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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:34 am

    I oni podlegli panici, budale
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:36 am

    Po nekim vestima čini se da u J. Koreji teški slučajevi sve češće umiru u kućnoj izolaciji čekajući da se oslobodi neki krevet. Virus - Page 22 1949538119
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    Post by паће Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:17 am

    Papa Lazarou wrote:Virus - Page 22 3579118792

    a ovo sa testiranjem u SAD postaje bizarno. onog dana kad počnu masovno testiranje, imaće verovatno odjednom par hiljada slučajeva i neće uopšte biti moguće objasniti javnosti da to nije nagli porast obolelih već proširenje kriterijuma za testiranje. berza će tog dana otići u majčinu. prilično je jasno da je ovo odugovlačenje, ma koliko da je posledica neorganizovanosti i nedostatka novca, ujedno i politička odluka. ali što više čekaju, biće im gore kada budu počeli da objavljuju brojke.

    Ако си ти могао да погодиш одлазак берзе у мајчину, шта мислиш откад то знају професионалци на берзи? И колика је вероватноћа да нису никако утицали на темпирање вести?


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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:22 am

    Mislim da znatno preuveličavaš sposobnosti tog sistema za organizovanu manipulaciju. Tamo se ne zna koj pije a koj plaća.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:27 am

    Izgleda ove sezone bez Formule 1. Otkazao Katar, pa i Tajland
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    Post by паће Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:41 am

    Papa Lazarou wrote:Mislim da znatno preuveličavaš sposobnosti tog sistema za organizovanu manipulaciju. Tamo se ne zna koj pije a koj plaća.

    Не мислим на систем, система нема, него на појединачни дил два-три играча, од којих 1 пуком игром случаја, уз пиће, прича другој двојици како ће морати да изда саопштење. Ова друга двојица наручују још једно пиће и убрзано типкају по телефонима. Онда крену да га убеђују да ипак поразмисли и сачека још један дан.


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    Post by rumbeando Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:31 pm

    U J. Koreji hospitalizovana je svega trećina potvrđenih slučajeva.

    Confirmed today, there were 4 more deaths, bringing South Korea's death toll now to 26.
    What's saddening is that 4 of the recent deaths were of those who'd been waiting to be hospitalized.
    According to the health authorities, out of nearly 31-hundred confirmed patients, only about 1-thousand are hospitalized.
    The rest are isolating themselves.
    https://www.arirang.com/news/News_View.asp?nseq=253509

    Kanal Arirang je južnokorejski ekvivalent Deutsche Wellea, tako da je informacija pouzdana.
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    Post by boomer crook Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:52 pm

    rumbeando wrote:U J. Koreji hospitalizovana je svega trećina potvrđenih slučajeva.

    Confirmed today, there were 4 more deaths, bringing South Korea's death toll now to 26.
    What's saddening is that 4 of the recent deaths were of those who'd been waiting to be hospitalized.
    According to the health authorities, out of nearly 31-hundred confirmed patients, only about 1-thousand are hospitalized.
    The rest are isolating themselves.
    https://www.arirang.com/news/News_View.asp?nseq=253509

    Kanal Arirang je južnokorejski ekvivalent Deutsche Wellea, tako da je informacija pouzdana.

    ja nisam ekspert za j. koreju. mislim cirajkovicevski jezikom proveo sam tamo dve nedelje ali ono sto mogu da primetim da je to zemlja cija se nebriga za ljudski zivot pomalo granici sa severnim bratom.

    moguce je da sam neki orijentalista ili sta li vec, no ko nije neka se hitne kimcijem na mene.


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    Post by beatakeshi Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:59 pm

    Samo na osnovu dvadesetak filmova čini mi se da pojam surovost prilično dobro opisuje njihovo društvo.
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:12 pm

    U poslednjih nedelju dana virus se proširio na 38 novih država.

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    Broj zaraženih van Kine u periodu 23.2-1.3. porastao je 4,2 puta, sa 2048 na 8555. Ako se nastavi ovim tempom, a na grafiku nije vidljivo neko usporavanje, sredinom marta ako ne i nešto pre biće ih preko 100.000.

    Trenutne stope smrtnosti u odnosu na ukupan broj zaraženih u procentima:

    Iran 4,4
    Kina 3,6
    Francuska 3,1
    Italija 2,5
    SAD 2,2
    Japan 2,2
    Južna Koreja 0,47
    Nemačka 0 (na 150 slučajeva)
    Španija 0 (na 114 slučajeva)
    Kanada 0 (na 24 slučaja)

    Izvor: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z7VQ5xlf3BaTx_LBBblsW4hLoGYWnZyog3jqsS9Dbgc/edit#gid=648547189
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:04 pm

    Evropski parlament se zatvara na 3 nedelje.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:20 pm

    U Americ očekivan slom sistema. Šest mrtvih od korone samo u jednoj bolnici, mitski CDC otkazao najavljenu konferenciju za štampu i obustavio brojanje testiranih na sajtu. Ide teorija da čekaju da se zatvori berza.
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    Post by kondo Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:05 pm

    hehe, pustite migrante u evropu da pomru mesto evropljana


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    Post by boomer crook Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:36 pm

    the Dow surging nearly 1,300 points, or more than 5 percent, on hopes that central banks will act to shelter the global economy from the effects of the coronavirus outbreak.


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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:39 pm

    Da da. 
    Zato Pence i onaj njegov prirepak idu po Americi i gaguju ljude.
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    Post by MNE Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:47 pm

    rumbeando wrote:U poslednjih nedelju dana virus se proširio na 38 novih država.

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    Broj zaraženih van Kine u periodu 23.2-1.3. porastao je 4,2 puta, sa 2048 na 8555. Ako se nastavi ovim tempom, a na grafiku nije vidljivo neko usporavanje, sredinom marta ako ne i nešto pre biće ih preko 100.000.

    Trenutne stope smrtnosti u odnosu na ukupan broj zaraženih u procentima:

    Iran 4,4
    Kina 3,6
    Francuska 3,1
    Italija 2,5
    SAD 2,2
    Japan 2,2
    Južna Koreja 0,47
    Nemačka 0 (na 150 slučajeva)

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    Post by rumbeando Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:48 am

    Less than 1 per cent of doctors feel that the NHS is “well prepared” for the new coronavirus, according to a new poll.

    Eight out of the 1,618 respondents said they believed the health service was ready to deal with an outbreak when asked by The Doctors’ Association UK (DAUK), despite the prime minister’s insistence that the NHS will cope if it is hit by a surge in the number of people falling ill.

    Common concerns included difficulties coping with increased demand, a shortage of beds and poor staffing levels, according to the group who led the poll.

    Some doctors asked said they were worried that there could be not enough laboratory space to do testing in the case of a pandemic.

    Others claimed that NHS 111 had been giving out “inappropriate advice” to go to A&E and GP practices, according to DAUK.

    “The NHS has already been brought to its knees and many frontline doctors fear that our health system simply will not cope in the event of a Coronavirus (Covid-19) outbreak,” Dr Rinesh Parmar, the DAUK chair, said.

    “Many hoped the threat of Covid-19 would prompt an honest conversation to address the issue of critical care capacity and our ability to look after our sickest patients. By simply saying ‘the NHS is well prepared to deal with coronovirus’ it seems that yet again doctors’ concerns have been brushed under the carpet.”
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-doctors-uk-nhs-hospitals-outbreak-preparations-a9370986.html

    Obrće se igrica, sad će stranci da sede u Kini u karantinu dve nedelje. Zasad mera ne važi u celoj Kini i za sve strance, ali polako.

    Travellers from countries with severe coronavirus outbreaks who arrive in southern China will have to undergo a 14-day quarantine, state media say.

    Shanghai will also ask new arrivals from countries with "relatively serious virus conditions" to be isolated.

    Beijing is worried the virus might be imported back into the country. Numbers of newly infected in China are falling.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51718614
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:07 am

    Zaplakaće mnoge prodavnice hrane okolo. To je, i dalje, onaj side-effect ovoga kojeg se najvise plasim.I naravno, nisu oni jedini
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    Post by kondo Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:19 am

    ne dramite prezivecemo a neki ce i da umru


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    Post by rumbeando Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:20 am

    Saudijci konačno prestali da se prave blesavi.

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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:48 am

    European Nations Diverge on How to Curb Virus Outbreak

    Governments struggle to find the right balance between protecting public health and shielding the economy from disruption



    European governments are divided in their response to the coronavirus, which has rapidly hopped across borders on the densely populated continent, as they seek to balance protecting public health with economic disruption.

    Countries including Italy, France, Britain and Switzerland have taken an aggressive approach, banning large events and ordering large-scale blanket screenings. Germany, Austria, Spain and most Scandinavian countries, on the other hand, have stressed the need for moderation to limit the impact of the disease—and of the response—on society and the economy.

    The different approaches highlight the difficulty in coordinating a crisis-management system on a continent where political borders offer little barrier to the spread of the virus. They also expose anxiety among Europe’s leaders that the economic impact of the epidemic could turn a lingering downturn into a full-blown recession.

    Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel said over the weekend that Europe’s most populous nation and its biggest economy would be measured and moderate in its response. Germany has reported around 160 infections.

    “We must not allow for this virus to damage or ruin the economic upturn that has just emerged on the horizon,” Economy Minister Peter Altmaier said Monday.


    Ms. Merkel and her Austrian counterpart Sebastian Kurz agreed during a phone call last week to avoid border closures or any steps that would interrupt supply chains and adversely affect business, said people familiar with the talks.

    And while Italy has announced measures to cushion the economic impact of the epidemic in the country’s economically strong northern region, the location of Europe’s worst outbreak so far, officials in Berlin and Vienna said they weren’t now planning any fiscal stimulus.

    The novelty of the virus means governments have largely improvised their responses. Still, the World Health Organization has praised China’s draconian response to the virus. After the outbreak started there, Beijing sealed off entire regions and millions of people were put under lockdown—hitting the local and global economy hard.

    The WHO’s recommendation for affected countries has been to trigger the top general health alert level and test all patients with atypical pneumonias for the presence of the virus. While about 80% of novel coronavirus patients only experience mild discomfort, others can develop severe respiratory problems and organ failure.

    Germany, Austria and other countries haven’t followed up on those guidelines, nor have they banned large public events or ordered mass closures of schools and kindergartens. Germany set its alert level to “moderate” on Monday. It and others have limited testing to people with symptoms who had traveled to affected areas or had contact with infected individuals. People with severe influenza symptoms have occasionally been tested.

    On Monday, the German government servers hosting information about the virus became overloaded and hotlines clogged. Many doctors have complained about the absence of guidelines or material support from the country’s regional health authorities—their first resource in an emergency.

    Officials have pushed back against the criticism, saying they had to balance several priorities. “We cannot do what China has done here, as that would start a panic, runs on supermarkets and banks, and any contingency measure has a negative effect on businesses and the real economy,” said a senior German government official involved in the crisis management.

    Christian Drosten, head of the virology department at Berlin’s Charité hospital, the country’s largest, told a press conference on Monday “people die anyway, and at the rate of around 850,000 a year” in Germany.

    Officials in Spain, which had reported 114 patients by Monday night, said it was focused on containing pockets of coronavirus outbreak, but has no plans to cancel public events. Spanish authorities said they may consider temporarily shutting some schools in the Madrid and Basque Country regions and banning public gatherings such as sport events, should the number of infections rise.

    Many cases in Spain have been imported from Italy, said Spanish authorities. For instance, a group of five Italian tourists tested positive in the Canary Islands. About 1,000 people at the hotel where they were staying were put under quarantine last week.

    “Right now in Spain we are maintaining a phase of containment. In this phase, at this time, we are not recommending the suspension of social events,” said Fernando Simón, director of the center for health alerts and emergencies at the Ministry of Health. In particular, he cited planned demonstrations throughout Spain scheduled for International Women’s Day on Sunday March 8.

    By contrast, Italy’s government declared a state of medical emergency on Jan. 31, which gives the central government power to override local authorities. On the same day, Italy banned all direct flights to and from China, the only EU country to do so.

    The measures, however, didn’t prevent Italy from becoming the center of the coronavirus crisis in Europe, with 2,036 people confirmed infected by Monday, according to Italy’s Civil Protection Agency. Of those, 52 have died and 149 have fully recovered. Italy now has the world’s third-highest number of cases after China and South-Korea.

    Italy has sealed off entire towns in its heavily affected northern region and tested 20,000 people, many with no symptoms. After these blanket tests returned a high percentage of negative results, authorities have adopted a more targeted approach, testing only symptomatic patients.

    In neighboring Switzerland, all events involving over 1,000 participants—including soccer games and political rallies—were banned. The government has summoned a crisis summit for next week with business, unions and local authorities to discuss a possible fiscal and monetary stimulus, according to a government statement.

    France, which has roughly the same number of cases as Germany, has banned all gatherings of over 5,000 people, with some regions barring all public events. To help curb the contagion, the government has advised people to stop shaking hands and abandon the customary greeting of a kiss on the cheek.

    In the U.K., where 40 cases of coronavirus infection have been confirmed, health authorities have tested more than 13,500 people for the virus in an effort to track down potential carriers. The efforts have so far focused on those returning from Asia, Iran and Italy and those who have been in contact with an infected person. At Heathrow Airport, one of the world’s busiest, medical personnel are examining travelers arriving from China for symptoms around the clock.

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Monday chaired a meeting of senior ministers and medical officials to discuss further measures. The government has granted health professionals the legal powers to detain patients at risk of spreading the illness. An information campaign about best practices to slow the transmission is due to roll out within days.

    The U.K. has stopped short of canceling sporting events or other large gatherings for now. Mr. Johnson said Monday people should in most cases go about their business as usual.

    The U.K. government is due to announce further steps to combat the virus Tuesday. They will include encouraging workers to stay at home if possible and drawing up a register of retired healthcare professionals who can be pressed into service if needed, Downing Street said late Monday.

    “It is highly likely coronavirus will spread more widely in the coming days and weeks, which is why we’re making every possible preparation,” Mr. Johnson said in a statement.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/european-nations-diverge-on-how-to-curb-virus-outbreak-11583176995?emailToken=6123ba589fc0c9837ac8d9fd29b394dbgqOdacto8TEBp7LIN46zNaCyAGqRWV/s+4eUomxFmY4SJYb7Q/B2eDPGoPt41rIV2lPYr+IaZk3VJ1Xhr0EiiOhn6Ulk4dBnr6EIPCgRdNAkN4sbNBKy2nTnqKaRHCAV&reflink=article_copyURL_share
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:05 am

    Mislim da je potpuno jasno u koju grupu Srbija spada.

    Tzv. "People die anyway" group

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