeti. Stacey naprosto nije dovoljno fotogenicna za vipija. Siroka, zdepasta, ruzna.
    ne bih išao toliko daleko sa "ružna", više je stereotip koji bi republikanci gurali: angry black woman. rizično.

    Mišel Obama bi bila nastavak neslavne Buš-Klinton tradicije porodičnih dinastija.


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    Post by Bluberi Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:22 pm

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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:24 pm

    Nisam gledao Stacey uzivo, ne znam da li zvuci kao angry black woman. Ne mogu to iz teksta da naslutim. 

    Ne mislim da bi za Misel "porodicna dinastija" bila minus, ona bi bila vipi, ne predsednik.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:25 pm

    Gargamel wrote:
    KinderLad wrote:poceo si sa pricom "nije bas sigurno da je Bajden ovoono...".
    nepotizam za 10K vs nepotizam za 100K vs nepotizam za 1M, pitanje je samo prilike.

    sa Hanterom je slučaj maaalo drugačiji. sve su indikacije da je Bajden otac koji crnoj ovci gleda kroz prste, kao što bi i skoro svaki o7tac radio. posebno nakon par porodičnih tragedija.

    Ne, gledaj, tu pricu svi su isti si imao (i ceo dem est i medijski)pre 4 godine, identicnu. Rezultat je da sad imamo ovu budalu u najvaznijoj zemlji sveta u najkriticnijem momentu sveta od ww2.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:26 pm

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    Post by Gargamel Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:28 pm

    Serdar_Argic wrote:Nisam gledao Stacey uzivo, ne znam da li zvuci kao angry black woman. Ne mogu to iz teksta da naslutim. 

    Ne mislim da bi za Misel "porodicna dinastija" bila minus, ona bi bila vipi, ne predsednik.
    meni Abrams ne zvuči besno, ali ja nisam ciljna grupa. ja ću svakako glasati kontra Trampa. kukala kako je pokradena na izborima, našli bi joj nešto gde se ljuti i galami.

    Mišel kao VP Bajdenu/Sandersu bi imala odlične šanse na izborima 2024-e. možda neloša varijanta na izborima, ali bi dobro bilo da se prekine s time.
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    Post by Bluberi Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:30 pm

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:32 pm

    Ma nece odustati. I ne treba. Ali je mnogo fin. Teeba u debati da potpuno demaskira Bajdena kao potpuno neizvesnog kandidata. Sto i jeste. Ali nece to uraditi.

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