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    boomer crook

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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:27 am

    aman ljudi samardzic je bio i ostao sumanuti islamofob. sto kaze jednoj moj drugarici: evo mora sada ovako ali jebiga znas mene - mrzim zelene.

    zaista su inace retki ljudi u srbiji koji podrzavaju nekriticki izrael. vece su stetocine oni koji su na protest podrske palestini vukljajli ruske zastave posto ubiti 200k cecenskih civila i postaviti im na vlast kolonijalnog arkana je sasvim ok.

    da se ne zajebavamo niko se ovde ne odredjuje po nekom principu vec po tupavom anti-amerikanizmu ili glupavom 'amerikanizmu'.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:29 am

    mislim ja se secam kada je  nakon beslana pozivano na njukovanje meke i medine (preuvelicavanje koje se povija ka istini). samo je pitanje ko su zrtve i sta to za NAS znaci.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
    Del Cap

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    Post by Del Cap Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:39 am

    boomer crook wrote:aman ljudi samardzic je bio i ostao sumanuti islamofob. sto kaze jednoj moj drugarici: evo mora sada ovako ali jebiga znas mene - mrzim zelene.

    zaista su inace retki ljudi u srbiji koji podrzavaju nekriticki izrael. vece su stetocine oni koji su na protest podrske palestini vukljajli ruske zastave posto ubiti 200k cecenskih civila i postaviti im na vlast kolonijalnog arkana je sasvim ok.

    da se ne zajebavamo niko se ovde ne odredjuje po nekom principu vec po tupavom anti-amerikanizmu ili glupavom 'amerikanizmu'.

    jeste, pa i o ukrajini se dele po liniji "zapad-rusija", gde ukrajinci sami skoro da nisu tema, a rusija je umnogome anti-amerikanizam kao takav a ona sama (rusija) neka zgodna tačka oko koje može da se koalira pre nego temeljno shvaćen spoljni faktor.
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:41 am

    Put do tog mesta, izgleda ne može iz bolnice da se stigne tamo.

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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:42 am

    @delcap: jeste. i jedina je istina da oba rata mogu da stanu cim bibi ili putin rese da prestanu da nekoga mlate. i to je zapravo i jedina slicnost.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by Del Cap Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:45 am

    jep.
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:51 am

    Likudov i opozicioni poslanik zajedno predlažu da EU i SAD prihvate izbeglice iz Gaze, Netanjahuov ministar finansija podržava:

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    https://twitter.com/bezalelsm/status/1724318457439625302
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:56 am

    manje crnaca, manje rasizma logika


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by konjski nil Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:03 am

    par miliona migranata bi nam fino oborilo cenu rada tkd podržavam Блиски исток - Page 36 2304934895


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    Del Cap

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    Post by Del Cap Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:04 am

    Imaju u svojim bezbednjačkim dokumentima od odmah posle 7.10. ideju da će xyz zemalja primiti te ljude, po Mediteranu, vrv i šire. Ovo je operacionalizacija.
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    Post by One Eyed Bob Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:13 am

    There was a tiny flaw in the plan...it was bollocks, što kaže Blackadder.


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    Post by One Eyed Bob Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:14 am

    EU i SAD treba da omoguće etničko čišćenje i istovremeno apsorbuju par miliona ljudi sa Bliskog istoka. Kako razbesneti i levicu i desnicu istovremeno.


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    Post by rumbeando Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:28 am

    NPR-ova reportaža sa Zapadne obale: "Intervjuisali smo palestinskog poljoprivrednika, a onda su se pojavili dron i vojnici"

    https://www.npr.org/2023/11/13/1211987812/israel-hamas-west-bank-gaza-war-conflict-idf
    Del Cap

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    Post by Del Cap Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:38 am

    One Eyed Bob wrote:EU i SAD treba da omoguće etničko čišćenje i istovremeno apsorbuju par miliona ljudi sa Bliskog istoka. Kako razbesneti i levicu i desnicu istovremeno.


    Ja iskreno mislim da je šansa veća od 50:50 da će sa te strane biti ozbiljno razmotrena ta ideja, uz sondažu terena kod niza potencijalnih primalaca* raseljenika* uključujući i EU i SAD.
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    Post by MNE Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:41 am

    Nije etničko čišćenje kad mi to radimo.
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    Post by beatakeshi Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:44 am

    Šta kaže spouksmen idf-a no ovo? Sledeći put će mu nađi džepno izdanje Majn kampfa pa ga neće ni vraćati.
    (glede reportaže)
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    Post by plachkica Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:19 pm

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:56 pm

    Nicole Deitelhoff, Rainer Forst, Klaus Günther and Jürgen Habermas

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    Principles of solidarity. An opinion


    The current situation, created by the cruelty attack by Hamas and Israel's response to it, has led to a cascade of moral and political statements and demonstrations. We believe that with all the conflicting views that are expressed, there are some principles that should not be disputed. They underlie the well-understood solidarity with Israel and Jews in Germany.


    The Hamas massacre, with the declared intention of generally destroying Jewish life, prompted Israel to counterattack it. How this fundamentally justified counterattack is conducted is controversial; Principles of proportionality, the avoidance of civilian casualties and the conduct of war with the prospect of future peace must be guiding. Despite all concerns about the fate of the Palestinian people, the standards of assessment will completely slip if genocidal intentions are attributed to Israeli action.


    In particular, Israel's actions in no way justify anti-Semitic reactions, especially not in Germany. It is unbearable that Jews in Germany are again exposed to threats against life and limb and must be afraid of physical violence on the street. A political culture is associated with the democratic self-image of the Federal Republic, which is based on the obligation to respect human dignity, for which Jewish life and Israel's right to exist are central elements that are particularly worth protecting in the light of the mass crimes of the Nazi era. The commitment to this is fundamental to our political coexistence. The elementary rights to freedom and physical integrity as well as protection against racist defamation are indivisible and apply equally to everyone. Those in our country must adhere to this, who have cultivated anti-Semitic affects and beliefs behind all kinds of excuses and now see a welcome opportunity to speak them uninhibitedly.


    Nicole Deitelhoff, Rainer Forst, Klaus Günther and Jürgen Habermas


    Principles of solidarity. A statement
    The current situation created by Hamas ‘ extreme atrocity and Israel’s response to it has led to a cascade of moral and political statements and protests. We believe that amidst all the conflicting views being expressed, there are some principles that should not be disputed. They are the basis of a rightly understood solidarity with Israel and Jews in Germany.


    The Hamas massacre with the declared intention of eliminating Jewish life in general has prompted Israel to strike back. How this retaliation, which is justified in principle, is carried out is the subject of controversial debate; principles of proportionality, the prevention of civilian casualties and the waging of a war with the prospect of future peace must be the guiding principles. Despite all the concern for the fate of the Palestinian population, however, the standards of judgment slip completely when genocidal intentions are attributed to Israel’s actions.



    In particular, Israel’s actions in no way justify anti-Semitic reactions, especially not in Germany. It is intolerable that Jews in Germany are once again exposed to threats to life and limb and have to fear physical violence on the streets. The democratic ethos of the Federal Republic of Germany, which is oriented towards the obligation to respect human dignity, is linked to a political culture for which Jewish life and Israel’s right to exist are central elements worthy of special protection in light of the mass crimes of the Nazi era. The commitment to this is fundamental to our political life. The elementary rights to freedom and physical integrity as well as to protection from racist defamation are indivisible and apply equally to all. All those in our country who have cultivated anti-Semitic sentiments and convictions behind all kinds of pretexts and now see a welcome opportunity to express them uninhibitedly must also abide by this.

    https://www.normativeorders.net/2023/grundsatze-der-solidaritat/
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:31 pm

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    Post by Guest Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:55 pm

    boomer crook wrote:
    da se ne zajebavamo niko se ovde ne odredjuje po nekom principu vec po tupavom anti-amerikanizmu ili glupavom 'amerikanizmu'.
    Exactly.
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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:00 pm

    Nektivni Ugnelj wrote:Nicole Deitelhoff, Rainer Forst, Klaus Günther and Jürgen Habermas

    google translate

    Principles of solidarity. An opinion


    The current situation, created by the cruelty attack by Hamas and Israel's response to it, has led to a cascade of moral and political statements and demonstrations. We believe that with all the conflicting views that are expressed, there are some principles that should not be disputed. They underlie the well-understood solidarity with Israel and Jews in Germany.


    The Hamas massacre, with the declared intention of generally destroying Jewish life, prompted Israel to counterattack it. How this fundamentally justified counterattack is conducted is controversial; Principles of proportionality, the avoidance of civilian casualties and the conduct of war with the prospect of future peace must be guiding. Despite all concerns about the fate of the Palestinian people, the standards of assessment will completely slip if genocidal intentions are attributed to Israeli action.


    In particular, Israel's actions in no way justify anti-Semitic reactions, especially not in Germany. It is unbearable that Jews in Germany are again exposed to threats against life and limb and must be afraid of physical violence on the street. A political culture is associated with the democratic self-image of the Federal Republic, which is based on the obligation to respect human dignity, for which Jewish life and Israel's right to exist are central elements that are particularly worth protecting in the light of the mass crimes of the Nazi era. The commitment to this is fundamental to our political coexistence. The elementary rights to freedom and physical integrity as well as protection against racist defamation are indivisible and apply equally to everyone. Those in our country must adhere to this, who have cultivated anti-Semitic affects and beliefs behind all kinds of excuses and now see a welcome opportunity to speak them uninhibitedly.


    Nicole Deitelhoff, Rainer Forst, Klaus Günther and Jürgen Habermas


    Principles of solidarity. A statement
    The current situation created by Hamas ‘ extreme atrocity and Israel’s response to it has led to a cascade of moral and political statements and protests. We believe that amidst all the conflicting views being expressed, there are some principles that should not be disputed. They are the basis of a rightly understood solidarity with Israel and Jews in Germany.


    The Hamas massacre with the declared intention of eliminating Jewish life in general has prompted Israel to strike back. How this retaliation, which is justified in principle, is carried out is the subject of controversial debate; principles of proportionality, the prevention of civilian casualties and the waging of a war with the prospect of future peace must be the guiding principles. Despite all the concern for the fate of the Palestinian population, however, the standards of judgment slip completely when genocidal intentions are attributed to Israel’s actions.



    In particular, Israel’s actions in no way justify anti-Semitic reactions, especially not in Germany. It is intolerable that Jews in Germany are once again exposed to threats to life and limb and have to fear physical violence on the streets. The democratic ethos of the Federal Republic of Germany, which is oriented towards the obligation to respect human dignity, is linked to a political culture for which Jewish life and Israel’s right to exist are central elements worthy of special protection in light of the mass crimes of the Nazi era. The commitment to this is fundamental to our political life. The elementary rights to freedom and physical integrity as well as to protection from racist defamation are indivisible and apply equally to all. All those in our country who have cultivated anti-Semitic sentiments and convictions behind all kinds of pretexts and now see a welcome opportunity to express them uninhibitedly must also abide by this.

    https://www.normativeorders.net/2023/grundsatze-der-solidaritat/
    Despite all concerns about the fate of the Palestinian people... Jewish life and Israel’s right to exist are central elements worthy of special protection. 
    Pu!


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    Post by Del Cap Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:09 pm

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    Post by Del Cap Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:18 pm

    Kakav svojevoljni nacoški zaokret.

    Da je do principa, zalagali bi se da jači ne tlače slabije, razumevajući da u tim pozicijama mogu biti različiti kolektivi u različita vremena. Ovako, na pijedestal stave 1 nacion i onda razvijaju "principijelnu" poziciju iz toga, pozivajući na partikularnu istoriju. Solidna bedastoća.
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:48 pm

    Turska je podnela tužbu protiv izraelskog premijera Benjamina Netanjahua Međunarodnom krivičnom sudu, optužujući ga za genocid u Pojasu Gaze, rekao je Metin Kulunk, advokat vladajuće Turske Partije pravde i razvoja na društvenoj mreži X.


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    Međuopštinski pustolov.

    Zli stolar.
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    Post by Del Cap Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:50 pm



    Mora biti da je splet tunela sa komandnim centrom hamasa odmah ispod toga pa prosto nije bilo druge opcije.

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