Syriza ftw
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- Post n°576
Re: Syriza ftw
А сад Ангела са клингонским челом...
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- Post n°579
Re: Syriza ftw
Podemos u CZKD-u !
posto je prosli put bio krkljanac kad se pricalo o Sirizi, ovaj put se prijavljuje za dolazak na dogadjaj.
Ponedeljak, 06. jul u 18h @ CZKD
PODEMOS
Razgovor sa aktivistkinjama i aktivistima iz Španije
Informacije o Podemos-u (Možemo), razmena, različita viđenja Podemos-a, političke partije izrasle iz M-15 – Indignados/Ogorčeno, pokreta masovnih građanskih protesta nastalog 2011. godine. Podemos je na poslednjim lokalnim izborima u Španiji (maj 2015.) osvojio veliki broj glasova u celoj zemlji.
O Podemos-u, novoj političkoj platformi u Španiji, kao i drugim pitanjima u vezi sa političkim, društvenim, ekonomskim kontekstom u Španiji govore:
Koncha Martin Sanchez – aktivistkinja Međunarodne mreže Žena u crnom, Pokreta za prigovor savesti na vojne troškove, pokreta ‘Indignados’, Madrid
Almudena Izquierdo Olmo – aktivistkinja Međunarodne mreže Žena u crnom, Pokreta za prigovor savesti na vojne troškove, sindikalna aktivistkinja, aktivistkinja pokreta ‘Indignados’, Madrid
Luz Gonzales – aktivistkinja Međunarodne mreže Žena u crnom, aktivistkinja pokreta ‘Indignados’, književnica, Madrid
Martin Alonso Zarza – filozof, mirovni aktivista, Santander
Jolanda Roullier – aktivistkinja Međunarodne mreže Žena u crnom, Santander
Maria Milagros Garate Larrea – aktivistkinja Međunarodne mreže Žena u crnom, Santader
Maria de las Montanas Gutierrez – aktivistkinja Međunarodne mreže Žena u crnom, aktivistkinja pokreta “Indignados”, Sevilja
Razgovor u organizaciji Žena u crnom moderiraju Marijana Stojčić i Staša Zajović.
Molimo vas da nam se prijavite za učešće u ovom razgovoru! Unapred hvala!
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posto je prosli put bio krkljanac kad se pricalo o Sirizi, ovaj put se prijavljuje za dolazak na dogadjaj.
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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- Post n°580
Re: Syriza ftw
Sotiris objasnjava
The Referendum as Rupture
For Greece, only a “no” vote on Sunday can make possible a lasting anti-austerity alternative.
by Panagiotis Sotiris
The referendum to be held in Greece on Sunday is not a political debate. It is a battle in an ongoing war between Greek society and the European Union (EU) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which are trying to turn Greece into the most brutal recent experiment in neoliberal social engineering.
Carl Schmitt once wrote that the only existentialist categories are those of friend and foe. It is exactly this that can explain the tactics of the EU, particularly Germany, during the Greek crisis. There has never been a negotiation. It has been from the beginning an existential war, in the Schmittian sense, one in which you are not looking for common ground or a compromise in your favor but for the full capitulation of the enemy.
This can account for the refusal to actually negotiate with the Greek side, despite the painful concessions the latter had made and its acceptance of austerity. That is why there were always new terms and new demands arising during the negotiations. That is why they refused any discussion of reducing Greece’s debt burden, exactly because it is debt that has been the most convenient tool for this open and cynical blackmail of an entire society.
The Greek government’s decision to hold the referendum was an act of rupture with the EU. We should remember that the EU is allergic to referendums after the traumatic experience of 2005 and is generally hostile to any exercise of popular sovereignty that undermines its neoliberal policies. Moreover, here we have a referendum not on a policy to be adopted but on a policy already implemented — actually for the core of the current version of the disciplinary European Economic Governance. Rejecting the creditors’ proposals equals rejecting the essence of the contemporary form of European integration.
Consequently, for the EU and in particular Germany, the very decision to hold a referendum meant the end of negotiations. In a certain way the German tactic is simple: go through with the referendum. If there is a “yes” vote, you will get a new harsher austerity package. If there is a “no” vote, then brace for Greece’s exit from the eurozone (“Grexit”).
In this sense Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’s idea that after a massive “no” vote there will be a restart of negotiations is groundless. Even if they still want a humiliating deal and not a punitive forced exit, they will probably take advantage of the current condition (banks with no liquidity, capital controls, market collapse, cash shortages, and probable shortages in basic goods) and prolong it as a means to impose the full version of the politics of social devastation.
The idea of a referendum was correct, and it has liberated social forces and potential in a manner that we had not seen in the past few months. For the first time, we can see the forces of the Left — with the exception of the Communist Party, which remains entrapped in its paranoid leftism — giving an actual fight. But the referendum is not a negotiation. It is the beginning of the rupture.
Unfortunately, Syriza has not been prepared for that. The fact that many Syriza heavyweights such as Yannis Dragasakis, Giorgos Stathakis, Dimitrios Papadimoulis, and others openly called for acceptance of any deal offered, in defiance of Tsipras’s insistence that there should first be a “no” vote, is an example of the limits of Syriza. Tsipras has shown courage and determination, refusing to capitulate and giving all his weight in favor of No. Nevertheless, he still presents the “no” vote as a negotiation tactic, making proposals even at the last minute, and not as the beginning of a broader confrontation.
At the same time, we already see a massive polarization of Greek society. The Yes campaign is combining a mobilization of bourgeois and middle-class strata (a very large number of professional associations support Yes) and the deployment of all forms of ideological warfare. The private media are propaganda machines for the “yes” vote, and Greek corporations openly threaten their employees with mass layoffs if there is a “no” vote, using the refusal to pay wages as a means to make the threat credible.
Fear is beginning to become the determining factor. At the same time, you see also signs of radicalization in the No camp, with people more ready than ever to accept the full cost of rupture if this opens up the prospect of an end to austerity.
The biggest problem is that we still lack what is most urgently needed: a coherent narrative for a rupture that is in fact inescapable. A sincere narrative that will speak about the initial difficulties and the long-term benefits of Grexit, provided that is done in a sovereign manner, and the need for a different developmental paradigm. A militant narrative that could also appeal to the people to support this strategy in an energetic fashion, accept the initial hardship, and fight fear. Syriza is still unwilling to face this challenge, and the radical left is still deficient regarding the need to move from slogans to programs.
A “yes” vote would not only mean that the Greek government would have to sign a humiliating agreement. It would also mean a broader process of realignment of the political scene, including enormous huge pressure on Syriza (some of it exercised from within) to move to the right. Above all, it would be used to change the balance of forces in favor of capital and to preemptively reverse whatever aspirations the subaltern classes had.
A massive win for No is the only solution, the only way to release dynamics and put an end to the automatic pilot of austerity and social devastation. But it will not be enough. It is more urgent than ever for the Left to actually face the challenges ahead of it.
The challenge is not to have some temporary breaths of dignity, some moments of victory, and a brief interval of popular sovereignty, before defeat and capitulation. The challenge is to prove that there can actually be a lasting alternative.
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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- Post n°581
Re: Syriza ftw
i Kuvelakis objasnjava takodje:
I would urge all those who follow what is going on in Greece with the typical mixture of anxiety and hope to keep as cool a head as possible. The Greek media are in a hysterical state, and the Western media are not that different. One of their favorite themes, on top of the apocalyptic atmosphere they are propagating, is that the referendum will not take place, that the government has actually accepted the Juncker plan and will cancel the referendum and so on. Beware of such misinformation.
It is true that some initiatives of the government are, to say the least, ambiguous and debatable. This is particularly true of yesterday’s proposal for a new loan from the European Stability Mechanism and Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’s letter to the Eurogroup disclosed today. Their aim is to display goodwill and give credit to the position that what will take place next week, following a potential victory of No, is a new cycle of “negotiations.” But everyone knows that a) this is very unlikely to happen and b) that in any case there aren’t any proper negotiations going on now: Merkel made it clear that absolutely no talks are conceivable before Sunday.
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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- Post n°582
Re: Syriza ftw
imo, tsiprasov potez sa pismom od prekjuce je preigravanje i autogol za OXI kampanju jer se u grckoj takve nerazumne koncesije jedino mogu citati kao strah od neizvesnosti koju OXI nosi.
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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- Post n°583
Re: Syriza ftw
to prilicno jasno pokazuje da mu referendum i nije bio konacna namera nego bargaining chip u zaustavnom vremenu.
realno ga je angela prilicno oprala sa ovim njenim javi se u ponedeljak da vidim da li cu da ti dignem slusalicu.
realno ga je angela prilicno oprala sa ovim njenim javi se u ponedeljak da vidim da li cu da ti dignem slusalicu.
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Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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- Post n°584
Re: Syriza ftw
pa da, cipras za razliku od varufakisa, kuvelakisa i generalno svoje baze i dalje misli da ima s kime da prica u EU. mislim da je proslo vreme za mr nice greek, a on to ne konta. mislim, ok, to je njegova izborna platforma all along, i kosovo i evropa i kraj austerity-ja i evropa. al to vise ne moze i on sa takvom idejom polako postaje liability u svojoj stranci.
prognoza: izglasace NAI 55-45%, cipras ce pokusati nekakve pregovore i nastace slom u sirizi. ako OXI - kao rizicnija, neizvesnija varijanta - ne vodi vec sad sa dosta % u poll-ovima ne pise mu se dobro overall, jer ce ljudi na sam dan referenduma entropijski teziti NAI-ju.
prognoza: izglasace NAI 55-45%, cipras ce pokusati nekakve pregovore i nastace slom u sirizi. ako OXI - kao rizicnija, neizvesnija varijanta - ne vodi vec sad sa dosta % u poll-ovima ne pise mu se dobro overall, jer ce ljudi na sam dan referenduma entropijski teziti NAI-ju.
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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- Post n°585
Re: Syriza ftw
a baš sam razmišljao kako ga nema nigde i kako se ne javlja.
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- Post n°586
Re: Syriza ftw
meni je u ovom najjaci fenomen medija. Pravi udruzeni poduhvat. Nisam znao da evropski superhikovi imaju toliko Milijana Baletic
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- Post n°587
Re: Syriza ftw
Oni tamo se razbrajaju kako bi glasali na grčkom referendumu .. ovde nema potrebe to raditi odnosno ako ima, ima za mene i uskoka, pa eto da kažem :
Ne-pa nek ode lepo ceo sistem u kurac!
Ne-pa nek ode lepo ceo sistem u kurac!
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- Post n°588
Re: Syriza ftw
Harper.Šuvar i varivo wrote:
Ne-pa nek ode lepo ceo sistem u kurac!
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- Post n°591
Re: Syriza ftw
Po mojim informacijama koje su neposredne (dete mi u Atini radi) ako se glasa pri normalnim okolnostima Ciprasovi su nadmocni. Medjutim u eri interneta oni koji zajme milijarde kupuju lako javno mnenje i moguce je i da opcija umiranja na krstu dobije jos koji procenat.
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- Post n°593
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Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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- Post n°594
Re: Syriza ftw
zadnjih 2 sata postoje neke sve ucestalije naznake da je OXI odneo solidnu pobedu na greferendumu.
revolucionarni komitet republike burundi apeluje na suzdrzanost i cekanje zvanicne potvrde referendumske komisije. RKRB je u tom cilju organizovao i zvanicno pracenje referendumskih rezultata na trgu revolucije kao i eventualnu centralnu proslavu pobede OXI-ja sa mahmoudom ahmedom i imperial body guard band-om.
do pobede !
revolucionarni komitet republike burundi apeluje na suzdrzanost i cekanje zvanicne potvrde referendumske komisije. RKRB je u tom cilju organizovao i zvanicno pracenje referendumskih rezultata na trgu revolucije kao i eventualnu centralnu proslavu pobede OXI-ja sa mahmoudom ahmedom i imperial body guard band-om.
do pobede !
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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- Post n°595
Re: Syriza ftw
niko ne dise na internetu! cak procurila i nova tejm impala i niko nije primetio lol! ovo ko kad pratis neko finale basketa preko plejbajpleja, boksskora il tako nekog kurca.
do pobede!
do pobede!
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- Post n°597
Re: Syriza ftw
15 odsto kaze da oxi ubija 60-40.
el jos rano da se radujemo?
el jos rano da se radujemo?
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- Post n°599
Re: Syriza ftw
hahaha, na 18% jos veci margin za OXI - 68,49-31,51
InvisibleLight PPP wrote:kurcheviti kricani dominiraju, hanja 74% oxi
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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- Post n°600
Re: Syriza ftw
ja sam bila ubedjena da ce 'better the devil you know' prevladati na kraju. ako pobedi oxi, bice ovo veliki dan.
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