UK - Politika i društvo
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bemty wrote:Летећи Полип wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/03/keir-starmer-son-toolmaker-but-different-class-problem-for-labour
sve tacno. meni su starmerovi nastupi sokantno otvoreno neoliberalni, i potpuno je jasno da ce napredak u stvarima koje su ljudima bitne (kao sto je nhs) biti jako spor jer on ima taj isti menadzerski mentalitet koji stvara probleme dok se predstavlja kao da ih resava. kao da ne razume da postoje i drugi nacini razmisljanja. bice naravno manje lose nego pod torijevcima, bice neke redistribucije kapitala kroz porez i ulaganje u infrastrukturu i to je jako bitno, ali osnovni uzroci koji vode opstim trendovima ovde se nece mnogo pomeriti sa ovim izborima.
Ај, по стоти пут: не постоји редистрибуција, илити свако уређење је редистрибуција. Свака промена расподеле ће се звати напретком ако се богати још богате, и прерасподелом ако покуша да ту мало повуче ручну.
Кад кажу „прерасподела“, то треба да звучи као ревизионизам у односу на претходно стање (што и јесте, сваки пут, без обзира ко га ради), које се ту имплицитно сматра за добро природно и органско.
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cousin for roasting the rakija
зрењанинска клима је идеална - кад има блата, нема прашине, кад има прашине, нема снега, а кад има снега нема блата.
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Veliki je pproblem sa tim "pre" i "re"
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The shadow chancellor has told the BBC Labour would not reinstate a bankers' bonus cap that was scrapped last year by the Conservative government.
It comes as Rachel Reeves set out Labour's plans to boost economic growth through the financial services sector.
She described the sector as one of the UK's greatest assets which the party would "unashamedly champion".
It marks a big change from the policies of the previous leadership and past criticism of the bonus cap removal.
A maximum bonus, equivalent to 200% of bankers' regular pay, was introduced across the European Union (EU) to deter the excessive risk-taking many blamed for the financial crisis.
Kakvi laburisti, takvi i prioriteti. Da dodam da je Starmer obećao i da će riješiti problem imigranata (barem onih koji se živi na gumenjacima dočepaju Otoka), što konzervativcima nije uspjelo, pa su ih laburisti u kampanji i time mlatili. E sad, kako će to napraviti, hoće li te nesretnike slati u Ruandu ili im mitraljirati čamce, nisu baš objasnili. Ali, to je muzika za uši dojučerašnjih konzervativnih glasača.
I onda dobiješ ovo...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/03/the-sun-support-labour-general-election
Fali još samo da i Daily Hail amenuje Starmera. Da se ne zaboravi i da je to lik koji je mrtav-hladan izjavio da Izrael ima pravo Gazi isključiti struju i vodu.
It comes as Rachel Reeves set out Labour's plans to boost economic growth through the financial services sector.
She described the sector as one of the UK's greatest assets which the party would "unashamedly champion".
It marks a big change from the policies of the previous leadership and past criticism of the bonus cap removal.
A maximum bonus, equivalent to 200% of bankers' regular pay, was introduced across the European Union (EU) to deter the excessive risk-taking many blamed for the financial crisis.
Kakvi laburisti, takvi i prioriteti. Da dodam da je Starmer obećao i da će riješiti problem imigranata (barem onih koji se živi na gumenjacima dočepaju Otoka), što konzervativcima nije uspjelo, pa su ih laburisti u kampanji i time mlatili. E sad, kako će to napraviti, hoće li te nesretnike slati u Ruandu ili im mitraljirati čamce, nisu baš objasnili. Ali, to je muzika za uši dojučerašnjih konzervativnih glasača.
I onda dobiješ ovo...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/03/the-sun-support-labour-general-election
Fali još samo da i Daily Hail amenuje Starmera. Da se ne zaboravi i da je to lik koji je mrtav-hladan izjavio da Izrael ima pravo Gazi isključiti struju i vodu.
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Na danasnjim izborima bi najveca vest posle izuzetno loseg rezultata Torijevaca bio uspeh Reform UK tj. Faraza sa nekih 15% ali oni ce biti srecni ako budu imali 2-3 poslanika u Parlamentu.
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Uzas za Torijevce, ali opstace kao stranka
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Reform 13!
SNP 10!
LibDems 61
SNP 10!
LibDems 61
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Ovo je 10 godina LAB vlade
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čekam da vidim islington north....
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Del Cap wrote:čekam da vidim islington north....
bukvy jedino sto me zanima
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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Jeremy Corbyn is on course for a narrow victory in Islington, according to a Labour source.
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Prof Sir John Curtice, the psephologist who led the team that produced the exit poll, said early results are consistent with widespread expectations of a low turnout.
Speaking to the BBC, Curtice said:
We may discover we are heading towards one of the lower turnouts of general elections in postwar electoral history.
He noted that there was “not that much difference between Conservative and Labour in much of what they were offering the electorate”.
The lowest general election turnout since 1918 was in 2001, when it was 59.4%. The highest was in 1950, when it was 83.9%. For most of the postwar period turnout was regularly in the 70s, or higher, and in 1997 it was 71.4%. But it has never returned to those levels since the sharp fall in 2001. At the last election it was 67.3%, down by 1.5 percentage points compared with 2017 (68.8%).
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Corbyn (Independent) 49.2%
Nargund (Labour) 34.4%
Kates (Green) 5.4%
UK general election 2024: live results in full
Nargund (Labour) 34.4%
Kates (Green) 5.4%
UK general election 2024: live results in full
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Pa nije bas narrow.
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meanwhile, Jacob Rees-Mogg has lost his seat to Labour while standing next to a man wearing a baked beans balaclava pic.twitter.com/wCQNaNmXoF
— Matthew Champion (@matthewchampion) July 5, 2024
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"Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."
Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
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Nema sanse da torijevci stignu do 131. Ima jos 40 da se prebroji a oni su na 106
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LAB u apsolutnim brojevima dobili manje nego 2019. REF pokupio veliki broj CON glasova. CON se raspali.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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Pobeda strategije cuti, ne talasaj i cekaj svoj red.
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"Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."
Dragoslav Bokan, Novi putevi oftalmologije
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boomer crook wrote:LAB u apsolutnim brojevima dobili manje nego 2019. REF pokupio veliki broj CON glasova. CON se raspali.
Jeste. Ali da nije bilo rata u Gazi LAB bi dobio tipa 440-450 poslanika, a Cons bi bili blizu nestanka.
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Mislim, uopste dobiti izbore za LAB je vraški teško kad su u opoziciji. Tako je naherena i scena i sistem i populacija.
This makes Keir Starmer only the fourth Labour leader in history to win a parliamentary majority (the others being Tony Blair, Harold Wilson and Clement Attlee).
This makes Keir Starmer only the fourth Labour leader in history to win a parliamentary majority (the others being Tony Blair, Harold Wilson and Clement Attlee).
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Erős Pista wrote:Pa nije bas narrow.
Naravno da nije.
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- Post n°875
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Erős Pista wrote:Pobeda strategije cuti, ne talasaj i cekaj svoj red.
doslovce. zato su i nogirali ljude koji su lajkovali 'nepodobne' tvitove.
ali prava prica ovih izbora moze biti REF. da su torijevci jos malo implodirali REF bi bio put u buducnost za njih. ovako videcemo.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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