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Gejmerstina
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- Post n°126
Re: Gejmerstina
hm
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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- Post n°127
Re: Gejmerstina
pa to kazem, igrac nije u pozicji Jack-a vec zapravo krivo osumnjicenog lica. bitna razlika.
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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- Post n°128
Re: Gejmerstina
pa da. to je bitna razlika. mislim ovo je i dalje neki kingovsko-barkerovski horor.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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- Post n°129
Re: Gejmerstina
ostap bender wrote:mislim da ces tako zavrsiti u tamnoj noci gde su sve macke crne. naravno da ljudske igre imaju svoju nasilnu stranu oduvek ali mislim da ima nekih razlika izmedju secret of the monkey island i ovog spree killera.
zapravo koji bi popularni naslov iz 80tih bio ekvivalent witcheru ili ovome po nekom snuff faktoru.
Pa u D&D si oduvek mogao da igras chaotic evil lika.
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My Moon Che Gavara.
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- Post n°130
Re: Gejmerstina
da, ali verovatno se na prste jedne ruke mogu izbrojati moduli koji su pisani sa 'zlim' likovima na pameti.
pazi nisam pametan niti imam izgradjen stav. jednostavno mi se cini da postoji odredjena promena u oslikavanju nasilja u igrama i da je ona zasigurno simptomatska. sta je uzrok, ako je tako, vec je druga prica.
svakako ne mislim da treba 'leciti' igre ali mislim da im treba prici kao bilo kom drugom kulturnom proizvodu.
pazi nisam pametan niti imam izgradjen stav. jednostavno mi se cini da postoji odredjena promena u oslikavanju nasilja u igrama i da je ona zasigurno simptomatska. sta je uzrok, ako je tako, vec je druga prica.
svakako ne mislim da treba 'leciti' igre ali mislim da im treba prici kao bilo kom drugom kulturnom proizvodu.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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- Post n°131
Re: Gejmerstina
Radagast wrote:
igraci se prave da su nesto sto nisu (neprijatelji, policajci i lopovi) i sto mozda i ne zele da budu stvarno.
Ja volim igrice gde sam placenik. To mi je neka kul fantazija. Ides da se profesonalno rokas po raznim drzavama, ratistima i planetama. I to ono sve profi, po ugovoru - ko svajcarska garda. Josako mozes da stavis Indijana Dzons sesirce, jos bolje. U SWToRu sam npr. bounty hunter, i kad odradjujem tezge uvek ti meta ponudi neko ogromno mito ili prospe neku pateticnu pricu, kako ima porodicu ili je smislio lek za sidu. " Zao mi je, gospodjo, ugovor je ugovor. (zvuk blastera)".
PS: A ne bih to radio u RL.
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- Post n°132
Re: Gejmerstina
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- Post n°134
Re: Gejmerstina
Jao, nije valjda Kristinica!
Vertere, ti kupuješ desni populizam za sve pare.
Vertere, ti kupuješ desni populizam za sve pare.
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- Post n°135
Re: Gejmerstina
Vazno je da ti znas stvari kakve zaista jesu. Jebes mi sve ako Miralem nije bio u pravu kad je rekao da ti nisi musko.
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- Post n°136
Re: Gejmerstina
Pa ne vidim ja ništa što ne možeš da vidiš i sam, nego već ti rekoh, Krisitinica je glas najprivilegovanije moguće Amerike, big money-a i republikanske elite iz Enterprise Institute-a, koja kupuja likove poput tebe time što ih huška na feministkinje, gejeve i manjince. Ti to onda kusaš za sve pare, pritom misleći da si hrabri Don Kihot koji juriša na elitističke vetrenjače.
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- Post n°137
Re: Gejmerstina
Pa to, svi smo mi u zabludi i prevareni od strane zlih desnicara, a samo ti znas znanje. Imas li i neki feministicki tekstic da jos malo objasnis ?
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- Post n°138
Re: Gejmerstina
Ma jok, drž se ti Kristinice, ona ti ionako govori sve što želiš da čuješ.
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- Post n°139
Re: Gejmerstina
Verterdegete wrote:Pa to, svi smo mi u zabludi i prevareni od strane zlih desnicara, a samo ti znas znanje. Imas li i neki feministicki tekstic da jos malo objasnis ?
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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- Post n°141
Re: Gejmerstina
Achievmenti su do jaja:
Cheers! - Play Hatred being drunk.
Winners Don't Use Drugs - Execute 20 junkies.
Leon - Kill 100 SWAT Team members.
Mainstream Guy - Kill 50 hipsters.
Feminist - Kill 2,000 males.
Misogynist - Kill 2,000 females.
The Witcher - Dodge 200 times.
You should see a shrink - Play for 50 hours.
Cheers! - Play Hatred being drunk.
Winners Don't Use Drugs - Execute 20 junkies.
Leon - Kill 100 SWAT Team members.
Mainstream Guy - Kill 50 hipsters.
Feminist - Kill 2,000 males.
Misogynist - Kill 2,000 females.
The Witcher - Dodge 200 times.
You should see a shrink - Play for 50 hours.
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- Post n°142
Re: Gejmerstina
Jel igras ti to ili samo gviris?
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"Ne morate krenuti odavde da biste dosli tamo. Moguce je krenuti odavde i vratiti se ponovo tu, ali preko onoga tamo."
Aca Seltik, Sabrana razmisljanja o topologiji, tom cetvrti.
My Moon Che Gavara.
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- Post n°143
Re: Gejmerstina
Pravo da ti kazem, probao bih, al svetski me mrzi. U zadnje vreme imam strpljenja samo za ove krace multiplejer igre (FPS ili MOBAe), gde opikas partiju 15-20 minuta i batalis.
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- Post n°144
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Verterdegete wrote: Pravo da ti kazem, probao bih, al svetski me mrzi
Psihopato! Lenji psihopato!
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Re: Gejmerstina
Nego, ono sto mi je zanimljivo je da je vec nekoliko ljudi (stranci), kao filmsku paralelu Hatredu, navelo Srpski Film.
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What I Got Wrong About Gamergate: A Political Analysis
I think that on the whole my analysis of Gamergate holds up pretty well. Certainly better than most, though that's saying very little (endless "Gamergate is dead/over" pieces weren't ever candidates for the next Cassandra). But I did significantly overestimate the extent to which the right would coopt Gamergate, and I want to take a look at why I got that wrong. Though Dems had attempted to use Gamergate as part of a midterm "war on women" narrative, this was not particularly effective, and so after the election I expected the Republicans and conservative press to jump in and talk about a war on white male nerds or somesuch. Certainly, the left-wing press is talking about Gamergate far less now than it did before the election, while the mainstream press is ignoring it because it is simply not worth the trouble. But while assorted small fringe right groups have tried to coopt Gamergate without much success, the mainstream right didn't take up the mantle of Gamergate in any significant way.
So the question is why right-wing cooptation has not happened anywhere near the extent that I thought it would. The demonization that greeted any resistance to the manufactured Gamergate narrative (Hi!) made me think that we might see a breed of "Rand Paul Democrats" in the same way that you got Reagan Democrats as a result of the Great Society and the Civil Rights Act--except this time liberals achieved far less in the bargain. As I wrote in my column this week, this may well still happen, but it won't be because of Gamergate. While Gamergate displays widespread alienation from the loudest and most irritating parts of online left culture, Gamergate has not become the "conservative/reactionary"-identified movement that its detractors insist it was/is, and which I feared it would become. I attribute this to three factors:
1. Gamergate consists primarily of secular, vaguely liberalish types, alongside a mix of moderates, libertarians, and heterodox conservatives. None of them are particularly keen on right-wing dogma. It's a sign of just how sheerly toxic right-wing press is that none of these people are keen on touching Fox, Rush, Hannity, etc. Rather, you get Breitbart UK (the "UK" is important), Reason, Spiked, and a few bloggers at the Daily Caller. But that's as far as Gamergate will generally go. They do not want Fox to become their standard bearer. They trust the rest of the press less than they used to, but Fox is still a dirty word to them.
2. Contrariwise, orthodox right-wingers see Gamergate's mixed political leanings as unreliable and unpredictable, and so weren't hugely eager to bring them into the fold, lest they foment more right-wing civil war with their crazy views. You don't see Cathy Young too often on Fox News either (or Milo Yiannopoulos for that matter). The right is uneasy about Chuck Johnson for this reason; they like it when he goes after people they hate, but then he goes after Allen West. Independent, loosely affiliated actors make dangerous icons.
3. Most significantly, the right was able to adopt Gamergate's playbook without coopting Gamergate. The reactions you see to incidents like Bahar Mustafa and Sad/Rabid Puppies fall far more into the traditional left/right divide than GG vs. anti-GG. (And no, Sad/Rabid Puppies and Gamergate are not the same. Pay attention.) This suggests that while the right was hesitant to get engaged with Gamergate because of its associations with harassment, 4chan, hardcore libertarianism, trans* issues, and all sorts of godless heathen degenerate behavior (as you can see from that list, some of it approved by the left, some of it not), they were paying close attention to the strategies and tactics, and made sure to keep them in store for the *next* time that Oberlin nuttiness or identity politics or "social justice" or whatever coughs up an embarrassing story that the right could hang around the neck of "Democrats" or "feminism" or "liberalism." There was no need to invoke the name of Gamergate. Gamergate had too much moral baggage and ideological confusion for them--something I should have realized--but the content and tactics of Gamergate's critique of "social justice warriors" resonated with them loud and clear.
In some ways, this is a better outcome than what I expected. It gave the US left (including the Dems) time to mount their own counterargument to the social justice movement and thereby not appear beholden to it--the quick adoption of "social justice warrior" as a negative stereotype speaks to this. I'm sure Hillary will have her "Sister Souljah" movement sometime next year just as her husband did in 1992--instead of Sister Souljah, I imagine it will be some radical feminist.
The right, in fact, missed an opportunity last year to establish the "SJW" as a stereotype of all Dems and manufacture a narrative out of it. I'm sure they will still try to do this, but the Dems have some time to prepare for it and tamp down the endless outrage emanating from the most doctrinaire of the left-wing outlets. Hence the current raft of "Students are so emotional and scary!" articles from Laura Kipnis and TPM and Vox and the like, and Michelle Obama telling Oberlin students to STFU. Some lefties are starting to run out of the burning social justice house, claiming they didn't set fire to it: "I was abused by these social justice maniacs! I wasn't one of them!" Disingenuousness aside, that will make it harder for the social justice movement to be turned into an icon of All That is Wrong with the Democrats. There was a moment of opportunity where, had the right taken the risk of embracing Gamergate, they could have attracted a lot of left-leaning people by taking on an ideology that was peaking at that very time. This was, I believe, precisely Christina Hoff Sommers' thinking. It's too late to do that now. It might not have worked anyway (it was a risky strategy because of factors 1 and 2), but I was scared that it would.
My mistake, then, was thinking that because the Dems saw Gamergate as a short-term political football, the Repubs did as well. They didn't, because the timing was wrong for them. The Repubs were concerned with their base, just as the Dems were concerned with theirs, but Gamergate was only a relevant issue (pro AND con) for the Dem base. Had Gamergate rolled around a year or two later, I believe the right would have tried to take up the Gamergate mantle more aggressively to peel off support from Hillary, but 2014 was too early for it to seem like a good idea. The long-term outlook was too unpredictable.
Instead, you are seeing a slower movement to peel off anti-social justice Dems through less orthodox right-wing venues like the Washington Examiner (keep an eye on Ashe Schow, Dems; hopefully the right is too dumb to allow her to be effective), Breitbart UK, and possibly the Daily Caller. It provides the best opportunity for Republicans to make inroads among the millennials that they have totally lost on social issues. They can't come out loudly for gay marriage or anything, but they can inveigh against the anti-tolerance of certain obnoxious leftist factions, and I'm sure they will. But the left now seems to be trying to rein in those excesses well ahead of Hillary's candidacy, to prevent the Repubs from capitalizing on it too heavily. Who will win the race?
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cekaj, da li znas sta je sustina sad/rabid puppies skandala?
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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- Post n°149
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Boli me patka, nisam ni cuo za to, i bas me briga. Ne znam zasto me to pitas, izuzev ako trazis metu da joj suknes ono sto ti je trenutno na umu povodom toga.
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- Post n°150
Re: Gejmerstina
Jbt, kakvo govno od gejmergejterskoj humora. Samo joj treba kurac, hahahaha!
Stvarno Vertere, this is below you.
Stvarno Vertere, this is below you.
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"Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."
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