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    Post by ontheotherhand Mon 30 Aug 2021 - 11:47

    rumbeando wrote:Zaštita od zaražavanja je daleko manja i najbolja je u najmlađoj starosnoj grupi 12-15, koja je najkasnije vakcinisana.

    valjda daleko veća?
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    Post by Guest Mon 30 Aug 2021 - 11:56

    manja, veća, to je to
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    Post by rumbeando Mon 30 Aug 2021 - 12:12

    ontheotherhand wrote:
    rumbeando wrote:Zaštita od zaražavanja je daleko manja i najbolja je u najmlađoj starosnoj grupi 12-15, koja je najkasnije vakcinisana.

    valjda daleko veća?

    Daleko manja (1,3 do 9,1 puta u različitim starosnim grupama u odnosu na nevakcinisane) u odnosu na zaštitu od teških oblika bolesti (10,1 do 52 puta u različitim starosnim grupama u odnosu na nevakcinisane), o kojoj sam pisao u prethodnoj rečenici.
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    Post by rumbeando Mon 30 Aug 2021 - 17:18

    A senior Israeli health official expressed hope Sunday night that the third dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine will have a longer lasting impact than the first two doses, while admitting that there is no evidence that will be the case.
    Speaking with Channel 13 Sunday, Sharon Alroy-Preis, the head of the [Israel's] Health Ministry’s public health services department, said that the Ministry has found that the immunity against COVID provided by the Pfizer vaccine wanes after five months, adding that it remains unclear how longer the booster shot will extend protection for.
    Nevertheless, Alroy-Preis pointed to examples of other vaccines which demonstrate significantly stronger and more lasting protection after the third booster shot.
    “We understand now that the vaccination protocol for coronavirus vaccines is such that after five months, there is a decline in protection.”
    “But it is a bit difficult to tell how long the third vaccine will last. With many other vaccines, like with hepatitis, for example, there are two shots one after the other, then a booster shot. We’re following this, and there is a good chance that the booster shot will provide much longer-lasting protection, and not just half a year.”
    Alroy-Preis added that following the Ministry’s decision Sunday to offer booster shots to all vaccinated Israelis over the age of 12, health officials will closely track side-effects from the vaccine.
    Now that we’ve vaccinated more than two million people [with the third dose] and we know that there isn’t anything unusual, the number of side-effects being reported remains smaller than with the second dose. But we’ll track every unusual side-effect among the young people getting vaccinated.”
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/312655
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    Post by plachkica Tue 31 Aug 2021 - 0:28

    5 WARNINGS AND PRECUATIONS
    5.2 Myocarditis and Pericarditis
    This section was modified to read: “Postmarketing data demonstrate increased risks of
    myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly within 7 days following the second dose. The
    observed risk is higher among males under 40 years of age than among females and
    older males. The observed risk is highest in males 18 through 24 years of age. Although
    some cases required intensive care support, available data from short-term follow-up
    suggest that most individuals have had resolution of symptoms with conservative
    management. Information is not yet available about potential long-term sequelae. The
    CDC has published considerations related to myocarditis and pericarditis after
    vaccination, including for vaccination of individuals with a history of myocarditis or
    pericarditis (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinicalconsiderations/myocarditis.html)”.
    ‘5.3 Syncope’ Section was added and includes the following information:
    “Syncope (fainting) may occur in association with administration of injectable
    vaccines. Procedures should be in place to avoid injury from fainting.”


    https://www.fda.gov/media/151855/download
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    Post by disident Tue 31 Aug 2021 - 1:47

    plachkica wrote:5 WARNINGS AND PRECUATIONS
    5.2 Myocarditis and Pericarditis
    This section was modified to read: “Postmarketing data demonstrate increased risks of
    myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly within 7 days following the second dose. The
    observed risk is higher among males under 40 years of age than among females and
    older males. The observed risk is highest in males 18 through 24 years of age. Although
    some cases required intensive care support, available data from short-term follow-up
    suggest that most individuals have had resolution of symptoms with conservative
    management. Information is not yet available about potential long-term sequelae. The
    CDC has published considerations related to myocarditis and pericarditis after
    vaccination, including for vaccination of individuals with a history of myocarditis or
    pericarditis (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinicalconsiderations/myocarditis.html)”.
    ‘5.3 Syncope’ Section was added and includes the following information:
    “Syncope (fainting) may occur in association with administration of injectable
    vaccines. Procedures should be in place to avoid injury from fainting.”


    https://www.fda.gov/media/151855/download
    Sta je konzervativni menadžment myocaditisa?


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    Post by MNE Tue 31 Aug 2021 - 7:39

    zvanični podatak za grupaciju od 12 do 18 je 63 ozbiljna slučaja na milion vakcinisanih, to je mnogo jbg
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue 31 Aug 2021 - 7:48

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    Post by MNE Tue 31 Aug 2021 - 8:27

    Mnogo. Ako u Srbiji imaš pola miliona u tom starosnom opsegu i ako sve vakcinišeš to ti je 30 ozbiljnih slučajeva, nema svrhe vakcinisati djecu koja nemaju astmu i ostale poremećaje respiratornih organa.
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    Post by rumbeando Tue 31 Aug 2021 - 11:26

    Kretanje slučajeva u Izraelu po starosnim grupama od 30 godina naviše u apsolutnim brojevima - crveno su nevakcinisani, zeleno su vakcinisani, kod vakcinisanih je pik prošao u grupama starijim od 50 godina, a ostale zaravnjuju ili usporavaju rast, dok kod nevakcinisanih to nije slučaj. Reklo bi se da se već vidi efekat treće doze i da će stvari nadalje ići nabolje kako vakcinacija njom bude odmicala.

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    Kretanje slučajeva u Izraelu po starosnim grupama na 100.000 nevakcinisanih odnosno vakcinisanih pripadnika te starosne gurpe - crveno su nevakcinisani, zeleno su vakcinisani:

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    Izvor: https://twitter.com/feldman_gil/status/1432384378982780928

    Ako nekom ovi grafikoni izgledaju čudno u smislu normalizovane incidence (donji graifkon) u odnosu na apsolutni broj slučajeva (gornji grafikon), treba da ima u vidu da je Izrael vrlo mlada zemlja, medijana starosti je 30,5 godina.
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    Post by rumbeando Tue 31 Aug 2021 - 14:12

    Evo i ovako, za celu populaciju: eksponencijalni rast usporava, trebalo je 10 dana za dupliranje sa 250 na 500 slučajeva na milion stanovnika, a sada 20 za rast sa 500 na 1000.

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    Post by rumbeando Tue 31 Aug 2021 - 20:59


    Japanski javni servis NHK danas je pak objavio ovo:
    A pharmacist in Saitama Prefecture discovered black specks in Moderna vials while checking them before use in mid-August.
    "They were much smaller than sesame seeds -- less than a millimeter. They looked like slices of something and were floating inside the bottle as I shook it," said Ishii Koki.
    Similar foreign substances were subsequently found in 39 unopened Moderna vials at eight vaccination sites across Japan.
    Health ministry officials say the particles are likely metal as they are attracted to a magnet, and probably entered the vials during the manufacturing process at a Spanish factory.
    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/backstories/1748/
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    Post by rumbeando Wed 1 Sep 2021 - 0:56

    ​Novi podaci:
    Broj doza: 5.882.966 – prva doza 2.923.123, druga doza 2.804.423, treća doza 155.420

    Državljani RS – prva doza 2.757.999, druga doza 2.658.622, treća doza 154.940

    Strani državljani sa boravkom u RS – prva doza 9.489, druga doza 8.821, treća doza 180

    Strani državljani bez boravka u RS – prva doza 155.635, druga doza 136.960, treća doza 300

    ažurirano 30.08.2021
    https://vakcinacija.gov.rs/
     
    Podaci od pre nedelju dana: 
    Broj doza: 5.728.761 – prva doza 2.899.188, druga doza 2.784.053, treća doza 45.520

    Državljani RS – prva doza 2.735.581, druga doza 2.639.819, treća doza 45.392

    Strani državljani sa boravkom u RS – prva doza 9.303, druga doza 8.701, treća doza 45

    Strani državljani bez boravka u RS – prva doza 154.304, druga doza 135.533, treća doza 83

    ažurirano 23.08.2021
     
    Dnevni prosek za doze date državljanima Srbije:
     
    Datih doza (svih): 21.538
    Datih prvih doza: 3203
    Datih drugih doza: 2686
    Datih trećih doza: 15.650

    Sadašnjim tempom potrebno je oko 160 dana da broj trećih doza pristigne trenutni broj drugih doza, tj. to bi se desilo tamo negde prve nedelje februara.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed 1 Sep 2021 - 6:20

    tacno na vreme za cetvrtu...

    nema, to je to, imacemo konstantno 2,5m vakcinisanih, ostali ce steci imunitet hard way
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    Post by rumbeando Wed 1 Sep 2021 - 11:04

    Popović za RTS: Ruske vakcine proizvedene na Torlaku odobrene za upotrebu

    Institut Gamaleja sinoć je odobrio za upotrebu 550.000 vakcina "sputnjika V" koje su proizvedene na Torlaku do 13. avgusta, navodi za RTS ministar bez portfelja Nenad Popović.

    Nenad Popović je gostujući u Jutarnjem dnevniku RTS-a naveo da su vakcine potpuno istog kvaliteta kao one proizvedene u Rusiji.
    "Institut Gamaleja sinoć je odobrio za upotrebu 550.000 doza vakcina 'sputnjik V' koje su proizvedene na Torlaku do 13. avgusta. Kontrolisano je 18 parametara po najvećim svetskim standardima i svi oni su pokazali izvrstan rezultat – vakcine su potpune istog kvaliteta kao one proizvedene u Rusiji", rekao je Popović i dodao da je kontrolisano 960 uzoraka, po svim svetskim standardima.
    Kako kaže, vakcine su spremne za upotrebu.
    "Imamo 550.000 vakcina (275.000 vakcina komponente 1 i i 275.000 vakcina komponente 2) spremnih za upotrebu ovde u Srbiji s oznakom 'proizvedeno u Srbiji'", navodi gost Jutarnjeg dnevnika.
    Govoreći o izvozu vakcina, objašnjava da će odluku o tome doneti Vlada Republike Srbije i predsednik Srbije Aleksandar Vučić.
    "Mi treba da usaglasimo sa našim ruskim partnerima u koje zemlje ćemo izvoziti. Treba da dobijemo od njih odobrenje za izvoz da se ne bi desilo da i jedni i drugi izvozimo na ista tržišta. Ali siguran sam da će za Republiku Srpsku, Crnu Goru, Severnu Makedoniju, Bosnu i Hercegovinu, za naše komšije sigurno biti ovih vakcina u dovoljnim količinama", navodi Popović.
    Do kraja godine planirana je proizvodnja četiri miliona doza, a ministar navodi da imamo kapacitete za to.
    "Toralak ima izvanredne kapacitete. Mi u toku septembra i oktobra planiramo po proizvodnom planu koji smo usaglasili sa našim ruskim partnerima da proizvedemo još milion i po vakcina, a do kraja godine sve zajedno oko četiri miliona vakcina 'sputnjik V' – polovina komponente 1, polovina komponente 2", navodi Popović.
    Ističe da smo mi prvi u Evropi proizveli rusku vakcinu "sputnjik V".
    https://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81/story/3134/koronavirus-u-srbiji/4496219/koronavirus-srbija-vakcina-sputnjik-v-torlak.html
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    Post by MNE Wed 1 Sep 2021 - 12:01

    Super, konačno.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed 1 Sep 2021 - 12:19

    Dobro je da kreće pravoslavno čipovanje
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    Post by MNE Wed 1 Sep 2021 - 12:23

    Ne, pa ovo stvarno jeste velika stvar pa ko god da je zaslužan za to.
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    Post by plachkica Wed 1 Sep 2021 - 12:25

    Moderna vaccine creates twice as many antibodies as Pfizer: research

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/570177-moderna-vaccine-creates-twice-as-many-antibodies-as-pfizer-research
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed 1 Sep 2021 - 12:25

    Dobro je, naravno.

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed 1 Sep 2021 - 12:27

    plachkica wrote:Moderna vaccine creates twice as many antibodies as Pfizer: research

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/570177-moderna-vaccine-creates-twice-as-many-antibodies-as-pfizer-research

    Moguce, i jeste najbolja verovatno. Ali za nekoga u 40tim kao npr meni fajzerova sigurno dovoljno radi posao. Mesec i kusur dana je dug period, a imacu susrete sa ljudima u narednom periodu.
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    Post by Sotir Wed 1 Sep 2021 - 12:53

    Је ли због металних опиљака?

    Од самог броја битније је колико ће да трају антитела.

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