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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:08 pm

    to su ti apsurdi, kada nemanja rujević razmišlja o medicini, ekonomisti o privredi ili mašinci o bilo čemu
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    Post by паће Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:12 pm

    Па оно и на власти их има доста који су за хоспитализацију, ал' не да систем.


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    Post by kondo Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:36 pm

    jebaće te mašinci.

    danas (samo) 48 mrtvih, burundi zanemeo


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:40 pm

    48 mrtvih ko sto je 8k novozarazenih
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    Post by ficfiric Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:41 pm

    Masincima je dva i dva uvek cetiri

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    Post by паће Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:43 pm

    ficfiric wrote:Masincima je dva i dva uvek cetiri

    Хтео си рећи 4, плус минус 0,2.


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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:44 pm

    ficfiric wrote:Masincima je dva i dva uvek cetiri

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    jedini problem je što su naučili do tri
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    Post by kondo Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:50 pm

    ne valja 65

    ne valja 48

    čovek vam ne može ugoditi

    ko je vas poznavao ni pakao mu neće teško pasti


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    Post by Erős Pista Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:00 pm

    ficfiric wrote:Masincima je dva i dva uvek cetiri 619000000
     
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:07 pm

    Marius Lăcătuș wrote:ne valja 65

    ne valja 48

    čovek vam ne može ugoditi

    ko je vas poznavao ni pakao mu neće teško pasti

    Ma super je svaki neumrli, samo sto mi ovde sve te cifre gledamo kao indikatore, a ne doslovno. A za indikatore su potrebni intervali, ne jedan dan
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    Post by kondo Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:14 pm

    gledam tamo šta se dešava, pa ono je bojno polje bukvalno koja količina zaraženih forumaša i najbliže familije

    pored toga na primeru jednog dečka koji se leči telefonski sa medigrupom vidim da moj savet da se prvo krene odatle zaista nije za svakoga. plus razni forumski ludaci sa savetima bukvalno opasnim po život, dečko pije nešto iz familije lekova za razređivanje krvi a ovaj mu savetuje grejfut kao voćku #1 za kovid. pa možda, ali blood thinners + grapefruit jednako moguće mesto na lešću:

    https://vitalsigns.monhealth.com/2018/06/21/5-things-to-avoid-if-youre-on-blood-thinners/


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    Post by Sotir Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:36 pm

    Јуче смо причали како ови што броје не воле нуле, а нико да примети да је данас било 7999 заражених.
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    Post by Mr.Pink Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:47 pm

    ja se ne javljam jer sam imao neke situacije, da ne kazem sahrane

    ode brt moi, sto se smejao i kliberio kao debil. pojeo ju je rak za par meseci, a kovid je sahranio

    ja sam u fazonu sedim kuci radim poso, idem do lokalnog dilera i bivseg radio kluba da narucujem led-ove za lokomotive

    da podignem sebi moral. dolazi mi i dr da mi podize nesto drugo, ali nesto nisam u elementu

    treba da idem po aksu

    generalo bih jebao nekome mamu, ali posto ne mogu onome kome treba, ja se zabio u kucu


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    Post by rumbeando Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:11 am

    EU eyes Dec 29 approval for 1st virus vaccine, later than US

    The European Union drug agency says it may need four more weeks to approve its first coronavirus vaccine, even as authorities in the United States and Britain continue to aim for a green light before Christmas

    By FRANK JORDANS, MARIA CHENG and SAMUEL PETREQUIN Associated Press

    1 December 2020, 19:47
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    BERLIN -- The European Union drug agency said Tuesday it may need four more weeks to approve its first coronavirus vaccine, even as authorities in the United States and Britain continue to aim for a green light before Christmas.

    The European Medicines Agency plans to convene a meeting by Dec. 29 to decide if there is enough safety and efficacy data about the vaccine developed by Pfizer and BioNTech for it to be approved. The regulator also said it could decide as early as Jan. 12 whether to approve a rival shot by American pharmaceutical company Moderna Inc, which submitted its request to U.S. and European regulators this week.

    If its vaccine is approved, Germany-based BioNTech said the shot's use in Europe could begin before the end of 2020 — but that seems quite ambitious, given that the EU Commission usually needs to rubber-stamp the regulator's decision. Still, the agency has also left open the possibility that the date of that meeting will be brought forward if data comes in faster.

    Any approval granted by the European regulator will be conditional on companies submitting further information to confirm the vaccine’s benefits outweigh the risks.

    The date now being eyed would be later than some European countries had hoped. Germany, which has given BioNTech 375 million euros ($450 million) in funding to develop the vaccine, has been preparing to start immunizing people from mid-December onward.

    On Tuesday, officials in Germany, France and the Netherlands cautioned that vaccine programs likely won't start until the end of the year.

    “With the information we got in recent days we have to assume that approval will only happen around the turn of the year,” German Health Minister Jens Spahn said.

    “It has moved because some studies obviously need a little longer to be submitted," he said. "What’s important is to be prepared.”

    His comments were echoed by French President Emmanuel Macron and Dutch Health Minister Hugo de Jonge, who said authorities in those countries are working to begin vaccinating people in the first week of January.

    “It won’t be a vaccination policy for the broader public” during the first few months, Macron said at a news conference.

    BioNTech and U.S. partner Pfizer have said that clinical trials showed their vaccine is 95% effective. The two companies have already submitted data to regulators in the United States and Britain, and approval might come from them first.

    Hospitals in England have been told they could receive the first doses of the Pfizer shot as early as the week of Dec. 7 if it receives the OK, the Guardian and Financial Times reported. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s scientific advisers are holding a public meeting Dec. 10 to review Pfizer’s request to allow emergency use of its vaccine, and a decision could come shortly thereafter.

    Stephen Evans, a professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said that although the main drug regulators will all analyze the same data, the European regulator's decision-making process is slowed by the bureaucracy of the 27-nation bloc.

    He explained that approval at the EMA “requires cooperation from member states, who each have a say in the authorization of a vaccine.”

    British regulators also are assessing another vaccine developed by researchers from Oxford University and drugmaker AstraZeneca.

    Whichever of the three regulators — American, British or European — acts earliest would be giving the first approval of a COVID-19 vaccine that’s been that’s been rigorously tested in tens of thousands of people in trials that meet common scientific standards.

    Numerous other vaccines are also being worked on. Russia and China have even begun administering shots of locally developed vaccines and selling them to other countries but have not published evidence from advanced studies proving the vaccines are safe and effective.

    Globally, every country that has a drug regulatory agency will have to issue its own approval for any COVID-19 vaccine, although countries with weak systems usually rely on the World Health Organization to vet the shots. In the EU, countries typically accept EMA approval for vaccines and drugs unless there is a specific issue the country wants examined further.

    Multiple successful vaccines will be needed to end the pandemic, which has been on the upswing in Europe and the U.S. and so far left more than 1.4 million people worldwide dead.

    Authorities and drugmakers have pledged to work together to immediately begin rolling out the first shots once approval comes in, whether that’s in the United States or Europe.

    “Depending on how the authorities decide we can start delivering within a few hours,” said BioNTech's chief operating officer, Sierk Poetting.

    But officials caution that while some people may receive a vaccine in the coming weeks, it will likely take years to give billions of people around the world the shot, or two if a booster is necessary, meaning that people will be living with some virus control measures at least well into next year.

    While the three major vaccines so far submitted for approval seem to prevent people from getting sick, it is still unclear whether they prevent people from picking up the virus entirely — and crucially — passing it to others.

    The EU's top official said Tuesday around 2 billion doses of potential COVID-19 vaccines have been secured for the bloc's 27 nations and called hope for their quick approval "a huge step forward toward our normal life."

    EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, however, urged EU citizens to remain “disciplined till we have reached finally a vaccination that is appropriate to eradicate this virus.”

    Even after vaccines are approved, manufacturers and regulators will be monitoring how well they are received by patients to determine the frequency of rarer side effects that may only appear when millions are immunized.

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    Cheng reported from London and Petrequin from Brussels. Associated Press writers Kirsten Grieshaber in Berlin, Mike Corder in The Hague, Netherlands, and Sylvie Corbet in Paris contributed to this report.

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    Follow AP’s coverage at https://apnews.com/hub/coronavirus-pandemic and https://apnews.com/UnderstandingtheOutbreak

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    This story has been updated to correct that Pfizer and BioNTech asked for expedited approval of their vaccine, not an emergency use authorization.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/biontech-pfizer-europe-vaccine-emergency-74475974
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    Post by nalog sa ženinog laptopa Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:18 am

    sta mislite kad mozemo da ocekujemo pocetak vakcinacije u nas?


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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:50 am

    Po mom mišljenju, sledeće godine u ovo doba, nekoliko meseci nakon EU.
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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:55 am

    Velika Britanija je upravo odobrila Fajzerovu vakcinu. 
    Jedanaest meseci od prve vesti o virusu do registrovane vakcine. Najveći medicinski uspeh u istoriji, bez ikakve konkurencije.
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    Post by MNE Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:12 am

    fajzer fajzer za mene je to ficer kolko god ga amerikanizovali
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:26 am

    Kirko Skaddeng wrote:Po mom mišljenju, sledeće godine u ovo doba, nekoliko meseci nakon EU.

    Ne znam za nas, ali ubedjen sam da ce u EU pre.
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    Post by nalog sa ženinog laptopa Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:32 am

    nadao sam se da ce pre tj da ce biti dovoljno cuvati se do aprila - maja


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    Post by Guest Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:36 am

    Pa ako se Nemačka nada da će vakcinacija grupa sa niskim rizikom krenuti sredinom godine...

    Moja fraza za 2021: managing expectations.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:39 am

    Videcemo kad ce poceti anglosaksonci, to mi se definitivnocini da ce pre. Kao i Rusi.
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    Post by bemty Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:38 am

    ju kej najavljuje pocetak vec ovog meseca iduce nedelje


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    Post by bemty Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:41 am

    Kirko Skaddeng wrote:Velika Britanija je upravo odobrila Fajzerovu vakcinu. 
    Jedanaest meseci od prve vesti o virusu do registrovane vakcine. Najveći medicinski uspeh u istoriji, bez ikakve konkurencije.

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:47 am

    bemty wrote:ju kej najavljuje pocetak vec ovog meseca iduce nedelje

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