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    How America could fail its democracy test
    High risk that Donald Trump and Joe Biden could dispute November’s presidential result
    Edward Luce

    Donald Trump has won the electoral college by a clear margin. Yet America is in ferment. Cities around the world are holding candlelit vigils for US democracy and smaller Democratic states have joined California to threaten “Calexit”. Unions plan a general strike to pressure chief executives to back America’s majority.

    To be fair, Joe Biden won 6m more votes than Mr Trump — 52 per cent to 47 per cent. Turnout was low because of rampant coronavirus and obstacles to absentee voting. Yet Mr Trump was re-elected according to the rules. What US court would dare question the outcome?

    Forewarned is forearmed. America’s judges, governors and chief executives ought to be losing sleep over such an eventuality. Twice in the last 20 years, a candidate has won the US presidency after losing the popular vote.

    In 2000 the Supreme Court voted five to four to stop the Florida recount. Al Gore conceded to George W Bush though a full tally would probably have tilted it his way. In 2016, Mr Trump won the electoral college in spite of having 3m fewer votes than Hillary Clinton. It could easily happen again in November. This time nobody would be playing by Queensberry Rules.

    The difference with 2000 is that Americans are far likelier to view their opponents as enemies than competitors. Today’s toxicity is more redolent of the 1860 election that preceded the civil war.


    Mr Gore was too much of an institutionalist to go against the Supreme Court. Mr Biden would be branded a traitor by most of his party were he to sacrifice America’s majority on some outdated altar of national unity.

    Which institutions would be left to preserve after four more years of Mr Trump? Having watched almost every norm flouted in his first term, who could reasonably count on a free and fair election in 2024?

    The Pentagon has always found “war games” indispensable. Informed role players provide a sharper sense of how military escalations unfold. The same is true of the electoral battlefield. In three out of four US election games run by the Transition Integrity Project, a non-partisan group created by Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law school and Nils Gilman of the Berggruen Institute, the US republic hit constitutional impasse by the conclusion in January 2021.

    Even in the fourth scenario, where Mr Biden had clearly won the popular vote and the electoral college, the result was contested. Mr Trump only agreed to leave office after Mr Biden promised him a blanket pardon.

    It is the other three prospects we should worry about. Much like the situation outlined above — in which I helped play the role of the media — presidential incumbency is a huge advantage. America is unique in giving its losing chief executive another 10 weeks of power — nuclear button included — before handing over to the winner.

    It is one thing when the defeated president is Jimmy Carter or George HW Bush (the last two one-term presidents). They personified fair play. It is quite another if the loser is Mr Trump. As they say, possession is nine-tenths of the law.

    The other games began with a narrow Biden victory and an inconclusive electoral college result. In both cases, Mr Trump threatened to federalise the national guard to skew or shut down ballot recounts in contested states. Bill Barr, the US attorney-general, helped Republican legislatures certify results that contradicted their Democratic governors. Four swing states — Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and North Carolina — have split party control. In each scenario, Mr Trump leverages his office to gain the upper hand. The Supreme Court remains aloof.
     
    None of this is far-fetched. No matter who was playing the game, Mr Trump’s instincts were never in question. The participants — senior legal, political and former government figures — were split between Republicans and Democrats. These were exercises rather than forecasts. Yet they left little doubt that the only prospect for a peaceful transition would be a strong victory for either candidate in November.

    Since Mr Trump has almost no chance of winning the popular vote, the most realistic hope for US stability would be a clear Biden victory. Today’s polls suggest he would win comfortably. But Mr Biden’s lead will probably narrow in the 18 weeks between now and then. The closer the race, the less soundly we should sleep. American democracy is heading into the mother of all stress tests.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:02 pm

    To je pre svega ispit za bezbednosne snage. Za to to sluzi, izmedju ostalog, u zemljama koje su, ipak, na najvisem nivou, pravne drzave.
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    Post by beatakeshi Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:22 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:To je pre svega ispit za bezbednosne snage. Za to to sluzi, izmedju ostalog, u zemljama koje su, ipak, na najvisem nivou, pravne drzave.
    Posle Epštajnovog samoubistva se ne bih razbacivao tako velikim rečima.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:29 am

    Na stranu što velika većina onih sa ovlašćenjem da nose oružje naginju jednoj strani.


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    Post by boomer crook Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:37 am

    dobro, karijera kevina spejsija je zvanicno gotova.


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    Било би још боље да не навијају за Лејкерсе.
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    Post by hk1 Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:24 am

    Erzsébet Biszak wrote:ima privatno naselje u blizini ostružničkog mosta na savskom nasipu, mislim da je to tamo gde toma diploma ima vikendicu
    ima kapija, ima čuvar, ima kamere ima sve
    i sa druge strane je katastrofa
    od ostruznice do umke je maltene nemoguce prici savi od "vikendica" i pripadajucih ogradjenih parcela
    ako se i probije pored toga, saceka niz "splavova"
    jebo nam pas mater

    Somlói Galuska wrote:Prva fotka je bila iz daljine, pa nisam video da je matora. Mislio sam da je mustang.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:13 pm

    Over the weekend, townspeople in Sonoyta on the Arizona border used their own vehicles to block the road leading to Puerto Peñasco, a beach town on the Sea of Cortés popular with US tourists – and they plan to repeat the process this week.

    “We invite US tourists not to visit Mexico,” Sonoyta’s mayor, José Ramos Arzate, said in a statement. “We agreed on this to safeguard the health of our community in the face of an accelerated rate of Covid-19 contagion in the neighboring state of Arizona.”

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    Post by Летећи Полип Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:19 pm

    Dobro sad. Malo je bezveze da stanovnici jednog grada blokiraju pristup turistima koji su krenuli u drugi grad.


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:10 pm

    The Cost of the Evangelical Betrayal


    White, conservative Christians who set aside the tenets of their faith to support Donald Trump are now left with little to show for it.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/white-evangelicals-gambled-and-lost/613999/

    Clanak nije preterano interesantan osim ovog sto pise na kraju:


    This pastor, a lifelong Republican who declined to be quoted by name because of the position he occupies, wrote that “for decades Hollywood has portrayed conservative Christians as cruel, ignorant, greedy, and hypocritical. For 20 years I have worked, led, and sacrificed to put the lie to that stereotype, and have done so successfully here … Because of how we have served the least of the least, city officials, school officials, and many atheists have formed a respect for Jesus and his church. And I’m watching all that get washed away.”


    He added, “Yes, Hollywood and the media created a decidedly unattractive stereotype of Christians. And Donald Trump fits it perfectly. Made it all seem true. And sadly, I now realize that stereotype is more true than I ever knew. It breaks my heart. In volleyball terms, Hollywood did the set, but Trump was the spike that drove the ball home. He’s everything I’ve been trying to say isn’t what the church is all about. But sadly, maybe it is.”


    tldr: ne volim Trampa jer je ubedio ljude da su predrasude o meni i mojim jaranima 100% tacne. Carevo novo odelo. Sweet. 


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:21 pm

    Ih, kad se jos sve to kod nas desilo...
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:42 am

    Michael Kranish wrote:

    “After college, after Trump mostly gave up his personal athletic interests, he came to view time spent playing sports as time wasted. Trump believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted. So he didn't work out. When he learned that John O'Donnell, one of his top casino executives, was training for an Ironman triathlon, he admonished him, 'You are going to die young because of this.'"


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by beatakeshi Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:02 pm

    Kolika je kvota da Ghislaine poživi do suđenja?
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    Post by disident Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:17 am



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    Jedini proleter Burundija
    Pristalica krvne osvete
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:24 am

    Ima i lepih vesti:



    A North Carolina woman who recently went viral for going on vile, racist rants -- and was later arrested for assault -- is now fighting for her life after a bizarre accident involving a fire truck.


    Rachel Dawn Ruit was struck by an Asheville Fire Department pickup truck Monday afternoon after stepping out in front of traffic ... according to a witness.

    Asheville PD says Ruit is "suffering from life threatening injuries" and is at the hospital in critical condition. The accident is being investigated.

    Ruit is, unfortunately, otherwise known for appearing in multiple videos in downtown Asheville spewing racism ... and for her July 4 arrest for allegedly attacking both a woman in a hijab and a Black teenager.

    Ruit allegedly ripped off the woman's head covering and grabbed the teenager in the groin. She was arrested and charged with simple assault, disorderly conduct and second degree trespassing.



    Before her arrest, Ruit made news after people posted videos of her from June 13 and July 1 going on racist tirades. During the July 1 incident, witnesses claim she tried to attack a child and cops were called several times ... but never showed up.


    btw, izgleda da je umrla.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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