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    Post by Nino Quincampoix Mon May 27, 2019 3:00 pm

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    Post by Guest Mon May 27, 2019 3:03 pm

    Quincy Endicott wrote:Et Kripi

    Da ako pričamo o Americi. U Evropi država pregovara o ceni lekova sa farmaceutskim kompanijama. To je uglavnom dobro, jer moć države kao onoga koji plaća za sve (skoro sve) dovodi do toga da su ispregovarane cene lekova razumne. Sa druge strane, baš zato što država plaća postoje i veoma komplikovane cost/benefit analize koje mogu dovesti do toga da baš skupi lekovi ne uđu u državni zdravstveni sistem.

    Najveći problem trenutno u farmaceutskoj industriji je attrition rate, jer 90% lekova koji se razvijaju i testiraju ne dođu na tržište, što znači da oni koji prođu moraju da pokriju sve troškove i obezbede profit za investitore (a profit margins u PI su standardno i bezobrazno visoko podignute).

    U pravu si, s tim što je ova cena takođe ispregovarana u Evropi. Novartis je sprva ludovao sa 5 miliona dolara po dozi, a cost/benefit analiza je pokazala da će preživeti i sa ovom cenom. Pre nekoliko godina ušao je u upotrebu lek za neku drugu boljku, po ceni od milion za dozu. Nekako je došlo do toga da je lek primenjen na samo jednom pacijentu - jednostavno nije došlo do željene sinergije koja bi omogućila uvođenje leka u protokole osiguravajućih kuća.

    Na stranu šta mislim o samom sistemu koji je u osnovi ovakve distribucije lekova, ovo su sad dečje bolesti genetske terapije. Ona će pojeftiniti, a društvo će se navići na to da postoji lek koji košta puno, ali bolest otklanja odmah i zauvek posle samo jedne doze.
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    Post by Sotir Mon May 27, 2019 3:10 pm

    паће wrote:А ПИ је, Дуњићу, шта? Kapitalizam 101 - Page 8 3402243210 :паће:
    Private Investigator. Kapitalizam 101 - Page 8 2304934895
    Ниси гледао Магнума?
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    Post by паће Tue May 28, 2019 1:09 am

    Sotir wrote:
    паће wrote:А ПИ је, Дуњићу, шта? Kapitalizam 101 - Page 8 3402243210 :паће:
    Private Investigator. Kapitalizam 101 - Page 8 2304934895
    Ниси гледао Магнума?

    На то сам прво помислио.
    Гледао сам неке друге раније. За ликове са таквим фетишом никад не бих одвојио време.


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    Post by паће Fri May 31, 2019 1:44 am

    Чуо сам причу о лику који је, кад је узео кредитну картицу, прво прочитао уговор и у њему ситна слова. Што му се није свидео, па је направио своју верзију уговора са својим ситним словима, где банка не сме да ради неких педесет ствари које иначе даје себи за право, и има дебеле казне да му плаћа ако уради било шта од тога. Ту је верзију потписао и дао банци, потписали и они и све било у реду неколико година. Онда он нешто упао у доцњу, они кренули да му скидају паре на име казне и којекаквих тарифа, а он пресавије табак, тужи их и добије, гаће им је скинуо. Није прихваћена одбрана банке "нисмо прочитали уговор".


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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:15 am

    Evo ovde. Obrisi ovoga se itekako pojavljuju na ovim prostorima, npr špekulativni kapital i kapital koji nema gde drugo da ode, koji drže tržište nekretnina

    https://www.monbiot.com/2019/06/12/landfall/


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    What is the most neglected issue in British politics? I would say land. Literally and metaphorically, land underlies our lives, but its ownership and control have been captured by a tiny number of people. The results include soaring inequality and exclusion; the massive cost of renting or buying a decent home; the collapse of wildlife and ecosystems; repeated financial crises and the loss of public space. Yet for 70 years this crucial issue has scarcely featured in political discussions.

    Today, I hope, this changes, with the publication of the report to the Labour Party – Land for the Many – that I’ve written with six experts in the field. Our aim is to put this neglected issue where it belongs: at the heart of political debate and discussion.

    Since 1995, land values in this country have risen 412%. Land now accounts for an astonishing 51% of the UK’s net worth. Why? In large part because successive governments have used tax exemptions and other advantages to turn the ground beneath our feet into a speculative money machine. A report published this week by Tax Justice UK reveals that, through owning agricultural land, 261 rich families escaped £208m in inheritance tax in 2015-16. Because farmland is used as a tax shelter, farmers are being priced out. In 2011, farmers bought 60% of the land on the market; by 2017 this had fallen to 40%.

    Worse still, when planning permission is granted on agricultural land, its value can rise 250-fold. Though this jackpot was created by society, the owner gets to keep most of it. We pay for this vast inflation in land values through outrageous rents and mortgages. Capital gains tax is lower than income tax, and council tax is proportionately more expensive for the poor than for the rich. As a result of such giveaways, and the amazing opacity of the system, land in the UK has become a magnet for international criminals seeking to launder their money.

    We pay for these distortions every day. Homes have become so expensive not because the price of bricks and mortar has risen, but because the land that underlies them now accounts for 70% of their price. Twenty years ago, the average working family needed to save for three years to afford a deposit. Today, it must save for 19 years. Life is even worse for renters. While housing costs swallow 12% of average household incomes for people with mortgages, renters pay 36%.

    Because we hear so little about the underlying issues, we blame the wrong causes for the cost and scarcity of housing: immigration, population growth, the green belt, red tape. In reality, the power of landowners and building companies, their tax and financial advantages and the vast shift in bank lending towards the housing sector have inflated prices so much that even a massive housebuilding programme could not counteract them.

    The same forces are responsible for the loss of public space in cities, a right to roam that covers only 10% of the land, the lack of provision for allotments and of opportunities for new farmers, and the wholesale destruction of the living world. Our report aims to confront these structural forces and take back control of the fabric of the nation.
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    Post by Filipenko Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:23 am

    Agrarna reforma narodu! Kapitalizam 101 - Page 8 1012898122


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    Post by Guest Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:23 am

    može ovde? može ovde.

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    Post by beatakeshi Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:54 am

    Dobro jutro.

    "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer" is an aphorism due to Percy Bysshe Shelley. In A Defence of Poetry (1821, not published until 1840) 
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    Post by Летећи Полип Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:15 pm

    Djamolidine Abdoujaparov wrote:može ovde? može ovde.



    Na stranu što 1% uopšte nije malo, glavni i odgovorni su ovi između 70og i 99og procenta. To je pešadija. To ide u četnike i belogardejce.


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    Post by Filipenko Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:57 pm

    Fejsbuk strana AMDa kaci ovu sliku, dva dana pre pojavljivanja nove generacije grafickih karti u prodaji, uz gomilu hvalospeva o proizvodima:


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    Tri dana kasnije, bune se ljudi sto nisu te cene vec vise cene. AMD odgovara:


    Poređenje sa Američkim tržištem i američkim logističkim praksama i troškovima je poput pomorandži i jabuuka sa malim tržištima udaljenim od glavnih lučkih pristaništa.
    U Americi ne postoji PDV. Postoje različiti drugačiji porezi koji zavise od države do države i u zavisnosti gde se nalazi Amazonovo skladište i kupac, plaćaju se različiti porezi na izraženu, preporučenu cenu.
    U Srbiji se plaća u dinarima, a sva roba se proizvođaču isplaćuje u dolarima, a krediti kroz koje se obezbeđuju budžeti za kupovinu se vežu za Euro. To je trostruki trošak samo na kursnim razlikama. U Srbiji je fiksna stopa PDV-a. U Srbiji se roba doprema (u glavnom) iz daleke Holandije, eventualno Češke ili Poljske... itd... itd... da ne ulazimo dalje u troškove poslovanja i obim tržišta koje se ne može porediti sa zapadnoevropskim tržištima... Matematika je mnogo kompleksnija, nego što običan kupac misli. A poređenje giganta poput Amazona i male lokalne maloprodaje je faktički nemoguće.


    ...sto je sve tehnicki tacno, ali kada su se hvalili jeftinim cenama, onda nije bio problem mesati jabuke i pomorandze™ Kapitalizam 101 - Page 8 286371741
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    Post by паће Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:42 pm

    Filipenko wrote:
    ...sto je sve tehnicki tacno, ali kada su se hvalili jeftinim cenama, onda nije bio problem mesati 

    Па цене и јесу јефтине, тј ништа их не кошта да напишу оволико или онолико. Роба, међутим, кошта :љ.

    ф wrote:jabuke i pomorandze™ Kapitalizam 101 - Page 8 286371741

    Нешто чудно пишу те бабе и жабе...


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    Post by Filipenko Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:05 am

    Zadnje doba doslo, konzervativna televizija u stranom vlasnistvu organizuje debate na temu kapitalizam vs socijalizam  Kapitalizam 101 - Page 8 2952840586 I to sa Ricardom Vulfom.








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    Raduješ li se Zuperiška.





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    https://trecisvijet.com/evropski-sud-pravde-na-strani-kraftwerka/
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:58 am

    Evo lakših sadržaja, pogodinih za ove velike vrućine, ovo je "kapitalizam za plažu".
    Kapitalizam je veoma značajna tema u mom tužnom i predosadnom životu. Često mislim o smislu psotojanja, o serijalu Petak 13.-ti, o tome da li Miodrag Zdravković ima jednu ili dve noge, da li je Leka katao Jovanku ili da li je srbin kročio na Mesec. Ipak, najviše me brinu računi. I kako da mi čarape manje smrde. 
    Pristup kapitalizmu je u nas veoma raznorodan, a ipak se da lako katalogizovati. 
    a) Salonske komunjare imaju melanholični, ruski, resantimanski pogled na kapitalce, eh taj imperijalizam koliko je zla naneo. Moramo se držati zajedno. Gorbačov i Sloba nekad a sada Putin i ko god da je na vlsti, jedine odbrane slovenstva. Ako treba i u crkvu ćemo da idemo, Putin, Gorby i Sloba i ovaj naš ionako nisu vernici.
    b) zaverenički, katastrofičarski pogled: svuda se podmeće nukelarni otpad, narod se truje, 0.1 promila ima sve bogatsvo i upravlja svetom iz antinuklearnih bunekra ispod švajcarskih planina.
    c) lepršave simpatije onih Fulbrajtovih stipendista i američkih i britanskih koledžara. I a) i c) umeju lepo da popiju na prijemima u američkim, ruskim i inim ambasadama.
    d) ekonomisti opslužitelji aktuelnih vlasti

    Ali, kao što rekoh, evo lakših sadržaja, uz glazbu:

    “The basic thought is that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.”

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    here is an interesting idea which originally came from American Marxist thinker Fredric Jameson but which has been perhaps more widely popularized by Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek. The basic thought is that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism. Žižek expands on this idea in the introduction to Mapping Ideology a collection of essays by various authors that he edited. He contrasts the post-Cold War landscape with the one just a few years before when it was unclear whether communism and fascism existed as plausible alternatives to liberal capitalism.
    After the fall of the Soviet Union, capitalism became the only imaginable mode of production. But in this new era, issues like ecological catastrophe became much more present in people’s imagination. This, says Žižek, is what reveals that it is easier to imagine the world’s end than a much more modest change in the mode of production, however radical it may be. But this fact is not just a mere interesting curiosity. Rather, for Žižek it showcases how ideology shapes our understanding of the world. He writes that it is, “as if liberal capitalism is the ‘real’ that will somehow survive even under conditions of a global ecological catastrophe.” And he continues: “one can thus categorically assert the existence of ideology qua generative matrix that regulates the relationship between visible and non-visible, between imaginable and non-imaginable, as well as the changes in this relationship.”
    This can be easily understood through his brief discussion of the 1988 film They Live. In the movie, protagonist John Nada discovers a pair of glasses that, in Žižek’s words, function like a critique of ideology. They allow him to see the ‘real’ that is hidden behind what is presented to us every day. Ideology is what makes us perceive reality the way we do, rather than seeing the ‘real’ that hides beneath. In this way, the ideology of post-Cold War capitalism is what makes this observation by Jameson and Žižek true: it makes capitalism seem pervasive and inevitable. In turn, what makes the observation relevant is the fact that it reveals the effects of this.

    https://merionwest.com/2019/07/24/slavoj-zizek-music-the-end-of-capitalism/
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    Post by Летећи Полип Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:06 am

    Creepy Uncle wrote:https://trecisvijet.com/evropski-sud-pravde-na-strani-kraftwerka/


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    Grand Theft Auto maker has paid no UK corporation tax in 10 years

    George Turner, the director of TaxWatch, said: “It is outrageous that the UK taxpayer is being asked to shell out tens of millions of pounds in subsidy to the developers of Grand Theft Auto, when at the time that the game’s developers put in their tax credit application Grand Theft Auto V had already generated several billion dollars in sales and profits. This is a drive-by assault on the British taxpayer and corporate welfare scrounging at its very worst.”


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    Post by Filipenko Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:54 am

    Lol.

    To je najbogatiji igracki studio koji najvise zaradjuje i uglavnom drzi sve rekorde sto se prodaje i love tice.

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    Usput, dev kuće treba da odu iz UK i tako odjebu feudalni vampirski landlord sistem, i te pare koje odu na rentu usmere na ljude koji prave proizvod negde drugde.

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