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    Kataloniji u čast - mogući referendoom

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    Post by Zuper Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:41 am

    Zbog Gibraltara
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    Pa zato sto im odgovara slabija i rastrzana EU pred pregovore o izlasku. UK se sada nalazi u teskom polozaju, EU ima jace mahanizme ucene. 
    Ja ne kazem da je to tako, nego gde bih ja stavio novce kada bi morao.
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    Post by Kinder Lad Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:48 am

    Zuper wrote:
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    Kada bi se kladio ko iz pozadine gura katalonsku pricu od stranih faktora rekao bih Britanija iz 1 u 1.

    Mozda deo torijevaca, ali vecina ne. Skotska, Vels, S.Irska...


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    Post by Zuper Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:51 am

    Torijevci vladaju.
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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:53 am

    Vladaju pa razbijaju. Samo im je Gibraltar na pameti, sve su drugo resili.


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    Post by Kinder Lad Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:57 am

    Da, ali vlada ne spada u to. May 100% podrzava Rajoya. Zapravo je sentiment vise prokatalonski kod glasaca laburista, ali je to nebitno. 

    Niko zapravo stvarno ne podrzava Kataloniju, jedino je nikima malo nelagodno od onoga sto verovatno sledi, a to je neki vid represije. S tim sto je po independiste nezgodno sto je najneprijateljskija prema njima Francuska (pa zatim Italija) i to preko celog politickog spektra. Bacio sam oko na "levi" Le Mond i ono je solidna pljuvacina na njima. Figaro ne moram ni da gledam.


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    Post by Zuper Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:07 am

    Ne bih ja u ovome slucaju obracao paznju na zvanicne izjave.
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    Naravno da London nece podrzati zvanicno secesiju Katalonije zbog Skota ali to ne znaci da im ne odgovara kriza u EU.
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    Post by Kinder Lad Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:12 am

    Zuper wrote:Ne bih ja u ovome slucaju obracao paznju na zvanicne izjave.
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    Naravno da London nece podrzati zvanicno secesiju Katalonije zbog Skota ali to ne znaci da im ne odgovara kriza u EU.

    Prve stvari prvo - jedinstvo zemlje. 

    Mislim da masis cilj. Ako ih neko od "nedrzavnih entiteta" podrzava, i kad bih morao da stavim pare - to bi bili neki krugovi u Americi. Blizi demokratama nego republikancima (mada na to vec ne bih stavljao pare). Rusi samo troluju EU, sto je za ocekivati.


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    Post by Guest Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:36 am

    Douglas Herbert @dougf24
    BBC reporting #Catalonia president #Puigdemont, fearing possible imminent arrest, had arranged for his wife & children to leave country.
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    Post by kondo Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:51 am

    gde, u burundi ili paragvaj? Kataloniji u čast - mogući referendoom - Page 10 3579118792


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    Post by ♏ Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:59 am

    Soraya preuzela Kataloniju... Neymar ne samo da ih je ponizio onakvim prelaskom u Qatar Saint-Germain, nego im sad još instalirao poslugu u Generalitat.
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    Post by Guest Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:59 am

    Gambija ftw
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    Post by Kinder Lad Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:16 am

    Gargantua wrote:Douglas Herbert @dougf24
    BBC reporting #Catalonia president #Puigdemont, fearing possible imminent arrest, had arranged for his wife & children to leave country.

    Pa nece niko da mu hapsi zenu i decu.


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    Post by Guest Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:58 pm

    Catalan ex-leader Carles Puigdemont vows to resist takeover
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    Sacked Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont has called for "democratic opposition" to direct rule from Madrid.
    He condemned the suspension of Catalonia's autonomy and promised to continue to "work to build a free country".
    He made the call in a pre-recorded TV address to Catalans broadcast on Saturday afternoon.

    The Spanish government has stripped Catalonia of its autonomy and taken charge of its government.
    The measures came early on Saturday after the Catalan parliament voted to declare independence the previous day.

    Earlier, Spain's interior ministry took charge of Catalonia's police after firing senior Catalan police officials.
    Friday saw Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy announce the dissolution of the regional parliament and the removal of Mr Puigdemont as Catalan leader, and call snap regional elections.
    An an official state bulletin (in Spanish) handed control of Catalonia to Spain's Deputy Prime Minister, Soraya Saenz de Santamaria.

    Demonstrations for and against independence went on into the night and a large rally "for the unity of Spain and the constitution" was held in Madrid on Saturday.

    In his TV address, Mr Puigdemont, describing the declaration of independence, said Friday had been "a day with democratic and civic sensibility".
    He said the central government's actions since then were "contrary to the expressed will of the citizens of our country, who know perfectly well that in a democracy it is parliaments that choose, or remove, presidents".

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41788898

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    Post by Kinder Lad Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:18 pm

    I posle se pita Zuper da ih slucajno Englezi ne podrzavaju... Fakin BBC


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    Post by Guest Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:40 pm

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    Post by Kinder Lad Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:52 pm

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    Post by Guest Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:03 pm

    plaid cymru hoće da vels prizna katalonce



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    Post by Guest Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:09 pm

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    [th]President of the Generalitat of Catalonia (Kingdom of Spain)President de la Generalitat de Catalunya[/th]
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    Post by Kinder Lad Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:19 pm

    Desnicari imaju bolje ribe, to je jbg tako i gotovo... Ona katalonska Ciudadanoska

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    Post by Guest Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:21 pm

    Catalan police chief resigns following Madrid’s orders

    Josep Lluís Trapero steps down and asks police officers to stay loyal to his successors

    28 October 2017 04:27 PM byACN | Barcelona


    The Catalan police chief Josep Lluís Trapero resigned on Saturday after the Spanish government ordered his dismissal. Madrid has appointed Ferran López, a high-ranking officer from the Catalan police, to substitute Trapero as the police chief.

    Trapero's resignation comes at a moment of peaking political tension between executives in Madrid and Barcelona. On Friday, the Catalan Parliament voted on a declaration of independence and the Spanish government responded by announcing the dismissal of the Catalan government, the dissolution of the Parliament and a snap election to be held on December 21.

    In a televised speech, Catalan president Carles Puigdemont appeared to ignore his dismissal and called on people to "democratically resist" Madrid takeover.

    Trapero asked police officers to continue obeying orders from his successors. “I ask you — and you’ve always done so — to be sympathetic and stay loyal with [the new heads’] decisions,” he wrote in a letter sent to his agents.


    The Spanish Home Affairs Minister, Juan Ignacio Zoido, announced today that Madrid was assuming “the responsibilities of the Catalan Home Affairs Ministry in order to protect legality." According to Zoido, Trapero’s dismissal was due to his “judicial situation.”

    The Catalan police chief is accused with sedition charges in relation to the October 1 referendum and the demonstrations that took place prior to the vote. The public prosecutor asked the judge to send him to prison, but the latter opted instead for less drastic measures and confiscated his passport.

    Trapero stepped down after the Director General of the Catalan police, Pere Soler, also resigned following the Spanish government’s decision to fire him. Soler wrote a letter to his officers as well, deeming the decision as “extraordinarily unfair.”

    “We tried to prevent the political process in Catalonia from affecting the normal functioning of the Mossos d’Esquadra (Catalan police), but sadly it has not been this case," he went on to say.
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    Post by паће Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:23 pm

    Gargantua wrote:wiki poštuje španski ustav Kataloniji u čast - mogući referendoom - Page 10 1399639816







    [th]President of the Generalitat of Catalonia (Kingdom of Spain)President de la Generalitat de Catalunya[/th]
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    Лепо пише да само глуми. И то добро... изгледа да има све што јој треба ама од овог погледа би свакоме пао.


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    Post by beatakeshi Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:24 pm

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    Post by Erős Pista Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:15 am

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    Post by Guest Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:44 am

    BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Granting Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont political asylum in Belgium would be "not unrealistic" if he asks for it, the Belgian migration minister said, underlining his country's position as a contrarian voice in the Spanish standoff.
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    While there was no indication Puigdemont was hoping to come to Belgium, the country is one of few members of the European Union where EU citizens can ask for political asylum.

    "It is not unrealistic if you look at the situation," Belgium's migration minister, Theo Francken, told Belgian broadcaster VTM.

    "They are already talking about a prison sentence," Francken, a member of Flemish nationalist party N-VA, said. "The question is to what extent he would get a fair trial."
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    Post by Kinder Lad Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:26 am

    Katalonija nije sama: Južna Osetija i Korzika uz nju

    Iz Ukrajine kreće bataljon da smiri Kataloniju

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