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    Post by konjski nil Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:34 pm

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:53 pm

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:53 pm

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    Post by Del Cap Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:05 am

    The mystery of the ‘secret non-Trump voter’
    The former US president continued to underperform the pollsters’ predictions on Super Tuesday

    Peter Spiegel

    If there’s anything we’ve learned about American politics in the age of Trump it is this: the pollsters almost always get it wrong.

    When the billionaire real estate developer first burst on to the political scene eight years ago, public opinion surveys tended to undercount his supporters, suggesting there were “secret Trump voters” who were too abashed to publicly admit their preference for a candidate so divisive.

    But a strange thing has happened on the way to the 2024 Republican convention. The pollsters are still getting it wrong, but in the other direction.

    Heading into Super Tuesday, Trump had underperformed the published polls in every big primary contest. In New Hampshire, surveys ahead of the primary showed the former president beating his last remaining rival, Nikki Haley, by nearly 18 percentage points; he won by 11. In South Carolina, he was polling 28 points ahead of Haley, but he won by 20. In Michigan, the polls said 57, but he won by a “mere” 42.

    Even as he romped to victory on Super Tuesday, Trump continued to show a striking ability to attract Republican voters at a significantly lower rate than anticipated.

    Take Virginia, a state that was closely watched on the night because the Haley camp thought she could peel off moderate Republicans and independents in the northern suburbs that border Washington, DC. In surveys ahead of the vote, Trump was consistently 60 points ahead of Haley, who was the preference of only about 15 per cent of Republicans surveyed. Instead, Haley finished with nearly 35 per cent of the vote, pulling to within 30 points of Trump.

    The feat was repeated all over the Super Tuesday map. In some states, the difference was eye-popping. In Vermont, the final big poll published before Tuesday’s vote had Trump ahead 61-31. Instead, Haley won. In other states, such as Texas, the Trump slump between pollsters and voters was barely 5 percentage points.

    Taken individually, the results could be caveated away. Some of these states were very lightly polled ahead of election day; others held “open” primaries that allowed Democrats to cast ballots in the Republican contest. But taken together, a pattern is emerging: instead of a “secret Trump voter”, there appears to be a “secret non-Trump voter” wandering the countryside.

    The first thing to say about “secret non-Trump voters” is that their existence should not come as a surprise. They were out in force during the 2022 midterm elections, where a Republican party that was expected to rack up huge majorities in the House of Representatives and take back control of the Senate did neither.

    The second is that they seem to congregate in prosperous suburbs that have traditionally been prime hunting grounds for Republican candidates.
    With their desire for low taxes and light-touch regulation, American suburbs have been natural Republican constituencies, especially at a time of voter malaise about the US economy. But Trump’s erratic behaviour and contempt for democratic norms have produced a notable shift in suburban voting patterns.

    There is also mounting evidence that Republican women in these suburbs have turned against Trump in even greater numbers because of the Supreme Court’s 2022 decision to overturn abortion rights. Indeed, even in rock-ribbed Republican constituencies, there are reports of women increasingly fearful about accessing basic obstetric and gynaecological procedures in a legally precarious environment for their physicians. It’s not hard to see why they might vote against Trump, but keep their intentions hidden from pollsters.

    The Trump team was right to be in a triumphant mood on Tuesday night, after thumping victories across the Super Tuesday map. But the results also revealed a soft underbelly to the former president’s candidacy. It is in the suburbs that the 2024 election will be won or lost. Once solidly Republican communities on the outskirts of Atlanta, Philadelphia and Phoenix are no longer solid. If these “secret non-Trump voters” show up for Joe Biden in November, the pollsters who are now showing the sitting president falling behind his predecessor will be proven wrong again.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:13 am

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    Post by Old Dry Keith Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:39 am

    imam utisak da će ovo u Gazi otići u takvom pravcu da se ne isplati davati bilo kakve projekcije u narednih mesec-dva.


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    Post by Erős Pista Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:23 am

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/06/nikki-haley-drops-out


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    Post by boomer crook Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:55 am

    One Eyed Bob wrote:imam utisak da će ovo u Gazi otići u takvom pravcu da se ne isplati davati bilo kakve projekcije u narednih mesec-dva.

    sto je blize novembar bice ludje


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    Post by Tovar Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:26 am

    Dao bih plaću da mogu gledati predsjedničku debatu Biden - Trump. To bi bilo kao nešto iz filmova Mela Brooksa. Nažalost, neće se dogoditi jer su u oba tabora svjesni kakvim kandidatima barataju.
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    Post by beatakeshi Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:36 am

    Mislim da to mora da se desi.
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    Post by Tovar Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:58 am

    Čini mi se da nemaju tu obavezu. Orangutan u ovoj kampanji nije sudjelovao u republikanskim debatama, šta bi se on petljao s kojekakvim patuljcima poput Haley i Desantisa?! Rizik debate Biden - Trump u ovako tijesnim izborima je ogroman. Šta ako Bidena iznebuha upitaju za datum rođenja? Okej, znam da se oko formata debate pažljivo pregovara da se što manje toga prepusti slučaju. Ali, svejedno, ne znam hoće li se upuštati u to. U svakom slučaju, volio bih da se dogodi taj cirkus.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:09 am

    Dali bi Bajdenu paket i po Ginko Bilobe pre debate otprilike.
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    Post by Old Dry Keith Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:19 am

    Mislim da je maksimum koji možemo očekivati nekakva poludebata gde kandidatima postavljaju jedno po jedno pitanje, bez direktne polemike.


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:20 am

    Bajden koji muca i Tramp koji izmišlja nove reči. Obojica ne mogu da pogode ime osobe o kojoj pričaju.


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:21 am

    One Eyed Bob wrote:Mislim da je maksimum koji možemo očekivati nekakva poludebata gde kandidatima postavljaju jedno po jedno pitanje, bez direktne polemike.
    Tramp će da ćuti dok Bajden odgovara? Sad si me nasmejao.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Old Dry Keith Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:27 am

    Takva im je bila debata 2020. Upadice su bile tehnički onemogućene, bez direktne polemike.


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:31 am

    Tehnicki, Tramp uvek moze da ustane i prikrade se Bajdenu iza ledja i pravi face dok ovaj prica, kao sto je to radio 2016.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Old Dry Keith Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:32 am

    Ako uopšte budu u istom studiju  Predsednički izbori u SAD 2024 - Page 10 3579118792


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    Post by Del Cap Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:27 am

    Al ste zaostali. Treba da pregovaraju oko AI generated debate gde će na sceni biti njihovi hologrami a negde u bunkerima Kvantika dva tima sa dva GPT generatora poželjnih odgovora i uz konsultacije sa dva kandidata koji kuliraju negde daleko samo izbacuju odgovore za živu publiku u studiju.
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    Post by beatakeshi Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:41 am

    Možda geknu obojica do novembra, pa se onda žene rvu u blatu i čupaju za kosu.
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    Post by паће Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:50 am

    Можда су већ побацали кашичице злаћане, ал' не сме нико да им каже.


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    Post by beatakeshi Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:22 am

    Eeee, kad bi se ova dvojica počupala za kosu...
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    Post by паће Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:26 am

    ...у блату...


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    Post by boomer crook Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:20 am

    molim vas jedem


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