Rat u Ukrajini

Filipenko wrote:

Mór Thököly wrote:
Elem

Bulgaria's Finance Minister and Deputy PM Assen Vasilev says Bulgargaz won't renew its long-term supply contract with Gazprom which expires at the end of the year. Currently, over 90% of gas is imported from Russia.
https://t.co/V35RFzfIZn

— Dimitar Bechev (@DimitarBechev) March 19, 2022

Mudar covek je jednom rekao, izmedju ostalog poznajuci Vulgare:

Filipenko wrote:


Po toj logici, i Putin ima nesumnjivo opravdane razloge. Samo sto zmirkas na oba oka u toj situaciji.

S druge strane, ja ne gledam svet kroz idiotsku crno-belu prizmu, niti sam posebno na strani Ukrajine ili Rusije. Ponajmanje sam Rusofil. Vi prozapadno orijentisani ste to iz raspolozenja, ne iz vrednosti ili sustine. Vi danas zivite u prozapadnoj drzavi koju zapad podrzava, kada rascistite sa sobom da je zaista tako, pre ili kasnije idete da pred Vucica bacate cvece. U tom hipotetickom scenariju nestali biste brzinom svetlosti od bilo koje strane, jer dok rascivijate otkud to da zapad podrzava po potrebi naciste, esenesovce ili teroriste, zakucace vam na vrata ko stigne. Za pocetak - momak/devojka iz esenesa za siguran glas.

U realnosti, dovijate se ovde po forumu u stilu Kostunice za formalne razloge koji bi postavili situaciju tako da ste vi 100% u pravu a svi ostali 100% u krivu, te snizavate kvalitet diskusije ili je eliminisete u potpunosti. Samo sto zivot tako ne funkcionise. Da li ce ruska vojska da se raspadne u roku od mesec dana kako tvrdi Minhauzelenski, ili ce pregaziti sve do Uzgoroda, mene licno bas briga. Samo vidim dve hipoteticke koristi - ne bi bilo lose da kod Uzgoroda imamo konekciju na Rusiju i ruski gas jer bi to znacilo em sigurnije snabdevanje em jeftiniji gas (sa samo Madjarskom izmedju nas), a sa druge strane ovo je lekcija kako mi moramo sa Crnogorcima. Jednog dana. Sa sprskom Spartom kao Epaminonda sa pravom Spartom.

Ono kada ti zivot daje za pravo   Ili, sto bi nerazumni za gore boldovano rekli:

Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:
Sve ovo posle je jezivo lupetanje, a B3 je lom mozga.

Ko se sprema da kad-tad utepa Crnu Goru i Vulgariju, i optimizuje racunajuci na najgore neprijateljske akte i nozeve u ledja otuda, nece nikad pogresiti.

Mariupol. There are practically no people on the streets. Abandoned Tesla stands in the middle of all the destruction @elonmusk pic.twitter.com/mzsxnGXAtK

— Xenta (@Xenta777) March 20, 2022

Николаев
Въезд в город. pic.twitter.com/YFZEvdZgch

— Anri Tina (@Anri__Tina) March 19, 2022

Mór Thököly wrote:[size=35]

To be clear, I'm not saying there wasn't a missile launch of some description, or that evidence won't emerge in the coming days.

But there's *no* evidence at present, and the information provided by the Russian Ministry of Defence was deliberately deceptive.

— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) March 19, 2022

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Mór Thököly wrote:Kod Grkovog plana ima par problema

Rusi mozda.dogovore primirije, ali nema sanse da se povuku pre potpisanog sporazuma

Sta znaci da US garantuje sporazum, da li onda ulazi u rat ako ga Rusija prekrsi?

Da li je uopste Putinu clanstvo UA u Natou bilo primarni okidac? (mada je.mozda vaznije to sto bi tako nesto mogao da pokaze kao nekakvu pobedu)

Sta je ta nova arhitektura, jer Amerkinaci nece pristati na ukidanje prosirenja, to nema sanse

kojot wrote:Izvinjavam se na off topiku

Ima prijatelja iz Ukrajine koji godinama radi kao sportski novinar, takodje i kao komentator NBA utakmica. Sada je u Zaporozju i bez posla naravno, a rado bi radio kao izvestac za neke nase medije. Znam da ovde ima novinara ili ljudi koji imaju prijatelje koji su novinari pa ako neko moze da pomogne sa kontaktima bio bih zahvalan.

Летећи Полип wrote:

China's Foreign Ministry just poured cold water on my theory of a possible rift with Russia over Ukraine.

It condemned "countries which thought they could dominate the world by winning the Cold War" and "continued to advance NATO's eastward expansion for five rounds." https://t.co/vgUDQ0R2Pn pic.twitter.com/RnaGKDTNzV

— Clint Ehrlich (@ClintEhrlich) March 18, 2022

Unvaccinated Canadians are about 12 times more likely than those who received three doses to believe Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was justified, according to a new survey.https://t.co/prKm0SAXa7

— Hamilton Spectator (@TheSpec) March 19, 2022

The poll found 26 per cent of those who identified as unvaccinated agreed the Russian invasion is justified, with another 35 per cent not offering an opinion. This compared to only two per cent of surveyed Canadians who said they had three doses of the COVID-19 vaccine and who supported the attack, and four per cent who offered no view. (...)
While 88 per cent of vaccinated Canadians agree Russia is committing war crimes during the widely condemned invasion, 32 per cent of unvaccinated people do.
The study concludes the results point “to the highly corrosive influences of disinformation.”
“This is definitely a new and bluntly insidious force that’s contributing to polarization and disinformation and poor decision-making. And it doesn’t seem to be going away. Things are getting worse,” said Graves. “I don’t think this is because those people had an ingrained sympathy to the Russians. They’re reading this online, they’re consuming this from the same sources that were giving them the anti-vax stuff.”

MNE wrote:

Mór Thököly wrote:Kod Grkovog plana ima par problema

Rusi mozda.dogovore primirije, ali nema sanse da se povuku pre potpisanog sporazuma

Sta znaci da US garantuje sporazum, da li onda ulazi u rat ako ga Rusija prekrsi?

Da li je uopste Putinu clanstvo UA u Natou bilo primarni okidac? (mada je.mozda vaznije to sto bi tako nesto mogao da pokaze kao nekakvu pobedu)

Sta je ta nova arhitektura, jer Amerkinaci nece pristati na ukidanje prosirenja, to nema sanse

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has suspended 11 political parties allegedly tied to Russia, saying that "activities by politicians aimed at discord and collaboration will not succeed."

Ukraine's current martial law grants him the power to ban such parties. pic.twitter.com/OfQxH6vrOE

— DW News (@dwnews) March 20, 2022

#Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has signed a decree that combines all national TV channels into one platform, citing the importance of a “unified information policy” under martial law.https://t.co/DQvGRTc0GB

— Al Arabiya English (@AlArabiya_Eng) March 20, 2022

Will Russia's invasion of Ukraine accelerate Europe's energy transition?

You bet.

Here is a running tally 🧵

— Nikos Tsafos (@ntsafos) March 19, 2022

Something I've noticed over the past week or so here: almost every Ukrainian I spoke to has made it clear that they blame not only Putin, but the average Russian as much (or more) for this war. The view is: we overthrew our corrupt government, and they accept their murderous one.

— Neil Hauer (@NeilPHauer) March 19, 2022

And I'm saying this from Kharkiv. I think I saw more virulently anti-Russian views here than anywhere else in the country. The sense of betrayal here, of 'how could they possibly do this to *us*', is incredible.

— Neil Hauer (@NeilPHauer) March 19, 2022

Honestly Kharkiv is crazy. Everything from the center going northwards, just street after street is blown out. Every street littered with glass and burned-out cars and broken buildings.

— Neil Hauer (@NeilPHauer) March 19, 2022

Thread. Hundreds of civilians have been punished for diverse reasons in Ukraine by paramilitary groups and National guard. Strong footage. Tortures, abuses, humiliation, even of kids and girls.

There is no a clear motive for this illegal abuses. They are labelled as marauders. That can include men who don't want to fight, who are suspected of russian sympathy, looters or people searching for food.

We don't know the actual reasons or for how long they are punished. It is clearly against any human rights conventions. There is no excuse for this.