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#BREAKING: Kamala Harris is sworn in as Vice President of the United States. She is the first Black VP, first Asian-American VP, and first female VP in U.S. history. #BidenHarrisInauguration
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ne bi me začudilo da je pravo 
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kad god se pomene bajden prva socijacija mi je dosadan dan tap 011
svaki dan je novi dan kako može da ti bude dosadan
ili kao što je marko tipa aurelije imao lika da mu govori memento mori ili respica te, hominem te memento, tako će bajden da unajmi jednog da mu ponavlja tebra ti si predsednik usa, a on će na to u je
svaki dan je novi dan kako može da ti bude dosadan
ili kao što je marko tipa aurelije imao lika da mu govori memento mori ili respica te, hominem te memento, tako će bajden da unajmi jednog da mu ponavlja tebra ti si predsednik usa, a on će na to u je
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https://twitter.com/jacobreynolds/status/1351943801745661953
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A tentative thread on the Biden speech
Adam Curtis once leaned heavily on the book 'Everything was forever, until it was no more' by Alexei Yurchak - a slightly odd book about the way that language in the Soviet Union slowly degraded.
Instead of confronting reality, the job of propagandists, indeed of all official discourse, was to stitch together a series of recognisable banalities.
Ideas that once were essential parts of the concrete social project of the Soviet Union - building a worker's state - were now invoked in whatever context needed.
Thus, you could praise the 'trenchant labour of the workers' when discussing the publication of a new edition of technical guidelines for building tractors.
The incredible brittleness of this cut-and-paste discourse meant that no-one in the Soviet Union was able to process, let alone alter, the decay of the Union and its increasingly unstable economic system.
So when the end came, it came as if in a dream. It suddenly made just as much sense for the Soviet Union not to exist as it made for it to have existed for decades.
Today, Joe Biden - who has not without justice been compared to Brezhnev - stands reading a speech that is in essence the same as those made by Soviet functionaries.
No sentence bears any resemblance to the previous one, as it does in an argument, but only makes sense as a series of moderately recognisable cliches.
The point of the speech is not to refer to the world, but to refer to the system of symbols that historically legitimated the American political order.
These symbols - the american dream, opportunity, prosperity, liberty, justice, community, unity, hope - have little reality today. But that doesn't matter.
They are mere symbols, signifiers without signified. They refer to nothing but themselves. This is discourse as a hall of mirrors.
Likewise, Joe Biden is not a politician, he is a mirror: a mirror which reflects the platitudes America tells itself in order to sleep at night.
But, as Jean Beaudrillard warned us, in order to see what we want to see in the mirror, we have to hide our second-self behind it. To see 'unity' we have to hide division. To see 'prosperity' we have to hide poverty.
Hiding these things is not just a function of Joe Biden's rhetoric, but of the social project which he *does* reflect: the overwhelming need to put the populist project - which however imperfectly does reflect real division and poverty - in its box.
How long, we should ask, can America hide what it needs to hide in order to see unity? How long until those second souls, currently trapped behind the mirror, have their revenge?
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A mi smo veverice, pa ne shvatamo kontrast izmedju Trampovog govora pre 4 godine gde je bukvalno rekao da je on predsednik onih koji su glasali za njega, i da oni i samo oni mogu da se nadaju miru i prosperitetu (those who voted for me will have peace, security and prosperity), i ovoga danas sto je Bajden rekao a sto je bilo u fazonu "svi smo u istom cabru, radicu i za vas koji ste glasali protiv mene". Kad ono nije rekao sta je rekao zato sto ima smisla da se to kaze u kontekstu prethodnika a i u kontekstu sta se dogadjalo samo pre 2 nedelje na stepenicama Kapitola sa koga drzi govor, nego je to izlapeli Breznjev koji lupa po inerciji.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Pa ta rečenica baš i jeste opšte mesto dekora lib-demokratije, na kraju krajeva i kod nas se invocira.
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buffalo bill wrote:Pa ta rečenica baš i jeste opšte mesto dekora lib-demokratije, na kraju krajeva i kod nas se invocira.
"Na populisticku recenicu je odgovorio lib-demokratskom". Ne mogu da verujem sta vama smeta. I jos Breznjeva ugurao u pricu, da napravi guzvu.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Pa mozda kad bi i shvatio kad bi malo manje karikirao.
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"Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."
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Pa sta cu kacam glup. 
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Imam sličan dojam kao autor članka. Riječi zveče prazninom. Dvostruko kad ih izgovara upravo Biden, neke jedva uspijeva izgovoriti u prihvatljivoj mjeri razgovjetnosti, teško korača i generalno izgleda kao duša koja više gleda u samostalni život nego u neko veliko jedinstvo s tijelom.
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Nisi glup, nego simplifikujes. Uporedi Bajdena sa Obamom npr. Na prvi pogled iste fraze, ali Obama je imao program, kod njega su te fraze, iako i tada izandjale, bile povezane u neku koherentnu celinu. On je imao nesto na pameti. Bajden (mozda i sasvim bukvalno) nema. Ovo je kao lenji drugi deo holivudske fransize koji samo muze najuspelije fore iz prvog dela, ali bez spontanosti i originalnosti.
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"Oni kroz mene gledaju u vas! Oni kroz njega gledaju u vas! Oni kroz vas gledaju u mene... i u sve nas."
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^^ Jurčakov je termin "hipernormalizacija", što je Kertis iskoristio za naslov svog filma.
“HyperNormalisation” is a word that was coined by a brilliant Russian historian who was writing about what it was like to live in the last years of the Soviet Union. What he said, which I thought was absolutely fascinating, was that in the 80s everyone from the top to the bottom of Soviet society knew that it wasn’t working, knew that it was corrupt, knew that the bosses were looting the system, know that the politicians had no alternative vision. And they knew that the bosses knew that they knew that. Everyone knew it was fake, but because no one had any alternative vision for a different kind of society, they just accepted this sense of total fakeness as normal. And this historian, Alexei Yurchak, coined the phrase “HyperNormalisation” to describe that feeling.
I thought, “that’s a brilliant title” because, although we are not in any way really like the Soviet Union, there is a similar feeling in our present day. Everyone in my country and in America and throughout Europe knows that the system that they are living under isn’t working as it is supposed to; that there is a lot of corruption at the top. But when ever the journalists point it out, everyone goes “Wow that’s terrible!” and then nothing happens and the system remains the same.
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Videcemo za 4 godine.
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Hm.Erős Pista wrote:Nisi glup, nego simplifikujes. Uporedi Bajdena sa Obamom npr. Na prvi pogled iste fraze, ali Obama je imao program, kod njega su te fraze, iako i tada izandjale, bile povezane u neku koherentnu celinu. On je imao nesto na pameti. Bajden (mozda i sasvim bukvalno) nema.
Ja sam ovde kacio Bajdenov program odmah posle Demokratske konvencije. Svi ste to videli, niko nije komentarisao. Ni jedna jedina rec. Vama prosto ne odgovara da Bajdenov program postoji, ne uklapa vam se u narativ praznog odela koje je elita izabrala da bi odrzala status kvo, Breznjev redux.
Ja njegov izbor za predsednika mogu da objasnim jednom sportskom analogijom:
Uprava kluba zaposli mladog trenera koji deluje kao decko koji obecava. Mladi trener otpusti stare kajle (svadjajuci se sa njima preko novina), dovede nove igrace od kojih vecina nema talenat koji se vidi golim okom ali imaju ego jednog Krojfa, neke od njih preplati, i kola polako krenu nizbrdo. Posle 2-3 godine navijaci skandiraju protiv njega, novine se okrenule protiv, on se preko javnosti svadja sa svima, i uprava resi da ga otpusti. To je Tramp.
Koga da dovedu? Istog takvog? Jok, dovedu neku staru kajlu koja je po temperamentu potpuno suportna. On je tu da odradi ugovor i stabilizuje tim. Svi znaju da stara kajla nece da osvoji sampionat, ali on nije doveden zbog toga, doveden je da izbaci iz tima netalentovane budale, dovode igrace koji znaju takticki solidno da igraju i slusaju trenera, i da vrati publiku na stadion. Kad mu istekne ugovor dovesce nekog ko ima talenta da moze da uzme sampionat. E ta stara kajla je Bajden. Niko ga se nece secati za 20 godina kao coveka koji je stabilizovao tim, ali neko mora i to da uradi.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Ok, ali njihova poenta je da nije stabilizacija ono sto je potrebno.
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E sad, mislim, ja bih se s tim slozio, ali s duge strane ne bih uopste previse ucitqvao u govor.
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Pa znas kako, moras prvo da pocistis djubre koje je prethodni stanar ostavio, ne mozes odmah da krenes da renoviras stan, razbijas pregradne zidove i menjas cevi u kupatilu.
A to za govor se slazem da ne treba preterano ucitavati.
A to za govor se slazem da ne treba preterano ucitavati.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Videcemo. Nemam neki drugi pametan komentar. Imaju Kongres, to je bitno, nema skrivanja.
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Бајден је и пре уласка у Белу кућу поделио САД својим говорима и првим потезима.
Бајден би изгубио изборе и поред Короне да му републиканска врхушка није дозволила да користи у неким кључним савезним државама гласање поштом.
Бајден не може да уједини САД. Може да примири страсти ако економија буде добра али и то је питање.
Проблеми остају и фрустрације су велике испод површине.
Бајден би изгубио изборе и поред Короне да му републиканска врхушка није дозволила да користи у неким кључним савезним државама гласање поштом.
Бајден не може да уједини САД. Може да примири страсти ако економија буде добра али и то је питање.
Проблеми остају и фрустрације су велике испод површине.
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Ma ako bude krenuo da ih "miri" npravice sranje i svojoj stranci, a i Americi. Ali meni uopste ne izgleda da ce nekog "miriti". Druga strana kad dodje na vlast se ne bavi "mirenjem".
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Pa nisu isti, More. Retorika DP je uvek kao sto smo danas culi od Bajdena. DP, barem ne deklarativno, ne deli naciju po politickim linijama kao sto to radi GOP i nema to "ko nije sa nama taj je protiv nas". Ono ko partizani i četnici za vreme rata (pre nego što su komunisti došli na vlast).
Još se više vidi kolika su govna što su namestili partijski čekić Berniju. Ona njegova slika danas je bukvalno jedino po čemu će se pamtiti ovo danas i pletene rukavice.
Još se više vidi kolika su govna što su namestili partijski čekić Berniju. Ona njegova slika danas je bukvalno jedino po čemu će se pamtiti ovo danas i pletene rukavice.
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Marius Lăcătuș wrote:Pa nisu isti, More. Retorika DP je uvek kao sto smo danas culi od Bajdena. DP, barem ne deklarativno, ne deli naciju po politickim linijama
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