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    lalinea

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    Post by lalinea Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:14 am

    Gargantua wrote:@lalinea Virus - Page 20 1949538119 Jel ti beše u Njuci, Švici, ili nešto treće, zaboravio sam?
    Swiss.
    Zbog zastite privatnosti ni interno nije podeljeno vise informacija nego sto se moze naci u medijima, ali to je prica otprilike: putovanje, boravak u ofisu nekoliko dana tokom inkubacije, kasnije potvrda. poenta je da nije kasljao okolo.


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    Post by lalinea Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:38 am

    rumbeando wrote:Samo u sekire, testere su pouzdane.

    Evo malo i optimističnih vesti, Bil Gejts u New England Journal of Medicine:

    Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations is already preparing up to eight promising vaccine candidates for clinical trials. If some of these vaccines prove safe and effective in animal models, they could be ready for larger-scale trials as early as June.
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2003762
    ovde je brza vakcina stvarno jedina nada...


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    rumbeando

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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:38 am

    Jutarnji ima ekskluzivne izjave prvog zaraženog u Hrvatskoj i njegovog nešto kasnije zaraženog blizanca, koji su u Zagrebu u bolnici.

    Neki detalji:

    Izgledalo je pomalo černobilski, smiju se braća.

    - Sanitetsko vozilo, ljudi odjeveni od glave do pete, tako da im se jedva oči vide. Pod mjerama sigurnosti stigao je u Zaraznu. Tu je počela procedura. Upitnik gdje sam bio, mjerenje temperature, vađenje krvi, bris nosa i usta, EKG, rendgen pluća i srca, i za kraj - izolacija do nalaza - kaže i dodaje kako mu nije bilo svejedno.
    ...
    Naime, karantena je ozbiljna. Soba u kojoj boravi zaključana je i gotovo nitko ne ulazi. Sam mjeri temperaturu, razinu kisika u krvi i otkucaje, a osim toga, videonadzorom je pokriven 24 sata. S liječnicima razgovara preko interfona ili mobitelom. Što se samog zdravstvenog stanja tiče, osim temperature koja nije prelazila 38 stupnjeva Celzijevih, nema druge simptome i dobro se osjeća.
    ...
    Proceduru je prošao istu kao i brat. Naravno, i jedan i drugi morali su reći točne rute kretanja, sve kontakte koje su ostvarili, koliko su trajali, a dali su i sva imena osoba s kojima su se susreli.
    ...
    Osoblje koje je u zaštitnim odijelima otključa sobu, ostavi hranu i udalji se. Oni uzimaju hranu, opet ih zaključaju.

    Pribor je od plastike tako da ga ne moraju vraćati nego se odbacuje u posebne kante za smeće.

    - Iako je novi virus u pitanju, ako sve bude u redu, a prema svemu sudeći hoće, mi bismo mogli biti otpušteni za pet ili šest dana - govore.

    Tretmanom u bolnici su prezadovoljni. Kažu kako vide da su poduzete sve mjere zaštite te kako svi tamo rade s maksimalnom ljubavi i pažnjom. Osim nadležnih liječnika, kontaktira ih i ravnateljica, zbog čega zahvaljuju svima u bolnici, ali i prijateljima i kolegama na porukama podrške.

    https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/ekskluzivno-ispovijest-blizanaca-iz-karantene-zajedno-smo-u-sobi-osjecamo-se-dobro-imamo-svu-brigu-i-zastitu/10023082/

    Na pitanje gdje je sanitarni čvor, jer se ne vidi na fotografiji, kažu nalazi se unutar sobe.

    I tu imamo protokol. Prije obavljanja nužde moramo uliti neko sredstvo, a nakon obavljanja nužde moramo pričekati deset minuta prije puštanja vode. To je mjera sigurnosti da virus ne uđe u kanalizaciju - objašnjavaju.

    Nekoliko čitatelja je postavilo pitanje otvaraju li prozor. Na to odgovaraju da ne smiju i da im ne pada na pamet takvo nešto napraviti.

    - Naravno da slušamo sve upute i da ne radimo ništa na svoju ruku, tako da nema bojazni da ćemo otvoriti prozor. Jedini doticaj sa svježim zrakom je kada dobijemo ručak kada na par sekundi otvorimo vrata, onoliko koliko treba da se uzme tanjur - kažu.

    https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/hvala-vam-sto-se-vise-ne-osjecamo-kao-drzavni-neprijatelji-zarazeni-blizanci-kako-jutro-odmice-malo-nam-raste-temperatura-ali-osjecamo-se-dobro/10024168/
    rumbeando

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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:09 pm

    U sve naše pisane preporuke stavit ćemo da preporučamo da se u ovom periodu trajanja epidemije ljudi ne rukuju. Korištenje POS uređaja može biti jedan od elemenata kako bi se bolest mogla prenijeti, preporučamo građanima da peru ruke nakon korištenja, a trgovcima da koriste dezinfekcijsko sredstvo na POS uređajima - rekao je [ravnatelj Hrvatskog zavoda za javno zdravstvo Krunoslav Capak].
    https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/potvrden-sesti-slucaj-zaraze-koronavirusom-u-hrvatskoj-ministar-vili-beros-rijec-je-o-pacijentu-u-rijeci-bliskom-kontaktu-treceg-oboljeloga/10032670/
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:23 pm



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    Post by Nino Quincampoix Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:36 pm

    Lol jutros samo nisu otvorili Luvr zbog virusa.
    bela maca

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    Post by bela maca Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:00 pm

    Ja ću ovaj virus shvatiti kao poruku od planete.

    Coronavirus: Nasa images show China pollution clear amid slowdown
    29 February 2020

    Satellite images have shown a dramatic decline in pollution levels over China, which is "at least partly" due to an economic slowdown prompted by the coronavirus, US space agency Nasa says.

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    Nasa maps show falling levels of nitrogen dioxide this year.

    It comes amid record declines in China's factory activity as manufacturers stop work in a bid to contain coronavirus.

    China has recorded nearly 80,000 cases of the virus since the outbreak began.

    It has spread to more than 50 countries but the vast majority of infections and deaths are in China, where the virus originated late last year.

    Nasa scientists said the reduction in levels of nitrogen dioxide - a noxious gas emitted by motor vehicles and industrial facilities - was first apparent near the source of the outbreak in Wuhan city but then spread across the country.

    Nasa compared the first two months of 2019 with the same period this year.

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    The space agency noted that the decline in air pollution levels coincided with restriction imposed on transportation and business activities, and as millions of people went into quarantine.

    "This is the first time I have seen such a dramatic drop-off over such a wide area for a specific event," Fei Liu, an air quality researcher at Nasa's Goddard Space Flight Center, said in a statement.

    She added that she had observed a decline in nitrogen dioxide levels during the economic recession in 2008, but said that decrease was more gradual.

    Nasa noted that China's Lunar New Year celebrations in late January and early February have been linked to decreases in pollution levels in the past. But it said they normally increase once the celebrations are over.

    "This year, the reduction rate is more significant than in past years and it has lasted longer," Ms Liu said.

    "I am not surprised because many cities nationwide have taken measures to minimise spread of the virus."


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    rumbeando

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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:12 pm

    Ozbiljne mere moraju da se preduzimaju.

    A memo seen by The Sun last night states that the “reasonable worst case” involves “up to 80 per cent of the population being infected”.

    The document by the National Security Communications Team warns: “The current planning assumption is that 2-3 per cent of symptomatic cases will result in a ­fatality.”

    Around half a million Brits — mostly the elderly or those with pre-existing illnesses — would be killed under this scenario, according to health sources.

    The figures are in a “sensitive” government report called “Covid-19 Reasonable Worst Case Scenario”.

    It predicts infection rates will snowball for two to three months once the bug starts spreading.

    A government spokesman said every eventuality had to be planned for but warned “this does not mean we expect it to happen”.

    Experts estimate a major outbreak may see more than two million people in hospital — crippling the NHS.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11041657/coronavirus-could-kill-500000-brits/
    Sotir

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    Post by Sotir Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:23 pm

    Ово што су урадили у Кини је неизводљиво у другим земљама. Толико ресурса другде једноставно немају.
    Плус што могу да затворе целе градове и пола индустрије. 
     
    Било где другде да се запати вирус биће далеко горе ако се прошири.
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    Post by disident Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:27 pm

    Mozda je najbolje da zapatis virus prvi, posebna oprema, krevet, najbolja nega kao kod ovog hrvata, posle kad krene haos i gužva ima da dobiješ ćebe na podu doma zdravlja da umres dostojanstveno #strategija


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    Post by ♏ Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:28 pm

    Reasonable precautions na stranu (slažem se da je worst case solidna frka), hajde da ne prenosimo The Sun kad citira neimenovane izvore.
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    Post by boomer crook Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:29 pm

    bas sam to hteo napisati al me strah da ne budem kondo.


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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:29 pm

    bela maca wrote:Ja ću ovaj virus shvatiti kao poruku od planete.

    Coronavirus: Nasa images show China pollution clear amid slowdown
    29 February 2020

    Satellite images have shown a dramatic decline in pollution levels over China, which is "at least partly" due to an economic slowdown prompted by the coronavirus, US space agency Nasa says.

    Virus - Page 20 _111089478_china_trop_2020056
    Nasa maps show falling levels of nitrogen dioxide this year.

    It comes amid record declines in China's factory activity as manufacturers stop work in a bid to contain coronavirus.

    China has recorded nearly 80,000 cases of the virus since the outbreak began.

    It has spread to more than 50 countries but the vast majority of infections and deaths are in China, where the virus originated late last year.

    Nasa scientists said the reduction in levels of nitrogen dioxide - a noxious gas emitted by motor vehicles and industrial facilities - was first apparent near the source of the outbreak in Wuhan city but then spread across the country.

    Nasa compared the first two months of 2019 with the same period this year.

    Virus - Page 20 _111089470_wuhan_trop_2020056
    Image copyrightNASA
    The space agency noted that the decline in air pollution levels coincided with restriction imposed on transportation and business activities, and as millions of people went into quarantine.

    "This is the first time I have seen such a dramatic drop-off over such a wide area for a specific event," Fei Liu, an air quality researcher at Nasa's Goddard Space Flight Center, said in a statement.

    She added that she had observed a decline in nitrogen dioxide levels during the economic recession in 2008, but said that decrease was more gradual.

    Nasa noted that China's Lunar New Year celebrations in late January and early February have been linked to decreases in pollution levels in the past. But it said they normally increase once the celebrations are over.

    "This year, the reduction rate is more significant than in past years and it has lasted longer," Ms Liu said.

    "I am not surprised because many cities nationwide have taken measures to minimise spread of the virus."

    "Nećemo mi ubiti planetu nego ona nas"
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:43 pm

    Brzina širenja u Italiji, Južnoj Koreji i Iranu je veoma zabrinjavajuća.

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    Italijani su muljali sa statistikom poslednjih dana, zato ovaj plato na kraju koji po svoj prilici neće dugo potrajati).

    Izvor: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z7VQ5xlf3BaTx_LBBblsW4hLoGYWnZyog3jqsS9Dbgc/htmlview?sle=true#
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    Post by kapetanm Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:42 pm

    Šta biva u Rusiji i Indiji? Tamo kao nema?
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    Post by kondo Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:48 pm

    kondo je na vreme rekao - iran. ima ispod posta vise dodatnih info.



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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:01 pm

    ♏ wrote:hajde da ne prenosimo The Sun kad citira neimenovane izvore.

    Prenele su i ozbiljnije novine, npr. Telegraph i Independent, a niko nije demantovao u međuvremenu iako su razni tražili izjave.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-latest-italy-uk-china-tenerife-death-toll/
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-latest-deaths-uk-infection-flu-a9360271.html
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:04 pm

    Naravno da planiraju sve moguće ishode.
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    Post by disident Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:07 pm

    Kondo wrote:kondo je na vreme rekao - iran. ima ispod posta vise dodatnih info.

    Video sam taj rhred ali mi izgleda malo neuravnotezeno, od potpunog raspada do nekih umerenijih infoa kasnije. U svakom slucaju to razboljevanje vrha drzave ne ide u korist nijednom rezimu.


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    Post by паће Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:16 pm

    Осим ако већ немају спремне млађе и дрчније, па се ово искористи као прилика за тиху смену власти.


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    Post by kondo Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:21 pm

    ne verujem, jedna od najodvratnijih drzava na svetu. zamislite ovu celu našu ekipu sa 65+ umesto 40+...


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    Post by паће Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:24 pm

    Тим боља мотивација млађем тиму са клупе да стекне околности где и како треба.


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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:44 pm

    Na Infektivno odeljenje kraljevačke Opšte bolnice oko podneva je preventivno smešten pedesettrogodišnji K. M. iz Studenice.

    Direktor kraljevačke bolnice dr Zoran Mrvić rekao je za RTS da K. M. ima simptome slične simptomima koronavirusa.

    “Pacijent je došao iz Italije sa temperaturom. Urađeni su mu brisevi i sve neophodne analize poslate su već na ‘Torlak’, a rezultate očekujemo već večeras”, rekao je dr Mrvić.

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