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    kondo

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    Post by kondo Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:58 pm

    a sta ako mu je pun kufer?


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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:56 pm

    Premijer Grčke Aleksis Cipras podneo je ostavku.
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    Post by boomer crook Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:25 pm

    postoje dobre sanse da ce dobti apsolutnu vecinu sam. videcemo.


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    Post by Jir-Lo Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:11 am

    ostap bender wrote: s druge strane, takodje treba voditi racuna da badju kada na primer govori o boljsevicima kaze da je to bio i pokret za preuzimanje drzave ali i pokret protiv drzave. preuzimanje drzavne vlasti ne mora nuzno da znaci da se ona ne moze razgradjivati.
    ala su je razgradili, svaka im cast.
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:31 am

    ako mi kupis cevape objasnicu ti.


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    Post by Jir-Lo Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:22 am

    deal. ako uspes da objasnis da cccp nije bio drzava, mozes da jedes cevapa na moj racun dok ne crknes.


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    Post by boomer crook Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:03 pm

    pa nisam to rekao. mogao bi pazljivije da citas:

    sssr je bio drzava ali je istovremeno za svoj cilj imao i svoje ukidanje kao drzave. ova tendencija je bila izrazenija u ranim danima revolucije (ukljucujuci insistiranje da revolucija i dalje traje). drugim recima cilj boljsevika nije bio da imaju svoju drzavu vec da otmu drzavu kao orudje klasne ekspolatacije. ovo je nominalno bio i ostao cilj sssr do samog kraja postojanja. mislim to govori i samo njeno ime. inace, moglo bi da se kaze da dezintegracioni procesi i u jugoslaviji i u sssr delomicno bili omoguceni ovom tendencijom. iako je bi vredelo napomenuti da je jugoslavija po mnogo cemu specificnija.

    in other news

    http://www.versobooks.com/blogs/2182-greece-popular-unity-is-born


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    Post by Jir-Lo Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:58 pm

    znam, i teoretski si u pravu, ali u praksi su isti ti boljsevici stvorili nesto potpuno suprotno. drzavu koja se mesa u i uredjuje apsolutno sve, superdrzavu. revolucionari su se veoma brzo pretvorili u reakcionare, a to o revoluciji koja tece je postala isprazna mantra.


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    Post by паће Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:23 pm

    Jir-Lo wrote:znam, i teoretski si u pravu, ali u praksi su isti ti boljsevici stvorili nesto potpuno suprotno. drzavu koja se mesa u i uredjuje apsolutno sve, superdrzavu. revolucionari su se veoma brzo pretvorili u reakcionare, a to o revoluciji koja tece je postala isprazna mantra.

    А па није, неки делови су остали нетакнути до краја. Нпр оно о једењу своје деце и мангупима у сопственим редовима.


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    Post by Jir-Lo Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:29 pm

    dobro, ali to vazi i za ds, na primer.


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    Post by boomer crook Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:18 pm

    pa ne vazi. ds nam je dao tacno ono sto je nudio. vlast elite znojavog ljubinog sina i povratak na 30te proslog veka. sto je nasuprot tome stajao sloba je drugi problem.

    sto se boljsevika tice teorijski aspekti toga su ostali u pravnim aktima i javnom govoru. ocu da kazem da su i tu postojale protivrecnosti. ocekujem cevape.


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    Post by Jir-Lo Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:06 am

    u pravnim aktima i javnom govoru je i kosovo deo srbije, pa opet nekako nije. sto jeste neka vrsta protivrecnosti. ili mozda nije, posto svi znamo o cemu se tu radi. javni govor je takodje kurton, svi se zalazu za pravde, jednakosti, postenu raspodelu, smanjenje korupcije i birokratije i demokratiju i ostali asortiman, a onda rade sta im dune.
    missim, previse teoretises, a praksu namerno ignorises i kad ti je neko turi pod nos vices tralalalaal i zapusavas usi.

    mos da dobijes samo 1 cevap Syriza ftw - Page 38 1912529702


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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:13 am

    koliko ja vidim, polazna tacka je Badjuova teorijska pretpostavka, a ne politicka praksa SSSR, tako da dugujes vise od tog jednog smokija, pardon cevapa.
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    Post by Jir-Lo Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:24 am

    ok, jesi u pravu, malo sam prebrzo citao i sve pomesao.

    vodim ga na cevape. u teoriji.
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    Post by kondo Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:48 am

    ogadiste mi rostilj. i smoki...


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    Post by Indy Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:49 am

    Kad guglam da vidim šta je Trotsky imao da kaže o "elimination of the state" izlazi mi samo nešto o elimination of Trotsky. Bummer!

    Edit. Evo ga!
    Leon wrote:Having agreed with the anarchists that the state, even the workers’ state, is the offspring of class barbarism and that real human history will begin with the abolition of the state, we have still before us in full force the question: what ways and methods will lead, ultimately, to the abolition of the state? Recent experience bears witness that they are anyway not the methods of anarchism.
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:58 am

    He got an ice pick
    That made his ears burn
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    Post by Indy Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:59 am

    Hehe, dobri stari Davitelji.
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    Post by boomer crook Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:53 am

    Indy wrote:Kad guglam da vidim šta je Trotsky imao da kaže o "elimination of the state" izlazi mi samo nešto o elimination of Trotsky. Bummer!

    Edit. Evo ga!
    Leon wrote:Having agreed with the anarchists that the state, even the workers’ state, is the offspring of class barbarism and that real human history will begin with the abolition of the state, we have still before us in full force the question: what ways and methods will lead, ultimately, to the abolition of the state? Recent experience bears witness that they are anyway not the methods of anarchism.

    pa ne samo to do 1922. godine su sovjeti zapravo vrsili vlast kao oblik direktne demokratije. situacija je komplikovanija i naravno da je tako uvek. na kraju krajeva pitaj ukrajince.
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    Post by Indy Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:09 pm

    Ne mogu da verujem da niste obeležili Syrizinu novu pobedu. Syriza ftw - Page 38 1233199462

    Elem, evo ga Toma Piketi, nešto o tome.
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    Post by zvezda je zivot Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:41 pm

    izgleda da ovde niko nije veran governmental eventu


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    Post by Guest Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:34 pm

    Biljana Keller evo ti tvoj drugar varufakis, koji jutros u gardijanu kaže da je EU naterala grčku da rasformira jedinicu protiv ekonomskog kriminala "njeno najvažnije oružje". laže, naravno, kao pas. ali nema veze, lep je i priča prostim jezikom da ga svaka grupi devojka razume. mržnja prema zajednici evropskih naroda ujedinjuje ove šarlatane svih boja, baš kao na košuljama janisa varufakisa.
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    Post by Guest Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:37 pm

    Biljana Keller inace, SDOE nije rasformirana, nego će samo u delu poreskih prestupa grčkih oligarha koji kriju pare po inostranstvu, biti pod budnim okom trojke, zbog, na primer toga što varufakisovi ljudi skidaju sa liste imena porodica koje tpaju pare u švajcarsku. ali nema veze, motor brunda vrmvrmvrm i demagogijica radi kod poluinteligenata kao sat svoč.
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    Post by plachkica Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:39 pm

    Za srce me je ujela!

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