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    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:18 pm

    Ma taj je ionako samo sluzio da skuplja ribe. Sad vise ne sluzi nicemu
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    Post by Gargamel Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:43 pm

    zvezda je zivot wrote:...
    I love facts! I love the internet! a future to believe in - Page 15 2460015778

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-22/sanders-biden-battle-over-who-will-best-protect-social-security?sref=hLa6oT27
    Bernie Sanders is locked in an escalating feud with Joe Biden over whether the former vice president has advocated cutting Social Security, a program considered sacrosanct by many Democrats. But Sanders himself once used language that was very similar to Biden’s to describe the need to bolster the federal retirement program.

    While running for re-election in 1996, then-Congressman Sanders said at a news conference that the Social Security system had “been adjusted before, and adjustments will have to be made again.” The Sanders campaign has assailed Biden for saying Social Security was in need of “adjustments” in a 2018 speech, with Chief Policy Adviser Warren Gunnels on Wednesday quoting an interest group saying the term was a “euphemism” for cuts.



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    šalu na stranu, Sanders pokušava da nabedi Bajdena citatima kojima fali kontekst. verovatno je to slučaj i sa ovim citiranjem Sandersa. a future to believe in - Page 15 2932922325


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:50 pm

    adjustments mogu da idu i gore i dole, nije bas precizno
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    Post by Gargamel Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:53 pm

    ^naravno, ali to nije ono što je rekao Sandersov savetnik (videti i moj edit gore). a future to believe in - Page 15 1233199462

    The Sanders campaign has assailed Biden for saying Social Security was in need of “adjustments” in a 2018 speech, with Chief Policy Adviser Warren Gunnels on Wednesday quoting an interest group saying the term was a “euphemism” for cuts.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:56 pm

    Nije to i dalje jasno
    Летећи Полип

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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:15 am

    https://spectator.us/bernie-sanders-doesnt-want-win/


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    Post by boomer crook Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:02 pm

    bernie, kao i corbyn, igra kako je jedino moguce. on mora da ima podrsku demokrata kako bi uspeo i za razliku od trampa koji je zapravo odmah nakon nominacije usao u kolaboraciju sa GOP establismentom on se moze suociti sa ljudima koji zaista zele jos 4 godine GOP-a radje nego da izgube kontrolu nad strankom.


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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:14 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:bernie, kao i corbyn, igra kako je jedino moguce. on mora da ima podrsku demokrata kako bi uspeo i za razliku od trampa koji je zapravo odmah nakon nominacije usao u kolaboraciju sa GOP establismentom on se moze suociti sa ljudima koji zaista zele jos 4 godine GOP-a radje nego da izgube kontrolu nad strankom.


    Gde? Kad? Kako je izgledala ta povratna podrška od strane GOP establišmenta?


    Uostalom, sa čime se suočava globalna levica, a da to ne važi i za populističku desnicu?


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    Post by Erős Pista Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:22 pm

    Pa sa time sto hoce da uzme pare od bogatih, dok popzlisticka desnica nece. 

    Trampa je na kraju podrzao prakticno ceo GOP estsblisment minus Mekejn, a zasto i ne bi kad im radi poso.


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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:32 pm

    Ama koja podrška. Lik je imao pola milijarde budžeta za kampanju, naspram Hilarinih milijardu i po, Na GOP medijima bila veća tuga nego na demokratskim. Tramp i mejnstrim republikanci se zbližavaju tek nakon odlaska Benona i onog velikog rezanja poreza.

    Nemoj sad da izmišljate istoriju da bi pravdali Sandersovu metiljavost.


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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:51 pm




    Đimi mu naravno ne oprašta.


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    Post by zvezda je zivot Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:00 pm

    velika greska u bernijevoj kampanji sto su njegovi ljudi danima gurali taj (potpuno tacan) clanak a onda se izvinili. to je diletantizam i ne moze da se opravdava.

    korbin nije narocito talentovan politicar koji je ceo zivot bio protest politican za razliku od bernija, situacije u uk i us su vrlo razlicite, i ne znam sta on trazi ovde.


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    Post by boomer crook Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:04 pm

    Летећи Полип wrote:Ama koja podrška. Lik je imao pola milijarde budžeta za kampanju, naspram Hilarinih milijardu i po, Na GOP medijima bila veća tuga nego na demokratskim. Tramp i mejnstrim republikanci se zbližavaju tek nakon odlaska Benona i onog velikog rezanja poreza.

    Nemoj sad da izmišljate istoriju da bi pravdali Sandersovu metiljavost.

    aman svi su legli na rudu. naravno da vise mrze hilari nego trampa.


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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:21 pm

    brt sad je metiljav političar u Americi koji u preds. kampanji kaže billionaires shouldn't exist a future to believe in - Page 15 3204619380

    ali ajde, kad se zoveš Stiven Miler, sve manje od imitiranja protivkandidata kako kolje čoveka je soy boy pičkastost.
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    Post by zvezda je zivot Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:43 pm

    ajova je najvaznija, ali ni ovo nije lose za kampanju koja pokusava da izgubi



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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:26 pm



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    zvezda je zivot

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    Post by zvezda je zivot Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:05 pm

    ovako bih ja rangiro kandidate po nekim mojim zeljama:

    berni

    jang
    stajer

    tulsi
    voren
    blumberg
    ejmi klobi
    mejo pit
    bajden

    mozda tulsi ubacim u tier 2 jer mnogo nervira ljude


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    Post by Zuper Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:40 pm

    Obi van Kenobi i Bred Pit
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    Post by Somlói Galuska Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:00 am

    Nil jang će glasati na izborima
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    Post by zvezda je zivot Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:17 am

    kad smo kod nila janga, poslednji spot pred ajovu 2016. godine (izbacen 21. januara 2016.) je onaj divan u kojem ide america sajmona i garfankla. to je visok standard i sad ako misli da pobedi moze samo dilan (ili eventualno boys are back in town ako hoce u tom stilu). pojavio se pre desetak dana poluzvanicni bernijev spot s obradom the times they are a changin, ali samo originali se racunaju.


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    Post by Somlói Galuska Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:29 am

    Sad sam pogledao taj spot, baš majstorski su ga napržili.


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    Post by Nino Quincampoix Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:36 am

    Meni je Ira Wolf - Pictures on the Wall sto posto soundtrack za Bernija.
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    Post by Janko Suvar Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:29 am

    To sto Jang (Endru ne Nil) predlaze nije onaj UBI koji levicari zamisljaju. Taj njegov dolazi umesto postojecih welfare programa,a ne dopunjuje ih i finansirao bi se PDVom. To je jako losa ideja.


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    Post by zvezda je zivot Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:32 am

    ma znam, samo mi kul ko lik.



    al je simpatican i nije gul


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