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Post by Daï Djakman Faré Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:01 pm

Varufakisova ex-PASOK, ex-pro-bailout kandidatkinja za novog grckog predstavnika pri IMF-u se povukla posle internih stranackih protesta

Elena Panaritis has just announced that she does not wish to be Greece’s new representative at the International Monetary Fund, according to local media.

She has withdrawn following the backlash from Syriza MPs who wrote to prime minister Alexis Tsipras, saying her previuus support for Greece’s bailout programmes made her an unacceptable candidate (see earlier post).

This u-turn calms the danger that the government could split. But it’s also something of a blow to finance minister Yanis Varoufakis, as he’d proposed Panaritis for the role.

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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place

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Post by Daï Djakman Faré Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:53 pm

Markets slip after IMF walks out of Greek debt talks

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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place

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Post by Erős Pista Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:15 pm

The Looming Austerity Package

The European “institutions” are seeking a public defeat of Syriza and the closing off of any alternative.

by Costas Lapavitsas

Some rather self-evident conclusions emerge as to where we are headed.
There is no basis for the idea that there are serious differences between the creditors that can be utilized to the advantage of the Greek side. The European elite is well-mannered and speaks politely, but it includes nobody who could be called a friend. When it’s crunch time, the polite negotiators become hard, intransigent, and cynical. This is the way empires have been built in the past.
There is no “politics of negotiation” in the way that this is usually perceived in Greece — that is to say, with personal agreements between leaders. In the European context political positions are mediated through institutions and mechanisms — in a broader sense than applies for the public sector — which have their own logic. The mediation is often technocratic in character.
For example, there is not much to distinguish the goals of the Greek government from those of the lenders when it comes to the primary surplus, but the stances on the measures to be taken are very different. The technocratic mediation of the lenders’ political positions is strict. It follows the logic of the IMF and, accordingly, demands harsh measures.
There is not going to be a proposal from the lenders that does not entail a high political cost for Syriza and its leadership, because the party endangers the status quo in Europe. The lenders want to demonstrate that Syriza has been defeated.

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Post by Daï Djakman Faré Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:18 am

ja sam se iskreno nadao uoci g7 samita da ce ujka sem da uskoci i zavrne ruku euro-mandrilima, ali ta su vremena nazalost, davno prosla. momentum za jedan efektan, radikalni presek je prosao pre 3 meseca, ali najgora stvar koju siriza moze da uradi sad jeste jeste da parafiraju neki sporazum koji ce biti totalni poraz njihove izborne politike.

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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place

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Post by паће Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:23 am

Мислим да Сириза сад има само два јака потеза: 1) да објави све што се тражило од њих и 2) наручи кафу и киселу.

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Post by kondo Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:16 am

pa ujka sem to jos moze da uradi ali za to vec cipras i ekipa moraju da prevedu zemlju preko granice zileta koji se zove NATO a oni to nisu ni pokusali, sem u onom petingu preko farmerki sa rusima koji je zavrsio pre nego sto je poceo. sem ako ideja nekakve alternativne globalnom finansijskom ustrojstvu nije i ujka semu vaznija od toga da odrzi ~~vitalnu tacku ulaza u evropu~~ svoj severnoatlanski poredak. zapravo je cipras propustio da grcku krizu napravi krizom cele te neke post-1945 evrope.

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Post by Daï Djakman Faré Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:40 am

naravno da to nije bitno ujka semu. ujka semu je bitna stabilna evropa i zato je u poslednjih nekoliko nedelja poslao par sporadicnih poruka u fazonu 'da li ste jebeno normalni da mislite da ce posledice grckog izlaza biti ogranicene na njegove najneposrednije ekonomske efekte'. ali izgleda da je posle g7 razgovora sa merkelovom, eu dala znak ujka semu u fazonu 'we got this'.

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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place

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Post by kondo Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:26 am

stvarno nisam siguran da katastrofalan grcki ishod moze da prodje bez posledica po siri sistem bezbednosti. ne bih da koristim rec geopolitika ali jedva cekam da vidim diplomatiju ankl sema kada se to desi.

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Post by Daï Djakman Faré Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:45 am

ma jebo geopolitiku. grexit je pucanj u ideju i buducnost EU.

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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:50 pm

Ne znam kolege da li ste videli ali Zidojce cajtung je objavio da se za vikend spremaju capital controls za Grcku. Ne znam preko kog mehanizma to mogu da urade, posto takvu odluku mora da potvrdi parlament u Atini. Dakle, iza brda se mozda valja nesto jos vece.
EURUSD su vec dramaticno reagovali, a ne vidim kako moze da se izbegne panicni bank run posle ove vesti.
Izgleda da pocinje.

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Post by Ferenz Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:20 pm

Ako je tačno, mada Grci demantuju, kakav bi to uticaj imalo na kurs evra kod nas i ovdašnju ekonomiju?

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:38 pm

to sam Bog zna, kod nas ce stradati deo bankarskog sektora koji je izlozen grckim bankama, nije to bas toliko veliko koliko razumem.
drugo je pitanje kako bi se grexit odrazio na klimu u celoj Evropi, niko zapravo ne zna u kom su obimu credit default swaps (spekulantske operacije koje zavise od ovakvih dogadjaja) povezane sa grexitom, dalje niko ne zna da li je evrozona uopste toliko zasticena od grexita koliko strucnjaci u ECB pokusavaju da predstave. tu je i politicka nestabilnost.

Evro bi izgubio na vrednosti, to je sasvim sigurno, jer bi se smanjilo poverenje u ovu monetu, ali sumnjam da bi se to odrazilo na nase kursne liste.

ova vest je u stvari prvorazredna. u Atini je poceo downplay vesti ali ja iskreno ne verujem da je Zidojce to objavio bez temeljne provere.

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Post by kondo Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:50 pm

varufakis showtime. sad cemo videti dokle mu je patka.

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Post by шумидер-модер Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:16 am

Vili, omiljeni moj levaku Syriza ftw - Page 19 2849097393

, sta je s tobom, nema te, lako je na Krleta se istresati Syriza ftw - Page 19 1233199462

Evo nama pozorista u kuci, oce l Siriza u narod ili ce narod u Sirizu ili ce svi zajedno u 3 lepe?

Zezanje na stranu: ako pukne, a izgleda da hoce, hoce li Sirizanci imati jaja da radikalizuju stvari i udare na sistem (mislim na grcki 'sistem' sa debelo i duboko uraslim Papandreuima, Latsisima i ostalima) ili ce da saviju glavu, cute i prime batine.
Jedno je sigurno: izgubi li Siriza ovu bitku, nasedne li na pricu o takozvanom mirnom, neradikalnom resavanju drustvenih sukoba, sa evropskom levicom i njenom buducnoscu je gotovo na duzi rok.

EU i njena buducnost obaska, a jos obaskije sto je sva prilika da ce jedna velika ideja biti definitivno sahranjena.

Edit: nagradno pitanje: ako Siriza krene, kolika kolicina populizma i to nacionalistickog se moze ocekivati na skali od 0 do 100, uzmi da je negde oko 70 vrednost balkanskih nacional-populizama 90-ih.

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Post by Erős Pista Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:21 am

Misliš ako krene u Grexit?

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Post by шумидер-модер Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:43 am

William Murderface wrote:Misliš ako krene u Grexit?

Krene ili je krenu, svejedno.
Ispucali su sve PC metode, zakljucno sa nemackim WW2 dugovima; preostaje im da odstupe u parlamentu sto za njih i ne samo za njih znaci politicku smrt sa sve podsmehom i seirenjem ili jok politicki korektna radikalizacija koja podrazumeva udar na grcki 'sistem' od cega vajde nema ako ne pokusaju da dobiju podrsku takozvanih masa i mobilisu ih ne bi li tako - izmedju ostalog - amortizovali sranje koje ce da ih zadesi.
Ako taj potez uspeju lepo da upakuju u paket mera za koji ce da zatraze podrsku Evrope (ne samo EU) mozda levica dobije novu i siru sansu.
Ako ne, jebiga, ne valja ni za Grke ni za EU.

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Post by Erős Pista Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:46 am

Slažem se.

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meni pre 2 meseca bio ovde u gostima poznanik iz atine, an zeneral levicar umetnicke provenijencije (slika haselbladom) ali mu je kriza dobrodosla posto je po zanimanju poreski advokat, tako da se realno ubija od kinte (za standarde aktuelne recesije) skrivajuci pare kome god treba. enivej, treceg dana smo otisli na pice i prvo sto mi je rekao je da ga je posle onog sto je ovde video blam da pravi bilo kakvu dramu i prica o krizi tamo, te da je pred njima dalek put do faktickog sranja u kome zivi ceo balkan pa cak i neki delovi EU. na kraju se napio kao bulja i noc zakljucio izjavom da ga je par dana u beogradu oslobodilo straha od grcke propasti posto se ovde ocigledno odlicno zivi sa 3-5x manje para po glavi nego u atini.

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Post by паће Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:38 pm

Што рече неко тамо деведешесте, "кад би се само народ мало мање сналазио, не би Слоба саставио годину".

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Post by Daï Djakman Faré Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:31 pm

malo zabave iz zute stampe

Greece PM Tsipras says Betty Batziana will leave him if he gives in to EU

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Post by Daï Djakman Faré Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:14 pm

WOW, kakvo zakucavanje Varufakisa na Pescaniku Syriza ftw - Page 19 1090578128

Grčka, Nemačka i evrozona

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Post by Erős Pista Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:23 pm

Baš htedoh da okačim.

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Тандара броћ Syriza ftw - Page 19 3363120308

Odlican govor, ima samo jednu manu: nije ovo ni govor ni recnik koji ce da cuje, a jos manje da prihvati danasnja Evropa koja misli i ponasa se kao da je prognala, ukinula, ne samo ideologiju, nego i emocije kao itekakvu politicku kategoriju.
Dzaba ovom Grku sve: takozvana Evropa ce radije da se zadovolji ulogom nemilosrdnog uterivaca dugova, nego da ma i pokusa da se okrene viziji koja se izgubila u sitom samozadovoljstvu pobedonosnog kapitalizma koji ne liferuje klasicne liberale koji su itekako znali i umeli da budu idealisticki nastrojeni, nego liferuje obicne ћифте.
I to u ogromnim glasackim kolicinama.

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:48 pm

Njegovo je da kaže šta ima jezikom prave politike. Uostalom, šta drugo može nego da govori istinu, pošto je Grčka suočena sa zahtevima koje nije moguće ispuniti i izgleda da će se ovo završiti baš onako kako Trojka i želi, slamanjem Sirizine vlade.
Meni je apsolutno zastrašujuće da se ECB bavi stvarima kao što je indukovanje bank run-a u Grčkoj. Što se mene tiče, to je na izvestan način ratni čin i u ovom trenutku mi se budućnost kontinenta čini jako mračnom.

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