The New Cold War

boomer crook wrote:ili ce ukrajina uz pokroviteljstvo amera krenuti na donbas ili ce putn preventivno udariti

Ovo prvo nema sanse mnijem. Rasporedili su se oko Ukrajine tako da bi ih spržili za 1 dan. Neće Ameri to dozvoliti.

China Telecom told to cease US operations in January

Totaltele
China Telecom told to cease US operations in January
By Harry Baldock, Total Telecom
Friday 03 December 21

The company will be forced to leave the US market following a ban in October, with a recent appeal falling on deaf ears
Back in October, the US Federal Communications Commission (FCC) announced that it had terminated China Telecom’s authority to provide communications services in the US.

The decision was largely based on classified information supplied by US national security agencies, who said that China Telecom had the capability to access and disrupt US communications and could therefore potentially engage in espionage. Furthermore, as a state-controlled company, China Telecom could in fact be compelled to do so by the Chinese government.

China Telecom immediately launched a legal appeal against the ban, repeatedly arguing that it was being illegally discriminated against.

Now, however, that appeal has failed, with China Telecom told it must cease all of its US operations by early January.

China Telecom has operated in the US since 2002. A ban on the company was first proposed back in 2020 under the Trump Administration, with China Telecom, China Unicom, Pacific Networks, and ComNet all told they would have to prove they were not national security risks.

With China Telecom’s ban now upheld, it seems that the FCC will now turn its attention to Unicom, Pacific Networks, and ComNet.

“We are moving expeditiously to complete our security reviews for similarly situated carriers like China Unicom Americas, Pacific Networks, and ComNet,” said FCC chair Jessica Rosenworcel back in October.

https://www.totaltele.com/511866/China-Telecom-told-to-cease-US-operations-in-January?s=09

Izrael je najblizi saveznik

Izgleda da ne vole kad ih neprijatelj prisluskuje.

Ima saveznik clan Natoa, a onda ima Izrael

"Udružite se protiv Kine"


Zapadne zemlje bi trebalo da se udruže protiv Kine kako bi je sprečile da koristi trgovačke interese u pokušaju da ih međusobno zavadi.

To je danas poručio kanadski premijer Džastin Trudo

Trudo je izjavio da je Kina "izigrala" zapadne zemlje tako što se one takmiče jedna protiv druge za pristup ekonomskim mogućnostima u ovoj zemlji.

"Mi se takmičimo i Kina nas, s vremena na vreme, veoma pametno izigra na otvoren tržišni, konkurentan način", rekao je on u intervjuu za Global televiziju, prenosi Rojters.

Kanadski premijer je poručio i da Zapad mora bolje da sarađuje i bude čvršći da Kina ne bi, kako je rekao, lukavstvima tražila načine da stekne prednost i da zapadne zemlje okreće jedne protiv drugih.

Ranije ovog meseca, Kanada je saopštila da će se pridružiti saveznicima u diplomatskom bojkotu Zimskih olimpijskih igara u Pekingu, u februaru 2022.godine, kako bi poslala Kini poruku zbog nepoštovanja ljudskih prava u toj zemlji, navodi Rojters.

Niko nikad nije pokušavao da "lukavstvima u trgovini" stekne neku prednost, do pojave ovakve Kine, it is known....

Misliš Kina da proizvodi novu generaciju narkotika beskonačno otrovnijih od postojećih i da preko meksičkih narko kartela ubacuje u Ameriku?
Ovako?

паће wrote:Требало би да им Кина приреди нешто типа опијумских ратова, ал' на њиховим обалама.

Ono što im Kina priređuje, mi polako počinjemo da osećamo.

China responds to Russian pushback against Western attempt to dominate world

Beijing and Moscow must work together for ‘universal peaceful development,’ the former insists


China agrees with Russia that the West’s desire for a dominant position on the world stage is unacceptable, and the two countries must work together for “mutual development,” Beijing said on Tuesday.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian was speaking at a briefing, following a claim on Monday from Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that the West “does not want to have any rivals of comparable influence in the international arena.”

“We support Mr. Lavrov’s words,” Zhao said on Tuesday. “China intends to work with Russia to help intensify cooperation between all countries and create new incentives for universal peaceful development.”

According to Zhao, Beijing wants to work alongside Moscow to ensure that diplomacy continues to follow international norms, using the UN platform.

“I want to stress that China-Russia comprehensive partnership relations in the new era are as strong as a rock. At the same time, cooperation between our countries is not aimed at defeating anyone,” he added. “The PRC always pursues an independent policy, contributes to maintaining world peace, actively contributes to global development and ensures the preservation of international order.”

Earlier this month, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said that Beijing intends to maintain mutually beneficial relations with Moscow.

“No matter what changes occur in the world, the Sino-Russian friendship, which has been passed down from generation to generation, will always be strong,” he said, stating that the two countries would work together for peace and stability. “Our countries have become a classic example of forming mutually trusting relations between great powers.”

In a video call earlier this month, Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping discussed defense and the economy, and agreed on a new project for developing shared financial structures to deepen economic ties outside the influence of other foreign states.

https://www.rt.com/russia/544606-west-dominant-position-unacceptable-zhao/

ovo može i na Srbin pobedijo...

Hoće li hrabra srpska vojska ovaj put završiti na Krimu?  (pošto nema ostrva u Crnom moru, a ni u Kaspijskom jezeru)

Ovo valjda spada ovde...jos uvek...

Ruski pregovarac pred sutrasnje pregovore (google translate)

https://tass.ru/politika/13380415

Ryabkov said that NATO should "collect money" and go to the 1997 borders
The Deputy Foreign Minister noted that the alliance will no longer be able to "push back" Russia to secondary roles

GENEVA, January 9. / Corr. TASS Anastasia Bobyleva /. NATO will no longer be able to "push back" Russia to secondary roles in European and international politics; it is time for the North Atlantic Alliance to return to the 1997 borders. This was stated on Sunday in an interview with TASS by Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, who arrived at the Russian-American talks on security guarantees.

"Even a layman understands that demanding concessions from Russia in a situation where NATO has been striving, as they say, to" push back "our country and transfer it, if not to the role of a subordinate, then in any case to a secondary role in the European and international politics, and to do this with direct damage to our security, will no longer work. This is all in the past. And it didn’t work very well before, but now it’s just put an end to it, ”the deputy minister said.

"So NATO needs to collect the money and go to the 1997 borders," Ryabkov said.

In May 1997, Russia and NATO signed the Founding Act, in which they confirmed that they "do not regard each other as adversaries" and create "a mechanism for consultation, coordination and joint action."


At the same time, in 1999 Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic joined the alliance, in 2004 - Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia and Estonia, in 2009 Albania and Croatia, in 2017 - Montenegro, and in 2020 - North Macedonia. NATO currently unites 30 countries. The organization continues its open door policy.

Advancement in negotiations
It is naive to count on progress on security guarantees in the upcoming talks between the Russian Federation and the United States and NATO, judging by the public position of the Western partners on the eve of the meeting, Ryabkov said. “There is a subject for conversation here from the point of view of explaining the logic of approaches and, probably, clarifying what the colleagues in Washington and NATO as a whole are guided by. shortly before the start of contacts, we will move forward, it would be naive, "- said the Deputy Minister.

He pointed out that on the eve of the talks, the position of the American side leaves little grounds for optimism. "First of all, I would like to hear in the course of the upcoming contacts something more intelligible about the non-expansion of NATO, the withdrawal of the decision of the 2008 Bucharest summit, the inadmissibility for the United States and NATO countries to continue the geopolitical development, in fact, of the entire space controlled by this group of states," to the west, north-west, south-west of our borders. And this is the main thing for us, and absolutely not the aspects on which the American side is now focusing, "Ryabkov added.

A positive result of Russia's contacts with the United States and NATO on security guarantees will be confirmation of its readiness to work on Russian proposals, he said. As the deputy minister said, Moscow proceeds from the fact that the West should, on a unilateral basis, abandon NATO expansion and eliminate the existing military infrastructure. "Other priorities are more important for us: non-expansion of NATO, elimination of the created infrastructure, refusal of measures, and not on a reciprocal basis, but on a unilateral basis from the West," he said.

According to Ryabkov, Western countries say they never made promises not to expand. "And we say that, in fact, it was an integral part of the political package, which was discussed at the stage of German reunification, dissolution of the Warsaw Pact, the withdrawal of the Soviet Union from the countries of the former - militarily - Warsaw Pact," he recalled.

“Therefore, promises, political guarantees, some words do not mean anything. Now it has been said that the United States has no intentions to deploy strike weapons in Ukraine. Today it does not, but tomorrow or the day after tomorrow what will happen? Is the United States ready to put it on paper and ratify it? " - noted the deputy minister.


Legal negotiator
The agreements of the Russian Federation with the United States and NATO on security guarantees should be legally binding, the difficulties of ratifying agreements within the alliance of the Russian Federation do not concern, Ryabkov noted. "Undoubtedly, it is necessary to confirm that any agreements in these areas and in general on the framework of the new organization of the security system in Europe, on which we insist, must be legally binding," the deputy minister stressed.

He pointed out that Russia "simply does not concern" any difficulties associated with the ratification of such agreements within the North Atlantic bloc. "Let them solve their problems with ratification, with the procedures for providing us with the necessary guarantees as they want. But they simply cannot do without it," he added. “Otherwise, we will again find ourselves in the same canvas, which can be called a geostrategic groundhog day. We have it all the time, it’s already tired of it, and these sequels simply cannot be taken seriously anymore,” Ryabkov added.

According to him, Western partners should get rid of illusions about a unipolar world and their ability to dictate to Russia the conditions that they have left since the end of the Cold War. “I understand that it is difficult for colleagues in the United States, with their confidence in their own always righteousness, to part with illusions. This is always a definite political and psychological trauma. Hence emotional outbursts, all sorts of excesses, threats, ultimatums, in general such hysterical behavior. get used to the new situation, adapt and back up a little, in the literal sense of the word. Otherwise, their own security will suffer, "the Russian Deputy Foreign Minister concluded.

He also pointed to the groundlessness of NATO's statements about the impossibility of demanding non-expansion of the alliance to the East. Ryabkov recalled that after the reunification of Germany in the last century, the Soviet leadership received assurances "from the most senior, most responsible officials of both the United States and European countries that NATO is actually moving to a closed door policy." The North Atlantic bloc changed its position later, "when people in Washington, Brussels and many other European capitals came to believe that the historic West had won the Cold War."

On the negotiations of the Russian Federation with the USA and NATO
The start of the first round of Russian-American talks on security issues in Geneva is scheduled for the evening of January 9, it will be held in a restricted format. On January 10, the work will continue in a wide format. On January 12, a meeting of the Russia-NATO Council will take place in Brussels, and on January 13 - negotiations between representatives of the Russian Federation and the OSCE in Vienna.

The Russian Foreign Ministry on December 17 published Russian drafts of security assurance agreements that Moscow expects from the United States and NATO. Two treaties - with the United States and members of the alliance - presuppose, among other things, a refusal to expand NATO to the east, including refusal to admit Ukraine to it, as well as the introduction of restrictions on the deployment of serious offensive weapons, in particular nuclear ones. The documents contain clauses on restrictions on the deployment of the INF Treaty.

Mór Thököly wrote:Ovo valjda spada ovde...jos uvek...

Ruski pregovarac pred sutrasnje pregovore (google translate)

https://tass.ru/politika/13380415

[b]Ryabkov said that NATO should "collect money" and go to the 1997 borders

"Pokupite pinkle"....

U.S. and Russia Will Discuss European Security, but Without Europeans
The coming talks in Geneva are bilateral, reviving old fears that the two Cold War powers will forge a deal on their own.

By Steven Erlanger
Jan. 10, 2022, 3:51 a.m. ET

BRUSSELS — The European Union’s foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell Fontelles, visited Ukrainian troops in the contested Donbas region last Wednesday, staring through a fence at the positions of Russian-backed separatists.

“We are no longer in the Yalta times,” he said, when the great powers met in 1945 to divvy up postwar Europe. “The European Union is the most reliable partner of Ukraine,” he insisted, and it “cannot be a spectator” while the United States, NATO and Russia discuss European security.

To some, Mr. Borrell’s visit was a sign of Europe’s new interest in strategic autonomy and its desire to be a significant player in its own defense. To others, his visit was risky posturing and a demand for attention that only displayed the hollowness of the European Union’s actual weight in a world of hard power.

The inescapable fact is that when the United States and Russia sit down in Geneva on Monday to discuss Ukraine and European security, Europeans will not be there. And when NATO sits down with Russia on Wednesday, the European Union as an institution will not be there — although 21 states are members of both groupings.

Even as leading nations of the European Union, like France and Germany, have pursued their own talks with Moscow and are integral members of NATO, it is embarrassingly obvious that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia regards both NATO and the European Union as subservient to American desires and decisions.

That rankles the Europeans to no end in “a very tricky moment in international affairs in Europe, unprecedented since the end of the Cold War,” said François Heisbourg, a French defense analyst. “It’s our security, but we’re not there.”

Part of the annoyance is “the traditional European conundrum that too much American leadership is unpleasant and too little is also unpleasant,” he said. “But the less reassuring part is that Europeans are wondering about the consistency” of President Biden after the Afghanistan failure and his desire to turn strategic attention to China. And they worry that Mr. Biden will be badly weakened after November’s midterm elections and that Donald J. Trump may retake the presidency in 2024.

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken has vowed repeatedly that no decisions will be made about Europe without the Europeans, and no decisions about Ukraine without the Ukrainians — who are also largely absent from the talks. Washington has worked to ensure that Mr. Borrell and other non-NATO European leaders are regularly briefed.

But there is always a tension between the global vision of the United States, with China as the central challenge, and that of the Europeans, who have Russia as their central security challenge, said Mark Leonard, director of the European Council on Foreign Relations.

President Emmanuel Macron of France has been pushing Europe to do more for its own defense, especially with Mr. Trump having disparaged NATO and with Mr. Biden looking toward the Indo-Pacific. But the Europeans remain divided over how to deal with Russia, their troublesome neighbor and source of much of their gas and oil.

Central and Eastern European members trust only Washington and NATO to defend them and deter Russia, not Paris or Berlin or Brussels. And the serious economic sanctions threatened if Russia moves farther into Ukraine will hurt the European economy far more than the American, making further sanctions on Russian energy exports highly unlikely.

“In Washington there is a lot of frustration that the Europeans are not doing much themselves while complaining about what the U.S. is doing,” Mr. Leonard said. “Biden wants to focus on 21st-century challenges and China, and needs the Europeans to step up or shut up.”

A senior French diplomat admitted as much this past week. “Obviously, there are very different sensitivities when it comes to Russia within the E.U. and on the European continent,” he said.

But there is “a new European assertiveness and willingness to take into account” that the world and region are “more dangerous and volatile,” he said, adding, “We need to take care of ourselves.” Still, producing real strategic weight in support of these ambitions is a long way off.

Individual European countries have their own militaries and foreign policies, and they have been reluctant to hand over much responsibility, authority or funding to Mr. Borrell and Brussels. Some see Mr. Borrell as trying to be relevant in a way that member states have not mandated.


For example, he recently sent a letter to E.U. foreign ministers insisting that “we must be at the table” in the U.S.-Russia talks and that “our main goal should be to ensure E.U. involvement in the process.” He further suggested that the 57-member Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe should be the venue for future talks, not NATO.


In the letter, provided to The New York Times, he also said that he favors separate European proposals on security and has “initiated a discrete direct conversation” with the Russian foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov.

The letter was not welcomed by every foreign ministry, even as Mr. Borrell promised “full coherence and coordination with NATO” in formulating European proposals “on conventional arms control and confidence and security building measures.”

But there are also new uncertainties in important European states. Mr. Macron is facing the voters in April, and his re-election is far from assured. And while the former German chancellor Angela Merkel was a respected interlocutor for Mr. Putin — with fluent Russian, long experience in power and the German economy behind her — Olaf Scholz, her successor, is more of an unknown quantity.

Mr. Scholz is a Social Democrat, a party that always favored Ostpolitik, the normalization of relations with the East, and that also pushed Nord Stream 2, the contentious (and not yet certified) natural gas pipeline that goes directly from Russia to Germany, bypassing Ukraine and Poland.

Still, Mr. Scholz is in a coalition with the fiercely anti-Russian Greens, with a Green foreign minister, Annalena Baerbock, and with the Free Democrats, who are also openly critical of Russia.

While urging more European defense capacity, Mr. Scholz is also a firm believer in NATO and the trans-Atlantic alliance, said Ulrich Speck, an analyst affiliated with the German Marshall Fund in Berlin. So Mr. Scholz is unlikely to break with any NATO consensus that emerges.

In Germany’s new governing coalition, “there is a balance of power in the background, and that matters,” Mr. Speck said. “Scholz must deal with this reality and a European Parliament that is more and more angry with Russia, its hostility to the E.U. and its interference in domestic affairs.”

While Mr. Borrell wants the European Union at the table, the negotiations now are power-based, Mr. Speck said. “So it makes no sense right now to push Brussels into this,” he said. “It’s a fight they cannot win.”

Wolfgang Ischinger, the former German ambassador to the United States, sees value in a larger negotiation with Russia, including a diplomatic role for Berlin. “Conflict prevention through deterrence and diplomacy is the tried and tested recipe,” he wrote.

But Mr. Ischinger also remembered asking “a very senior Russian official in Moscow in 1993” how Russia would alleviate the fears of eastern Europeans. The official responded, “What’s wrong with our neighbors living in fear of us?”


“Unfortunately,” Mr. Ischinger noted, “very little, if anything, has changed since.”

Ma sve je tesko sranje i tesko mi je da vidim neki pozitivan ishod. Samo da se ne prelomi preko nas ovde i to je to.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/how-kazakhstan-could-shift-putins-calculus-on-ukraine/