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by Vilmos Tehenészfiú 8/10/2020, 19:48Mene cudi da je Commision on President's Debates naprasno odlucio zaigra tvrdo, u svetlu cinjenice da covek koji dize rejting televiziji nece da pristane na njihove uslove. "There is no law requiring any presidential candidate to debate. In fact, in 1980, Jimmy Carter refused to participate in the first debate, but participated in the second. So it is up to every candidate to decide whether they want to debate or not", said CPD chairman Frank Fahrenkopf.
Američki izbori 2020.
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“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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pa to je radio i pred prve izbore pa ih je dobio, i koliko se sjecam nije nimalo srecan izgledao nakon togaDaï Djakman Faré wrote:svi potezi koje je povukao zadnjih 2 nedelje su izuetno kontraproduktivni. malteme sabotira sam sebe.Kirko Skaddeng wrote:Ma jedva je čekao izgovor da odustane od debate. Mene je jako iznenadilo da je pristao i na prvu debatu - siguran sam da je, kao medijski čovek, vrlo svestan svojih limita u komunikaciji.
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Тачно се сећам да смо то причали и пре четири године: види овог кловна, па он се труди да изгуби! А Клинтонка је имала и много убедљивију предност...
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No Country wrote:А Клинтонка је имала и много убедљивију предност...
Mesec dana pred izbore Hilari je imala oko 5 procentnih poena prednosti u odnosu na Trampa. Bajden sad ima oko 10.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/#now
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/
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pa to je radio i pred prve izbore pa ih je dobio, i koliko se sjecam nije nimalo srecan izgledao nakon toga
Ne može se ovo porediti sa 2016. Mnogo štošta mu je tada išlo na ruku. Što na globalnom planu, što unutar SAD. Time rečeno, i dalje mislim da ima realne šanse da pobedi.
Gde mu je zid?
Gde mu je industrija koju je vratio?
Gde je bolji healthcare koji je obećao?
Gde su dve milijarde za infrastrukturu?
Da li se povukao iz Irana i Avganistana kao što je obećao?
Da li je isušio močvaru?
Jebi ga, da je uradio makar nešto. U praksi se pokazao kao najinertniji predsednik postreganovske ere. Plus besmisleni gafovi.
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Ja mogu da se setim novog NAFTA ugovora, kresanja poreza, nekoliko (muslimanskih) zemalja je dobilo zabranu za ulazak u Ameriku i nista vise mi ne pada na pamet.
A da... sudije ustavnog suda. Dva komada, treca u najavi.
A da... sudije ustavnog suda. Dva komada, treca u najavi.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Pri čemu bi kresanje poreza, sudije, a vrlo verovatno i muslim ban odradio i Jeb. Da je NAFTA ozbiljno izmenjena, digla bi se prašina.
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Manje vise tipican republikanski predsednik, na steroidima (sada i bukvalno).
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forum 2016te: kraj republike, demokracije, sveta, tiranin fasista, institucije padaju, medison govno.
forum 2020te: republikanac u osnovi.
forum 2020te: republikanac u osnovi.
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Летећи Полип wrote:Pri čemu bi kresanje poreza, sudije, a vrlo verovatno i muslim ban odradio i Jeb. Da je NAFTA ozbiljno izmenjena, digla bi se prašina.
High-energy Jeb
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@ Polip: Nikakav muslim ban ne bi bio od strane Bushove familije, ne vuku oni na tu stranu.
@ Pista: Ah pa ne. Ovaj bukvalno nista nema od republikanskih vrednosti osim stavljanje konzervativnih sudija u Vrhovni sud. Ponistavanje medjunarodnih ugovora i insistiranje na bilateralnim ugovorima izmedju 2 zemlje, slabljenje NATO jer zemlje clanice nece da placaju svoj udeo, pitanja "zasto bi Amerika ulazila u rat ako bi jedna clanica zaratila (i kao primer naveo CG), podilazenje belim rasistima ("ima tu dobrih ljudi sa obe strane", rece kada se rasista raspucao u Sarlotvilu), nazivanje svojih politickih protivnika monstrumima i uopste otvoreno izazivanje podela u drustvu. Da ti ne pricam da je jos na inaguraciji u svom govoru rekao "drzave koje su glasale za mene imaju prednost" - on nikada nije ni nameravao da bude predsednik drzave, vec samo predsednik onima koji su bili za njega.
@Janko: Pa da. A sta vi u stvari zamerateVucicuTrampu?
@ Pista: Ah pa ne. Ovaj bukvalno nista nema od republikanskih vrednosti osim stavljanje konzervativnih sudija u Vrhovni sud. Ponistavanje medjunarodnih ugovora i insistiranje na bilateralnim ugovorima izmedju 2 zemlje, slabljenje NATO jer zemlje clanice nece da placaju svoj udeo, pitanja "zasto bi Amerika ulazila u rat ako bi jedna clanica zaratila (i kao primer naveo CG), podilazenje belim rasistima ("ima tu dobrih ljudi sa obe strane", rece kada se rasista raspucao u Sarlotvilu), nazivanje svojih politickih protivnika monstrumima i uopste otvoreno izazivanje podela u drustvu. Da ti ne pricam da je jos na inaguraciji u svom govoru rekao "drzave koje su glasale za mene imaju prednost" - on nikada nije ni nameravao da bude predsednik drzave, vec samo predsednik onima koji su bili za njega.
@Janko: Pa da. A sta vi u stvari zamerate
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:@ Polip: Nikakav muslim ban ne bi bio od strane Bushove familije, ne vuku oni na tu stranu.
@ Pista: Ah pa ne. Ovaj bukvalno nista nema od republikanskih vrednosti osim stavljanje konzervativnih sudija u Vrhovni sud. Ponistavanje medjunarodnih ugovora i insistiranje na bilateralnim ugovorima izmedju 2 zemlje, slabljenje NATO jer zemlje clanice nece da placaju svoj udeo, pitanja "zasto bi Amerika ulazila u rat ako bi jedna clanica zaratila (i kao primer naveo CG), podilazenje belim rasistima ("ima tu dobrih ljudi sa obe strane", rece kada se rasista raspucao u Sarlotvilu), nazivanje svojih politickih protivnika monstrumima i uopste otvoreno izazivanje podela u drustvu. Da ti ne pricam da je jos na inaguraciji u svom govoru rekao "drzave koje su glasale za mene imaju prednost" - on nikada nije ni nameravao da bude predsednik drzave, vec samo predsednik onima koji su bili za njega.
@Janko: Pa da. A sta vi u stvari zamerateVucicuTrampu?
dve strane se odnosilo na stranu koja hoce da skloni spomenik generalu Liju i stranu koja nece, ne na neonaciste.
edit: zapravo da preimenuje park oji se zove po Liju.
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Cut the taxes, stack the court, keep Israel happy. Bukvalno nista od republikanskih vrednosti 
Pritom, Trampara intimno verovatnoi nije tipican republikanac, ali nije bitan on licno, nego njegov presidency, a on je takav kakav je.
Pritom, Trampara intimno verovatnoi nije tipican republikanac, ali nije bitan on licno, nego njegov presidency, a on je takav kakav je.
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Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down -- excuse me, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?"
Reporter: "I do love Thomas Jefferson."
Trump: "Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue?
"So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.
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za zapsnik stack the court, ne znaci imenovati sudije kad se isprazni mesto, vec dodati nove sudije. To su demokratske vrednosti posto je (tiranin) FDR jedini to radio.
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Dobro Janko, pogresio sam u tom konkretnom slucaju. Znas dobro na sta mislim - nijedan incident gde su pocinioci bili beli neonacisti nije osudio.Janko Suvar wrote:Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down -- excuse me, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?"
Reporter: "I do love Thomas Jefferson."
Trump: "Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue?
"So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Erős Pista wrote:Cut the taxes, stack the court, keep Israel happy. Bukvalno nista od republikanskih vrednosti
Pritom, Trampara intimno verovatnoi nije tipican republikanac, ali nije bitan on licno, nego njegov presidency, a on je takav kakav je.
"I have no one to blame but myself. I was drawn to a party that espoused a core set of values. Character counts. Personal responsibility counts. Strong on Russia. The national debt actually mattered. Immigration made America great. A big tent party invited all. Legislation would come and go, compromises would be necessary, but those principles were assumed to be shared and defined what it meant to be a Republican for the last fifty years."
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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У праву си, ја сам то офрље гледо. Ево једног доброг упоредног линка, кога занимају детаљи:rumbeando wrote:No Country wrote:А Клинтонка је имала и много убедљивију предност...
Mesec dana pred izbore Hilari je imala oko 5 procentnih poena prednosti u odnosu na Trampa. Bajden sad ima oko 10.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/#now
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53657174
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sve ok, samo nisi pogresio slucajno. Tu istu neistinu je Bajden rekao vise puta, pocevsi od svog prvog spota u kampanji, do debate, kad ga podrzao i Valas, nas s foksa.
I nema nikog u medijima da ispravi to.
Los je Trampara, i svakako nedorastao trenutku, al nijie nikakav nacista ni opasnost za sistem.
I nema nikog u medijima da ispravi to.
Los je Trampara, i svakako nedorastao trenutku, al nijie nikakav nacista ni opasnost za sistem.
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I for one welcome our Pelosi overlords.
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Шуки, систем који дозволи да му један Трамп буде председник (Вучић, непотребно прецртати) је сасвим евидентно у опасности.
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Pa nek sistem učini nešto, pa neće više biti Tranpa.
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Nema potrebe sistem bilo sta da cini, Trump's tanking it
Liberalna restauracija ce politikoloski biti mega zanimljiva za pracenje.
Martin Belam in London and Amanda Holpuch in New York:
Donald Trump suggested on Thursday that relatives of fallen soldiers could have given him coronavirus after they visited the White House – as the timetable for the remaining two presidential debates between Trump and Biden was thrown into turmoil.
In a phone interview with the Fox Business TV channel on Thursday morning, Trump complained about coming into close contact with the veterans’ families in a gathering one day after an event at the White House where Trump nominated a new supreme court justice. Many senior figures in attendance at that event later tested positive for Covid-19.
Liberalna restauracija ce politikoloski biti mega zanimljiva za pracenje.
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aj nemoj da kakiš, ljubi te brat.Janko Suvar wrote:sve ok, samo nisi pogresio slucajno.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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Mór Thököly wrote:
Liberalna restauracija ce politikoloski biti mega zanimljiva za pracenje.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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