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    Filipenko

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    Post by Filipenko Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:09 pm

    Nije da ne lice, samo ova vestica je nekako autenticna, ima zvezdice evropske unije oko glave.
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    Post by Notxor Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:15 pm

    Twitter kaže Virgin Mary.

    tj:

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    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:46 pm

    Cousin Billy wrote:do sredine osamdesetih. sada je 2022.

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    Post by Летећи Полип Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:58 pm

    Drzava Entitet u situaciji kao sto je Tajvan ce uvek biti jednom nogom u fasizmu i militarizmu.


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:34 pm

    Dobro Tajvan mora, a koji je izgovor za Kinu?


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:37 pm

    Pa zbog Tajvana
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    Post by disident Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:20 am

    Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Dobro Tajvan mora, a koji je izgovor za Kinu?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:34 am

    Ako oni stvarno misle da je kucnuo cas da se osvete svetu za ponizenja od pre 150 godina, onda su oni veceras veoma razocarani i besni.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Del Cap Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:35 am

    How decades of clashes with China led to Nancy Pelosi’s Taiwan trip

    US House Speaker who unfurled banner in Tiananmen Square in 1991 is deeply distrusted by China’s leaders

    Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington and Kathrin Hille in Taipei 4 HOURS AGO


    Just after US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi landed in Taiwan, she published an article arguing that her controversial visit was critical to demonstrating American support for the country as it faces mounting pressure from China.

    “In the face of the Chinese Communist party’s accelerating aggression, our congressional delegation’s visit should be seen as an unequivocal statement that America stands with Taiwan,” Pelosi wrote in The Washington Post, as she became the highest-ranking American official to visit since then-Republican Speaker Newt Gingrich in 1997.

    The California Democrat drew harsh rebukes from China, which threatened large-scale military exercises around Taiwan from Thursday. But she had also ignored pleas from the White House, which was worried about sparking a crisis.

    President Joe Biden did not speak to Pelosi about the trip but he sent senior officials to explain the risks. Asked on Tuesday if Biden supported her trip, National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said that he “respects” her decision.

    For Pelosi, the visit is the latest salvo in a career of standing up to China over issues that encompass its human rights record in Tibet and Xinjiang, its crackdown on democracy in Hong Kong and its aggressive military activity.

    Carolyn Bartholomew, Pelosi’s former chief of staff, said the Speaker was acting out of a longstanding conviction that was partly sparked by the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989.

    “She was horrified, it was distressing to watch what was happening in Tiananmen Square. It was a defining moment in her view of China,” said Bartholomew, now a commissioner at the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission.

    Bartholomew said Pelosi would have taken the risks outlined by the Biden team into account, but said she had to weigh many factors, including after the news of her plan leaked last month in the Financial Times.

    “She is a woman who absorbs a lot of information. I am sure she gave serious thought to what they were telling her,” Bartholomew added. “Other reasons prevailed, and once the news broke, not going would have been a capitulation to China.”

    Ryan Hass, a former White House National Security Council director for China and Taiwan, said Pelosi felt very strongly about supporting democratic partners that were under duress from authoritarian regimes.

    “She has a long record of not bowing to Chinese pressure and feels passionately about upholding the principle of Congress being a co-equal branch of government,” Hass said.

    The loudest praise in Washington for Pelosi came from an unusual quarter: Republicans who believed that abandoning her trip would have shown weakness. In the Senate, 26 of the 50 Republicans signed a statement supporting the visit.

    Democrats were more notable in their silence. Pelosi came under criticism from some China experts, including former Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd, who told the BBC she was putting “fuel on the fire”.

    “Taiwan is getting a bad deal, a permanent erosion of the security situation for a two-day sugar high,” said one China expert.

    Craig Singleton, a China expert at the FDD think-tank, said Pelosi’s trip was a mistake that risked a major escalation in US-China tensions.

    “The rhetoric from Beijing suggests this is not going to be a one-week affair. The drills they announced are very serious,” said Singleton who worried that the US would face the biggest Taiwan crisis in decades. “China is going to wield elements of power in coming days long after Pelosi returns to her very comfortable house in San Francisco.”

    But others said the fact that China had not taken severe action as Pelosi arrived in Taiwan reinforced why the US should be less worried about ramifications. “Newt Gingrich proved that despite CCP sabre-rattling, the Speaker . . . can visit Taiwan if he wants to. Decades later, Nancy Pelosi proved that is still true,” said Rebeccah Heinrichs of the Hudson Institute think-tank.

    While China rebuked Gingrich in 1997, its response to Pelosi has been harsher, partly because of the tense state of US-China relations and partly because the PLA is far stronger now than it was a quarter of a century ago.

    Jennifer Rudolph, a China expert at Worcester Polytechnic Institute, said the global landscape had changed with China rising as a power.

    “When Gingrich went to Taiwan, China was angry too,” said Rudolph. But she added: “We weren’t at the point where we are now with China actively challenging the US role in the world on multiple fronts [and] engagement is seen as dead in the water . . . That is what makes this moment so fraught.”

    China also has a particular grievance with Pelosi stretching back to 1991, when during a visit to Beijing she visited Tiananmen Square and unfurled a banner that read: “To those who died for democracy in China.”

    Richard Bush, a Taiwan expert at the Brookings Institution whose former boss went with Pelosi on the 1991 trip, said China was focused more on her character than the fact that the Speaker was constitutionally second in line to the presidency, after the vice-president.

    “What is most important is whether they trust the intentions of the person they are dealing with, and with Pelosi they think they have reason not to — mainly because they invited her to China in 1991 and then she went to Tiananmen Square.”

    Pelosi has also been a strong defender of Chinese dissidents, including championing legislation that provided a pathway to US citizenship for students who were trying to escape from repression in China.

    Wei Jingsheng, a prominent Chinese dissident who was persecuted for calling for democracy in China and has dealt repeatedly with Pelosi since being expelled by Beijing, said her “key asset” was that she listened to dissidents.

    “Over time, she has proven that she is more often right on the PRC [People’s Republic of China] than others,” said Wei, who echoed a view shared by friends and opponents that might explain Pelosi’s determination to visit Taiwan despite the warnings: “Once she makes a decision, few can dissuade her.”

    One Democratic lawmaker said Pelosi was also cementing her legacy, particularly given that the 82-year-old will have to relinquish the role of Speaker if Republicans take control of the House, as expected, in November’s midterm elections.

    “This is part of her farewell tour for her career, and she always wanted to go to Taiwan,” he said.
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    Post by Del Cap Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:08 pm

    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:20 pm

    All security, no economy
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    Post by MNE Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:09 pm

    No more defending the lies
    Behind the never-ending war
    It's time to make them realize
    We will no longer be their whore
    No more, no more
    No more, no more
    No more, no more




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    Post by Del Cap Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:13 pm

    Posle Blinkenove posete JAR


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    Post by Del Cap Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:34 pm

    On zna kome je korisno ono što govori

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    Post by MNE Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:40 pm

    russian-al answer
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:45 pm

    Njegova poruka je i dalje - dajte mi nesto.
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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:49 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:Njegova poruka je i dalje - dajte mi nesto.
    A ovi mu kažu, pa imaš trajnu vlast, šta bi više koji kurac.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:59 am

    Eh...ne veruje on da bi bila trajna posle nekog velikog popustanja niza sta sto se moze predstaviti kao nekakva pobeda.
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    Post by beatakeshi Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:32 pm

    Pa nude mu pare.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:17 pm

    Da "proda" Kosovo za pare?
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    Post by beatakeshi Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:40 pm

    Kako je ono rekao kralj Milan: "Mislite da sam mogao da dobijem više?"
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:55 pm

    pa problem je u sledecem: rusofona manjina je bila izlozena genocidu u donbasu (nije ni izbliza), na kosovu su albanci uzivali sva prava i nije bilo terora (jeste). samo su u pitanju moralne a ne pravne kategorije.

    s tim sve se menja ako rusija jednostavno anektira delove ukrajine. i dan danas cak i clanice nato (spanija) ne priznaju kosovo niti bi gledale blagonaklono na neku albansku aneksiju kosova. stavise takva aneksija je predupredjena razlicitim instrumentima.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:56 pm

    Pa to bi ovaj rekao za teritorije

    Racuna se ZSO, EU, teritorije. To su valute. Da ne bude zabune - govorim ovo analiticki, ne sta ja mislim.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:59 pm

    Drugo pitanje je odvajamje od Rusije. Da ima hrabrosti igrao bi na to. Kina je dovoljna da "cuva ledja" u UN (i mnogo vrednija od Rusije danas). Problem je sto je cela konstrukcija autoritarnih oligarhija vlasti sklepana tako da ne moze - nista. I onda na kraju pukne sve, ali do tog kraja...
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:06 pm

    ovo sto se desava u rusiji je dosta zabrinjavajuce. ne znam da li ce pre puci treci svetski rat ili rezim.


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