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    Sotir

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    Post by Sotir Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:35 pm

    Хоспитализације код нас:
    Са 2080 са 1000 дневно заражених пре три недеље, скочило на 2300 са преко 12к заражених. 

    Ово је по свему судећи спало на јачину грипа.
    Кад би се склонила Делта, резултати би били још блажи.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:50 pm

    nije spalo na jačinu gripa, jeste blaže, ali ima dosta i stečenog imuniteta, na ovaj ili onaj način

    omikron je promenio ceo pejsaž bolesti, dovoljno je uporediti podatke po državama da to postane jasno
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    Post by ficfiric Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:34 pm

    Medju tih 12k/dan ima dosta vakcinisanih i onih koji su vec jednom prelezali. Delta njih nije mlatila, mozda zato deluje da je blazi a mozda stvarno i jeste


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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:37 pm

    pa u tome je suština
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:12 pm

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:46 pm

    rules are rules
    Sotir

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    Post by Sotir Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:54 pm

    Ајд што могу да пренесу на друге колеге, већ ако замрзну месо, могу да пренесу на корисника месецима касније, на другом крају света.
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:51 am

    Link iz tvita ne radi, ali radi ovaj. Naravno da su dolazili i oni koji šmrču i kašlju.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/15/unions-say-exemption-to-allow-covid-positive-people-to-work-at-sa-meatworks-sets-dangerous-precedent
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    Post by MNE Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:07 am

    naravno najbolje da može tako lako da se odredi ko je asimptomatičan a ko nije
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    Post by rumbeando Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:44 pm

    Expect more worrisome variants after omicron, scientists say
    Scientists warn that omicron’s whirlwind spread across the globe practically ensures it won’t be the last worrisome coronavirus variant
    Get ready to learn more Greek letters. Scientists warn that omicron’s whirlwind advance practically ensures it won’t be the last version of the coronavirus to worry the world.
    Every infection provides a chance for the virus to mutate, and omicron has an edge over its predecessors: It spreads way faster despite emerging on a planet with a stronger patchwork of immunity from vaccines and prior illness.
    That means more people in whom the virus can further evolve. Experts don’t know what the next variants will look like or how they might shape the pandemic, but they say there’s no guarantee the sequels of omicron will cause milder illness or that existing vaccines will work against them.
    They urge wider vaccination now, while today's shots still work.
    "The faster omicron spreads, the more opportunities there are for mutation, potentially leading to more variants,” Leonardo Martinez, an infectious disease epidemiologist at Boston University, said.
    Since it emerged in mid-November, omicron has raced across the globe like fire through dry grass. Research shows the variant is at least twice as contagious as delta and at least four times as contagious as the original version of the virus.
    Omicron is more likely than delta to reinfect individuals who previously had COVID-19 and to cause “breakthrough infections” in vaccinated people while also attacking the unvaccinated. The World Health Organization reported a record 15 million new COVID-19 cases for the week of Jan. 3-9, a 55% increase from the previous week.
    Along with keeping comparatively healthy people out of work and school, the ease with which the variant spreads increases the odds the virus will infect and linger inside people with weakened immune systems - giving it more time to develop potent mutations.
    “It’s the longer, persistent infections that seem to be the most likely breeding grounds for new variants,” said Dr. Stuart Campbell Ray, an infectious disease expert at Johns Hopkins University. "It’s only when you have very widespread infection that you’re going to provide the opportunity for that to occur.”
    Because omicron appears to cause less severe disease than delta, its behavior has kindled hope that it could be the start of a trend that eventually makes the virus milder like a common cold.
    It's a possibility, experts say, given that viruses don’t spread well if they kill their hosts very quickly. But viruses don’t always get less deadly over time.
    A variant could also achieve its main goal - replicating - if infected people developed mild symptoms initially, spread the virus by interacting with others, then got very sick later, Ray explained by way of example.
    “People have wondered whether the virus will evolve to mildness. But there’s no particular reason for it to do so,” he said. “I don’t think we can be confident that the virus will become less lethal over time.”
    Getting progressively better at evading immunity helps a virus to survive over the long term. When SARS-CoV-2 first struck, no one was immune. But infections and vaccines have conferred at least some immunity to much of the world, so the virus must adapt.
    There are many possible avenues for evolution. Animals could potentially incubate and unleash new variants. Pet dogs and cats, deer and farm-raised mink are only a few of the animals vulnerable to the virus, which can potentially mutate within them and leap back to people.
    Another potential route: With both omicron and delta circulating, people may get double infections that could spawn what Ray calls “Frankenvariants,” hybrids with characteristics of both types.
    When new variants do develop, scientists said it’s still very difficult to know from genetic features which ones might take off. For example, omicron has many more mutations than previous variants, around 30 in the spike protein that lets it attach to human cells. But the so-called IHU variant identified in France and being monitored by the WHO has 46 mutations and doesn’t seem to have spread much at all.
    To curb the emergence of variants, scientists stress continuing with public health measures such as masking and getting vaccinated. While omicron is better able to evade immunity than delta, experts said, vaccines still offer protection and booster shots greatly reduce serious illness, hospitalizations and deaths.
    Anne Thomas, a 64-year-old IT analyst in Westerly, Rhode Island, said she's fully vaccinated and boosted and also tries to stay safe by mostly staying home while her state has one of the highest COVID-19 case rates in the U.S.
    “I have no doubt at all that these viruses are going to continue to mutate and we’re going to be dealing with this for a very long time," she said.
    Ray likened vaccines to armor for humanity that greatly hinders viral spread even if it doesn't completely stop it. For a virus that spreads exponentially, he said, "anything that curbs transmission can have a great effect.” Also, when vaccinated people get sick, Ray said their illness is usually milder and clears more quickly, leaving less time to spawn dangerous variants.
    Experts say the virus won't become endemic like the flu as long as global vaccination rates are so low. During a recent press conference, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said that protecting people from future variants — including those that may be fully resistant to today's shots — depends on ending global vaccine inequity.
    Tedros said he’d like to see 70% of people in every country vaccinated by mid-year. Currently, there are dozens of countries where less than a quarter of the population is fully vaccinated, according to Johns Hopkins University statistics. And in the United States, many people continue to resist available vaccines.
    “These huge unvaccinated swaths in the U.S., Africa, Asia, Latin America and elsewhere are basically variant factories,” said Dr. Prabhat Jha of the Centre for Global Health Research at St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto. “It's been a colossal failure in global leadership that we have not been able to do this.”
    In the meantime, new variants are inevitable, said Louis Mansky, director of the Institute for Molecular Virology at the University of Minnesota.
    With so many unvaccinated people, he said, “the virus is still kind of in control of what's going on.”
    https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/expect-worrisome-variants-omicron-scientists-82282188
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    Post by Sotir Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:52 pm

    rumbeando wrote:[size=31] [/size]
    Пик преминулих касни за случајевима скоро месец дана.?? 
    Нешто се ту чудно дешава. Да нису неке касно уочене последице? Или је са кашњењем стигло до старијих или невакцинисаних?
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    Post by Sotir Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:11 pm

    Из братове породице:
    Сви вакцинисани са две дозе, кинез или АЗ.
    У августу закачи супруга, темп пар дана, бураз после, био пар дана у болници, почетак упале плућа, и млађи син, само мало темп. Старији син без симптома и потврде, сви били у истом стану. Деца су око 20 година. 

    Сад је старији син закачио вирус. Опет у истом стану, били пре позитивног теста више дана заједно.
    Ни код кога се нису појавили симптоми, прошло већ две недеље.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:17 pm

    danas je potvrđeno da šurak 50+ ima koron, 3 fajzera

    temp, glavobolja i gušobolja od juče

    u svakodnevnom smo kontaktu, idemo tamo ujutro i uveče zbog nepokretne tašte 

    sad čekamo
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:25 pm

    Ko zna... Srecno.

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    Post by kondo Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:27 pm

    Talason wrote:danas je potvrđeno da šurak 50+ ima koron, 3 fajzera

    temp, glavobolja i gušobolja od juče

    u svakodnevnom smo kontaktu, idemo tamo ujutro i uveče zbog nepokretne tašte 

    sad čekamo

    ja sam vam lepo rekao da je fajzer sralje a vi slušate plaćene reklame preko rumbija

    mora da se meša


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:28 pm

    i to cemo da vidimo (mi koji smo mesali)...a mozda i necemo, mada tesko
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    Post by MNE Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:29 pm

    Talason wrote:danas je potvrđeno da šurak 50+ ima koron, 3 fajzera

    temp, glavobolja i gušobolja od juče

    u svakodnevnom smo kontaktu, idemo tamo ujutro i uveče zbog nepokretne tašte 

    sad čekamo
    uh ako je tako sa vakcinom onda bi bez vakcine vjerovatno već bio u Batajnici

    inače znam za slučaj lika u srednjim četrdesetim koji je jedva pretekao deltu (neozbiljno se ponašao i nakon što je zakačio), ali sada od omikrona eno ga pauzira 10 dana ne izlazi iz kreveta iako nema neke simptome, koga zmija ujede i guštera se boji jbg
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    Post by ficfiric Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:29 pm

    Snajini roditelji (70+), dva puta vakcinisani (valjda kinezom) zakacili omikron i prosli lagano. Babu su malo boleli zglobovi ali je preterano radila prethodnog dana, pa je mozda i to bio razlog


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    Zasto nije dala jebeni otkaz, jebote...
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:14 am

    Mislim, znam sve treba pare, to joj je profesija. Ali - za ljude kao sto je ta zena rizik je prosto ogroman.

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