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    Post by rumbeando Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:18 am

    The vice-speaker of the LPR parliament said that the territory of the republic is the entire Luhansk region. He also called on the Armed Forces of Ukraine to voluntarily withdraw troops, otherwise "measures will be taken"

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    Post by rumbeando Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:22 am

    Veliko slavlje bilo u skoro milionskom Donjecku noćas, desetak ljudi se okupilo.

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:27 am

    rumbeando wrote:
    The vice-speaker of the LPR parliament said that the territory of the republic is the entire Luhansk region. He also called on the Armed Forces of Ukraine to voluntarily withdraw troops, otherwise "measures will be taken"


    Rusima treba priznati da su dosledno protiv razmena teritorija
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:44 am

    rumbeando wrote:Veliko slavlje bilo u skoro milionskom Donjecku noćas, desetak ljudi se okupilo.



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    Post by Sotir Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:46 am

    Диси,
    Очекујем од тебе да преносиш коментаре од ових екипа у Донбасу. Како ће да реагују кад им у по ноћи кажу да треба да иду преко ничије земље до легалних граница ЛДНР.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:49 am

    Sudeći po ruskim izvorima, tamo se nastavlja zakuvavanje. U Luganjsku se čuju eksplozije, Ukrajinci pucali na novinare ali na sreću nema žrtava, i tako dalje. Mislim da neće biti ni dana pauze do novih neugodnih razvoja.
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:51 am

    Cousin Billy wrote:Sudeći po ruskim izvorima, tamo se nastavlja zakuvavanje. U Luganjsku se čuju eksplozije, Ukrajinci pucali na novinare ali na sreću nema žrtava, i tako dalje. Mislim da neće biti ni dana pauze do novih neugodnih razvoja.

    Pa sad valjda slijedi izlazak na priznate granice novih država.


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    Post by Del Cap Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:03 am

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    Post by disident Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:05 am

    Sotir wrote:Диси,
    Очекујем од тебе да преносиш коментаре од ових екипа у Донбасу. Како ће да реагују кад им у по ноћи кажу да треба да иду преко ничије земље до легалних граница ЛДНР.

    Sad bas gledam dal se oglasavaju
    Inace su u ovakvoj jedinici, ideoloski
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:11 am

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    Bonsoir, monsieur Poutine
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:16 am

    ​SB UN:
    British U.N. Ambassador Barbara Woodward said there are reports of Russian troops and tanks now entering Donetsk and Luhansk and she warned that “an invasion of Ukraine unleashes the forces of war, death and destruction on the people of Ukraine.”
    She urged the Security Council to call on Russia to stop any military action, condemn aggression against a sovereign state and defend Ukraine’s territorial integrity, and call on Russia to respect its obligations under the U.N. Charter. That is virtually impossible given Russia’s veto power on council actions.
    “Russia has brought us to the brink,” Woodward said. “We urge Russia to step back.”
    In very brief remarks, Chinese U.N. Ambassador Zhang Jun made no mention of Russia’s actions on Monday, saying all parties “must exercise restraint, and avoid any action that may fuel tensions."
    Ukraine U.N. Ambassador Sergiy Kyslytsya demanded that Russia cancel its recognition of the independence of the separatist regions, immediately withdraw its “occupation troops” sent there by Putin, and return to negotiations. He called the Security Council “sick” for its past inaction, and urged members to defend Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.
    Despite Putin’s actions, he said, “The internationally recognized borders of Ukraine have been and will remain unchangeable regardless of any statements and actions by the Russian Federation.”
    While Ukraine has the right to self-defense under the U.N. Charter, he said, “We are committed to a peaceful and diplomatic path and we will stay firmly on it. We are on our land. We are not afraid of anything or anyone. We owe nothing to anyone, and we will not give away anything to anyone.”
    He said “there should be no doubts whatsoever” about this because “it is not February 2014,” when Russia invaded Crimea, which it later annexed, and Ukraine was not prepared. “It is February 2022,” he said.
    Russian U.N. Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia accused the United States and its Western allies of egging on Ukraine -- which he said has concentrated a 120,000-strong military contingent along the contact line with pro-Russian separatists in the east -- toward “an armed provocation.”
    He accused Ukraine of sharply increasing shelling in residential areas of Luhansk and Donetsk over the past weekend as well as in some Russian towns and villages near the border. “So it has become clear that Donbas is on the brink of a new Ukrainian military adventure as was already the case in 2014 and 2015,” he said, explaining that is why Putin made the announcements earlier Monday.
    The separatist authorities said Monday that at least four civilians were killed by Ukrainian shelling over the past 24 hours, and several others were wounded. Ukraine’s military said two Ukrainian soldiers were killed over the weekend, and another serviceman was wounded Monday. Ukrainian military spokesman Pavlo Kovalchyuk insisted that Ukrainian forces weren’t returning fire.
    “We remain open to diplomacy for a diplomatic solution,” Nebenzia said. “However, allowing a new bloodbath in the Donbas is something we do not intend to do.”
    He urged the United States and other Western nations “to think twice, to set emotions to one side, and not to make the situation worse.”
    “No one other than you can hold back the militaristic plans of Kyiv and force it to stop the shelling against the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics which in these new conditions could have extremely dangerous consequences,” Nebenzia said, alluding to future serious military action.
    Albanian U.N. Ambassador Ferit Hoxha called what Russia did Monday a repetition of what Moscow did in Georgia in 2008 when it illegally occupied two regions and in Crimea in 2014, “meaning an aggression by fabrication of phantom republics.”
    “Who is next?,” he asked, saying “every U.N. member state should be alarmed."
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ukraine-vladimir-putin-donetsk-un-security-council-luhansk-b2020237.html
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    Post by Notxor Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:17 am

    Nigde ne vidim izlaznu strategiju i to mi se nikako ne sviđa.
    Dok je ratovala Ukrajina protiv pobunjenika to je prolazilo.
    Ako počnu da ginu Rusi u većim brojevima, plašim se da ne krene: "ožeži i raspameti!"


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:24 am

    Nova doktrina

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:25 am

    Reprezentativni/predstavnički suverenitet

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    Post by rumbeando Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:31 am

    Zelensky said that Ukraine will not consider the “request of the militant leaders” to withdraw Ukrainian troops from the controlled territories of the LDNR: “We don’t communicate with them, we don’t understand who they are”

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:43 am

    U, kad ovi smerchovi uzmu da piskipuju...

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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:50 am

    Priznali su samo teritorije koje su već pod (pro)ruskom kontrolom. Phew.


    :exclamation:РФ признает ДНР и ЛНР в тех границах, "в которых они себя провозглашали", заявил Дмитрий Песков.
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    Post by Margit Savović Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:55 am

    Trebalo je Putin i Julija da se vencaju tamo neke 2010. Ne bi nikada ni jedna osoba nastradala i bilo bi bericeta za sve.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:57 am

    Cousin Billy wrote:Priznali su samo teritorije koje su već pod (pro)ruskom kontrolom. Phew.


    :exclamation:РФ признает ДНР и ЛНР в тех границах, "в которых они себя провозглашали", заявил Дмитрий Песков.

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    Post by Erős Pista Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:58 am

    Margit Savović wrote:Trebalo je Putin i Julija da se vencaju tamo neke 2010. Ne bi nikada ni jedna osoba nastradala i bilo bi bericeta za sve.

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    Post by rumbeando Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:06 pm

    Cousin Billy wrote:Priznali su samo teritorije koje su već pod (pro)ruskom kontrolom

    Pa ne, piše da su priznali ono kako su se oni proglasili, a u njihovim ustavima stoji da su u pitanju cele oblasti.



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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:11 pm

    Da, u pravu ste.



    Press Secretary of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov answered the question about the boundaries within which Russia recognized the sovereign LPR and DPR.
    The question of whether we are talking about recognition within the current, actual borders or within the former administrative borders of these republics was asked to Peskov during his conversation with reporters on Tuesday.
    "( Recognized - IF ) within the boundaries in which they proclaimed themselves. When these two republics were proclaimed," Peskov replied.
    The journalists asked him if these borders include Mariupol.
    "I have nothing to add. Within the limits in which they exist and have been proclaimed. They have been proclaimed and exist," Peskov said.
    He was asked whether that means that the DPR and LPR are recognized "within the current borders."

    "I have nothing to add to this," Peskov said.
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:11 pm

    Evo i drugi tako tumače Peskova:

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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:12 pm

    Rekao bih da su namerno dvosmisleni ili da jednostavno nemaju pojma, nije njihovo da brinu o tome.
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    Post by Janko Suvar Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:13 pm

    BREAKING: Germany's Chancellor Olaf Scholz says certification of Nord Stream 2 cannot go ahead after Russia's recent actions


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