Virus
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da li je samo meni ovo "instrukcije kineskih doktora" vs "nase metode" jako sumnjiva postavka ?
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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ne verujem da je to na sta ciljas, prosto se poklopilo sa rastom doktrine da sa respiratorima treba biti oprezan. nije to neka nasa metoda, stizalo je iz spanije i italije.
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#FreeFacu
Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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Prof. dr. sc. Gordan Lauc radi kao redoviti profesor u trajnom zvanju na Farmaceutsko-biokemijskom fakultetu u Zagrebu, a izabran je i za profesora na američkim sveučilištima Harvard i Johns Hopkins, zatim Kings College u Londonu, te na Sveučilištu u Edinburghu. No danas većinu istraživanja provodi u svom privatnom znanstvenom institutu Genos, koji je osnovao 2007. godine te ga je doveo do pozicije globalnog lidera u području visokoprotočne glikomike. I prije no što su se u Hrvatskoj otvorili europski fondovi za svoja istraživanja je izravno iz Bruxellesa dobio više od 10 milijuna eura. Na njegovim projektima danas radi pedesetak mladih znanstvenika, a zbog njih je i četrnaest znanstvenika iz zemalja poput Rusije i Kine, no i Njemačke, Italije i Francuske došlo raditi u Hrvatsku.
S profesorom Laucom razgovaramo o cjepivu protiv bolesti COVID-19, o tome kako je virus zaustavio svijet, a to nikada prije nije učinio, o strategijama suočavanja sa zarazom, što će se dogoditi na jesen i koliko je opasan drugi val, o asimptomatskim slučajevima, kako to da neki ljudi imaju teški oblik bolesti, a drugi nemaju, o riziku smrtnosti od bolesti COVID-19, kakve pouke smo izvukli iz ove situacije itd.
Putem Skypea u emisiji će sudjelovati akademik Igor Rudan iz Edinburgha te profesor Igor Štagljar iz Toronta. Govorit će o tome je li znanstvenu zajednicu ovaj virus iznenadio, što smo naučili u ovoj pandemiji te kakva nas budućnost čeka.
Autor: Romano Bolković
Urednica: Slavica Babić
https://hr.linkedin.com/in/gordanlaucGordan Lauc
Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology & Founder and CEO of Genos Ltd
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National Center of Excellence in Personalised Healthcare
Nov 2015 – Present - 4 years 7 months
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King's College London
Aug 2015 – Present - 4 years 10 months
London, United Kingdom
Genos Ltd
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Genos Ltd
Apr 2007 – Present- 13 years 2 months
Zagreb, Croatia
Founder and CEO of Genos Ltd
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Faculty of Pharmacy and Biochemistry, University of Zagreb
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Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
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- Post n°829
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/12/leaked-chinese-coronavirus-database-number-cases/EXCLUSIVE
Leaked Chinese Virus Database Covers 230 Cities, 640,000 Updates
New information may offer insight into the honesty of China’s coronavirus numbers.
BY ISAAC STONE FISH, MARIA KROL SINCLAIR | MAY 12, 2020, 8:32 PM
Beijing claims that since the coronavirus pandemic began at the end of last year, there have been only 82,919 confirmed cases and 4,633 deaths in mainland China. Those numbers could be roughly accurate, and in that case a detailed account would be an important tool in judging the spread of the virus. But it’s also possible that the numbers presented to the rest of the world are vastly understated compared to Beijing’s private figures. The opaqueness and mistrust of outsiders in the Chinese Communist Party’s system makes it hard to judge—but learning more about the coronavirus data used directly by Chinese officials is invaluable for governments elsewhere. A dataset of coronavirus cases and deaths from the military’s National University of Defense Technology, leaked to Foreign Policy, offers insight into how Beijing has gathered coronavirus data on its population. The source of the leak, who asked to remain anonymous because of the sensitivity of sharing Chinese military data, said that the data came from the university. The school publishes a data tracker for the coronavirus: The online version matches with the leaked information, except it is far less detailed—it shows just the map of cases, not the distinct data.
The dataset, though it contains inconsistencies—and though it may not be comprehensive enough to contradict Beijing’s official numbers—is the most extensive dataset proved to exist about coronavirus cases in China. But more importantly, it can serve as a valuable trove of information for epidemiologists and public health experts around the globe—a dataset that Beijing has almost certainly not shared with U.S. officials or doctors. (The World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did not immediately respond to requests for comment.)
While not fully comprehensive, the data is incredibly rich: There are more than 640,000 updates of information, covering at least 230 cities—in other words, 640,000 rows purporting to show the number of cases in a specific location at the time the data was gathered. Each update includes the latitude, longitude, and “confirmed” number of cases at the location, for dates ranging from early February to late April.
For locations in and around the center of the outbreak in Wuhan, Hubei province, the data also includes deaths and those who “recovered.” It’s unclear how the dataset’s authors define “confirmed” and “recovered”: Like other countries, China has updated its counting methods, as demonstrated in mid-February when Hubei’s reported cases spiked because officials announced they were including patients diagnosed with CT scans. Unlike in other countries, China’s outbreak peaked before rigorous testing methods were widely available, and the Communist Party often manipulates data for political purposes.
The data reviewed by Foreign Policy includes hospital locations, but it also includes place names corresponding to apartment compounds, hotels, supermarkets, railway stations, restaurants, and schools across the breadth of the country. The dataset reports one case of coronavirus in a KFC in the eastern city of Zhenjiang on March 14, for example, while a church in the northeastern provincial capital of Harbin saw two cases on March 17. (The data does not include the names of the individuals who contracted or died from the disease, and the reports of the cases in the dataset could not be independently verified.)
It’s unclear as yet how the university gathered the data. The online version says that they aggregated the data from China’s health ministry, the National Health Commission, media reports, and other public sources. According to its website, the university, based in the central Chinese city of Changsha, is “under the direct leadership of the Central Military Commission,” the body that oversees China’s military. The military has played a large role in mobilizing against the virus: It has helped enforce quarantines, transport supplies, and treat patients. A propaganda message on a prominent military website in China reads, “In the fight against the epidemic, the people’s army is on the move!”
The man most responsible for building the database appears to be Zhang Haisu, a director at the school’s Information and Communication Department. In a May press release, the university credits Zhang for building the “Fight the Virus to Return to Work Database” and praises his dedication. A note on the data tracker’s website reads, “Currently our country is taking forceful measures, and the epidemic situation is being strictly managed and controlled. Please correctly understand that to use the relevant data.” The site features a contact email for a Zhang Haisu; no one responded when Foreign Policy reached out. The university did not respond to a request for comment.
Foreign Policy and 100Reporters, who are co-publishing this piece, are not making the database publicly available for now for reasons of security, but are exploring ways to make the data available for researchers studying the spread of the coronavirus.
For its popular coronavirus tracker, John Hopkins University gathers its data on Chin from DXY, a Chinese medical platform that aggregates cases in the country. But DXY provides information at only the provincial level. Richer information would benefit researchers, and ordinary people who are eager to know more about how the disease has affected other countries and spread. Patterns in the data could add to what is known about the disease, and the ways Beijing manipulates its numbers. Medical researchers expressed skepticism in mid-April, after Wuhan revised the number of coronavirus deaths from 2,579 to 3,869—an increase of exactly 50 percent.
Why does Beijing restrict access to its coronavirus data? Possibly because of malice or mistrust toward the United States, at a time when tensions are running high. Possibly because of bureaucratic errors. And possibly because Beijing fears that outside researchers will learn of its extensive cover-up, destroying the narrative that an authoritarian nation like China is better equipped to protect its people against a pandemic. Even the public version of the National University of Defense Technology dataset sporadically restricts American IP addresses. To access the military university’s website hosting the map for the first time, one of the present authors had to use a virtual private network to pretend he was browsing in Uruguay.
This piece was co-published with 100Reporters.
Isaac Stone Fish is a journalist and senior fellow at the Asia Society’s Center on U.S-China Relations. He was formerly the Asia editor at Foreign Policy Magazine. Twitter: @isaacstonefish
Maria Krol Sinclair is an independent researcher living in Washington DC. She primarily researches space and technology policy.
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Re: Virus
Evo jednog prilično detaljnog pregleda dobrog dela mogućih dugoročnih posledica (zbog dužine u spoileru, u originalnom članku reference su linkovane):
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The emerging long-term complications of Covid-19, explained
“It is a true roller coaster of symptoms and severities, with each new day offering many unknowns.”
By Lois Parshley May 8, 2020, 1:10pm EDT
At first, Lauren Nichols tried to explain away her symptoms. In early March, the healthy 32-year-old felt an intense burning sensation, like acid reflux, when she breathed. Embarrassed, she didn’t initially seek medical care. When her shortness of breath kept getting worse, her doctor tested her for Covid-19.
Her results came back positive. But for Nichols, that was just the beginning. Over the next eight weeks, she developed wide and varied symptoms, including extreme and chronic fatigue, diarrhea, nausea, tremors, headaches, difficulty concentrating, and short-term memory loss.
“The guidelines that were provided by the CDC [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] were not appropriately capturing the symptoms that I was experiencing, which in turn meant that the medical community was unable to ‘validate’ my symptoms,” she says. “This became a vicious cycle of doubt, confusion, and loneliness.”
Somewhere between 5 and 80 percent of people who test positive for Covid-19 may be asymptomatic, or only develop symptoms days or even weeks after their test, and many of these people will have a mild form of the illness with no lasting symptoms. But Nichols is one of many Covid-19 patients who are finding their recovery takes far longer than the two weeks the World Health Organization says people with mild cases can expect. (The WHO says those with severe or critical cases can expect three to six weeks of recovery.)
Because Covid-19 is a new disease, there are no studies about its long-term trajectory for those with more severe symptoms; even the earliest patients to recover in China were only infected a few months ago. But doctors say the novel coronavirus can attach to human cells in many parts of the body and penetrate many major organs, including the heart, kidneys, brain, and even blood vessels.
“The difficulty is sorting out long-term consequences,” says Joseph Brennan, a cardiologist at the Yale School of Medicine. While some patients may fully recover, he and other experts worry others will suffer long-term damage, including lung scarring, heart damage, and neurological and mental health effects.
The UK National Health Service assumes that of Covid-19 patients who have required hospitalization, 45 percent will need ongoing medical care, 4 percent will require inpatient rehabilitation, and 1 percent will permanently require acute care. Other preliminary evidence, as well as historical research on other coronaviruses like severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), suggests that for some people, a full recovery might still be years off. For others, there may be no returning to normal.
There’s a lot we still don’t know, but here are a few of the most notable potential long-term impacts that are already showing up in some Covid-19 patients.
Lung scarring
Melanie Montano, 32, who tested positive for Covid-19 in March, says that more than seven weeks after she first got sick, she still experiences symptoms on and off, including burning in her lungs and a dry cough.
Brennan says symptoms like that occur because “this virus creates an incredibly aggressive immune response, so spaces [in the lungs] are filled with debris and pus, making your lungs less pliable.”
On CT scans, while normal lungs appear black, Covid-19 patients’ lungs frequently have lighter gray patches, called “ground-glass opacities” — which may not heal.
One study from China found that this ground-glass appearance showed up in scans of 77 percent of Covid-19 patients. In another study out of China, published in Radiology, 66 of 70 hospitalized patients had some amount of lung damage in CT scans, and more than half had the kind of lesions that are likely to develop into scars. (A third study from China suggests this is not just for critically ill patients; its authors found that of 58 asymptomatic patients, 95 percent also had evidence of these ground-glass opacities in their lungs. More than a quarter of these individuals went on to develop symptoms within a few days.)
“These kinds of tissue changes can cause permanent damage,” says Ali Gholamrezanezhad, a radiologist at the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California.
Although it’s still too early to know if patients with ongoing lung symptoms like Montano will have permanent lung damage, doctors can learn more about what to expect from looking back to people who have recovered from SARS and MERS, other coronaviruses that resulted in similar lung tissue changes.
One small longitudinal study published in Nature followed 71 SARS patients from 2003 until 2018 and found that more than a third had residual scarring, which can mean reduced lung capacity. MERS is a little harder to extrapolate from, since fewer than 2,500 people were infected, and somewhere between 30 and 40 percent died. But one study found that about a third of 36 MERS survivors also had long-term lung damage.
Gholamrezanezhad has recently done a literature review of SARS and MERS and says that for this subset of people, “The pulmonary function never comes back; their ability to do normal activities never goes back to baseline.”
Additionally, Covid-19 scarring rates may end up being higher than SARS and MERS patients because those illnesses often attacked only one lung. But Covid-19 appears to often affect both lungs, which Gholamrezanezhad says escalates the risks of lung scarring.
He has already seen residual scarring in Covid-19 patients and is now designing a study to identify what factors might make some people at higher risk of permanent damage. He suspects having any type of underlying lung disease, like asthma, or other health conditions, like hypertension, might increase the risk of having longer-term lung issues. Additionally, “the older you are, probably the higher your chance of scarring,” he says.
For people with this kind of lung scarring, normal activities may become more challenging. “Routine things, like running up a flight of stairs, would leave these individuals gasping for air,” Brennan says.
Stroke, embolisms, and blood clotting
Many patients hospitalized for Covid-19 are experiencing unexpectedly high rates of blood clots, likely due to inflammatory responses to the infection. These can cause lung blockages, strokes, heart attacks, and other complications with serious, lasting effects.
Blood clots that form in or reach the brain can cause a stroke. Although strokes are more typically seen in older people, strokes are now being reported even in young Covid-19 patients. In Wuhan, China, about 5 percent of hospitalized Covid-19 patients had strokes, and a similar pattern was reported with SARS.
In younger people who have strokes, mortality rates are relatively low compared to those who are older, and many people recover. But studies show only between 42 and 53 percent are able to return to work.
Blood clots can also cut off circulation to part of the lungs, a condition known as a pulmonary embolism, which can be deadly. In France, two studies suggest that between 23 and 30 percent of people with severe Covid-19 are also having pulmonary embolisms.
One analysis found that after a pulmonary embolism, “symptoms and functional limitations are frequently reported by survivors.” These include fatigue, heart palpitations, shortness of breath, marked limitation of physical activity, and inability to do physical activity without discomfort.
Blood clots in other major organs can also cause serious problems. Renal failure has been a common challenge in many severe Covid-19 patients, and patients’ clotted blood has been clogging dialysis machines. Some of these acute kidney injuries may be permanent, requiring ongoing dialysis.
Clots outside organs can be serious, too. Deep vein thrombosis, for example, occurs when a blood clot forms in a vein, often the legs. Nick Cordero, a Tony-nominated Broadway and television actor, recently had to have his right leg amputated after Covid-related blood clots.
Abnormal blood clotting even seems to be happening in people after they’ve appeared to recover. One 32-year-old woman in Chicago, for example, had been discharged from the hospital for a week when she died suddenly with a severely swollen leg, a sign of deep vein thrombosis, according to local broadcaster WGN9. Or take Troy Randle, a 49-year-old cardiologist in New Jersey, who was declared safe to go back to work after recovering from Covid-19 when he developed a vicious headache. A CT scan confirmed he’d had a stroke.
Although there’s still a shortage of data, one study found that as many as 31 percent of ICU patients with Covid-19 infections had these kinds of clotting problems. In the meantime, the International Society on Thrombosis and Haemostasis has issued guidelines that recovered Covid-19 patients should continue taking anticoagulants even after being discharged from the hospital.
Heart damage
Being critically ill, especially with low oxygen levels, puts additional stress on the heart. But doctors now think that in Covid-19 patients, viral particles might also be specifically inflaming the heart muscle. (The heart has many ACE2 receptors, which scientists have identified as an entry point for the SARS-CoV-2 virus.)
“In China, doctors noted some people coming [in] with chest pain,” says Mitchell Elkind, president-elect of the American Heart Association and professor of neurology and epidemiology at Columbia University. “They had a heart attack, and then developed Covid symptoms or tested positive after.”
One study from Wuhan in January found 12 percent of Covid-19 patients had signs of cardiovascular damage. These patients had higher levels of troponin, a protein released in the blood by an injured heart muscle. Since then, other reports suggest the virus may directly cause acute myocarditis and heart failure. (Heart failure was also seen with MERS and is known to be correlated with even the seasonal flu.)
In March, another study looked at 416 hospitalized Covid-19 patients and found 19 percent showed signs of heart damage. University of Texas Health Science Center researchers warn that in survivors, Covid-19 may cause lingering cardiac damage, as well as making existing cardiovascular problems worse, further increasing the risk for heart attack and stroke.
A pulmonary critical care doctor at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City, for example, recovered from Covid-19, only to learn she had developed cardiomyopathy, a condition where your heart has trouble delivering blood around your body. Although previously healthy, when she returned to work, she told NBC, “I couldn’t run around like I always do.”
The specific consequences may vary depending on how the heart is affected. For example, Covid-19 has been linked to myocarditis, a condition where inflammation weakens the heart, creates scar tissue, and makes it work harder to circulate the body’s oxygen. The Myocarditis Foundation recommends these patients avoid cigarettes and alcohol, and stay away from rigorous exercise until approved by their doctor.
Neurocognitive and mental health impacts
Covid-19 also seems to affect the central nervous system, with potentially long-lasting consequences. In one study from China, more than a third of 214 people hospitalized with confirmed Covid-19 had neurological symptoms, including dizziness, headaches, impaired consciousness, vision, taste/smell impairment, and nerve pain while they were ill. These symptoms were more common in patients with severe cases, where the incidence increased to 46.5 percent. Another study in France found neurologic features in 58 of 64 critically ill Covid-19 patients.
As the pandemic goes on, Elkind says, “We need to be on the lookout for long-term neurocognitive problems.”
Looking back to SARS and MERS suggests that Covid-19 patients may have slightly delayed onset of neurological impacts. Andrew Josephson, a doctor at the University of California San Francisco, wrote in JAMA, “Although the SARS epidemic was limited to about 8,000 patients worldwide, there were some limited reports of neurologic complications of SARS that appeared in patients 2 to 3 weeks into the course of the illness.” These included muscular weakness, burning or prickling, and numbness, and the breakdown of muscle tissue into the blood. Neurological injuries, including impaired balance and coordination, confusion, and coma, were also found with MERS.
Long-term complications of Covid-19 — whether caused by the virus itself or the inflammation it triggers — could include decreased attention, concentration, and memory, as well as dysfunction in peripheral nerves, “the ones that go to your arms, legs, fingers, and toes,” Elkind says.
There are other cognitive implications for people who receive intensive treatment in hospitals. For example, delirium — an acutely disturbed state of mind that can result in confusion and seeing or hearing things that aren’t there — affects a third or more of ICU patients, and research suggests the presence of delirium during severe illness predicts future long-term cognitive decline.
Previous research on acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) more generally may also provide clues to what neurological issues critically ill Covid-19 patients might see after leaving the hospital.
Research shows one in five ARDS survivors experiences long-term cognitive impairment, even five years after being discharged. Continuing impairments can include short-term memory problems and difficulty with learning and executive function. These can lead to challenges like difficulty working, impaired money management, or struggling to perform daily tasks.
ARDS survivors frequently have increased rates of depression and anxiety, and many experience post-traumatic stress. Although it’s still too early to have much data on Covid-19, during the SARS outbreak, former patients struggled with psychological distress and stress for at least a year after the outbreak.
“I felt imprisoned within my body, imprisoned within my home, and tremendously ignored and misunderstood by the general public, and even those closest to me,” Nichols says about her battle with Covid-19. “I feel incredibly alone.”
Jane, who prefers to use a pseudonym because she fears retribution at the hospital where she works, tested positive for Covid-19 more than a month ago. She’s still struggling with fevers, heart issues, and neurological issues, but the most difficult part, she says, is how tired she is of “being treated like I am a bomb that no one knows how to disarm.” Jane, a nurse who cared for AIDS patients during the ’90s, says, “This is exactly what those people went through. There is a terrible stigma.” In addition to the stigma, uncertainty has added to her mental health burden.
“People need to know this disease can linger and wreck your life and health,” she says. “And no one knows what to do for us.”
Childhood inflammation, male infertility, and other possible lasting effects
The novel coronavirus continues to frustrate scientists and patients alike with its mysteries. One of these is a small but growing number of children who recently began showing up at doctors’ offices in Britain, Italy, and Spain with strange symptoms, including a rash, a high fever, and heart inflammation.
On May 4, the New York City Health Department noted that at least 15 children with these symptoms had been hospitalized there, too. These cases present like a severe immune response called Kawasaki disease, where blood vessels can begin to leak, and fluid builds up in the lungs and other major organs. Although only some of these children have tested positive for Covid-19, Russell Viner, president of the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health, told the New York Times, “the working hypothesis is that it’s Covid-related.”
Children who survive Kawasaki-like conditions can suffer myocardial and vascular complications in adulthood. But it’s too early to know how Covid-related cases will develop. Many of the small number of reported cases appear to be responding well to treatment.
Other researchers are suggesting that Covid-19 may pose particular problems for men beyond their disproportionate mortality from the illness. The testicles contain a high number of ACE2 receptors, explained researcher Ali Raba, in a recent letter to the World Journal of Urology. “There is a theoretical possibility of testicular damage and subsequent infertility following COVID-19 infection,” he wrote.
Another study, looking at 38 patients in China who had been severely ill with Covid-19, found that during their illness, 15 had virus RNA in their semen samples, as did two of 23 recovering patients. (The presence of viral RNA doesn’t necessarily indicate infectious capacity.)
Another recent study also showed that in 81 men with Covid-19, male hormone ratios were off, which could signal trouble for fertility down the line. The authors called for more attention to be paid, particularly on “reproductive-aged men.” An April 20 paper published in Nature went so far as to suggest, “After recovery from COVID-19, young men who are interested in having children should receive a consultation regarding their fertility.”
And we are just at the beginning of figuring out what this complex infection means for other organ systems and their recovery. For example, a recent preprint from Chinese doctors looked at 34 Covid-19 survivors’ blood. While they saw a difference between severe and mild cases, the researchers found that regardless of the severity of the disease, after recovered patients were discharged from the hospital, many biological measures “failed to return to normal.” The most concerning measures suggested ongoing impaired liver function.
What all of this means for survivors and researchers
As all this preliminary research shows, we are still in the early days of understanding what this virus might mean for the growing number of Covid-19 survivors — what symptoms they might expect to have, how long it might take them to get back to feeling normal (if they ever will), and what other precautions they might need to be taking.
Many people aren’t even receiving adequate information about when it might be safe for them to stop self-isolating. Nichols and other survivors report feeling better one day and terrible the next.
But in the chaos Covid-19 has caused in the medical systems, survivors say it’s hard to get attention for their ongoing struggles. “The support and awareness is simply lacking,” Nichols says. “It is a true roller coaster of symptoms and severities, with each new day offering many unknowns: I may feel healthier one day but may feel utterly debilitated and in pain the next.”
Lois Parshley is a freelance investigative journalist and the 2019-2020 Snedden Chair of Journalism at the University of Alaska Fairbanks. Follow her Covid-19 reporting on Twitter @loisparshley.
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Re: Virus
Sa Vox92 foruma o situaciji u Švedskoj:
Ako nekog zanima kako situacija u Svedskoj izgleda "na terenu", znaci van konteksta svetskih statistika, pravih i fake news, evo ovako.
Jucer je na javnom servisu isao prilog o jednoj devojci koja se razbolela pre otprilike devet nedelja. Pocelo je s visokom temperaturom, i tu su je prvo oko dve nedelje zavlacili telefonom (jedini nacin da stupis u kontakt s nekom zdravstvenom ustanovom i inace, a posebno sad) i govorili joj da pije dosta tecnosti, ne ide na posao i ostali bla-bla. Posto nije prestajalo, dobila je priliku da posle dve nedelje sretne svog lekara u domu zdravlja i tu opisuje kako joj je merio saturaciju, da je trebalo pri tome da hoda, ali da se drzala za lekara i zidove, jer nije znala gde je. Opet je poslata kuci, ali sada je bar lekar redovno zvao i pitao kako je. Nije bila ni bolje i gore ni sledecih nedelja, ali sve je ostajalo na razgovorima i savetima. Doduse, temperatura joj vise nije bila 40 nego 38, i pri tome je nestajala na nekoliko dana, pa se ponovo vracala. U medjuvremenu, dobila je tremor ruku i kognitivne probleme u formi smanjene koncentracije, pamcenja, povremene dezorijentacije itd. Lekar je tada narucio neke probe (elektronski, u njenom zurnalu, koji je dostupan svim zdravstvenim ustanovama) i onda krece potraga za mestom na kojem ce da joj izvade krv, jer to ipak ne moze online. Zvala telefonom, negde pokusala i licno da ode, i nigde nije primljena. Odbijena je cak i u satoru postavljenom ispred Karolinske, bas u te svrhe. Dakle, ima uredan uput od lekara i nigde je ne primaju, jer je sumnjiva na covid. I to je to, zadnje dve nedelje pokusava da negde da krv na testiranje da bi lekar mogao uopste da vidi sta joj je. Na covid nikad nije testirana, vec joj je lekar negde u petoj nedelji bolesti saopstio da verovatno ima to, jer nema sta drugo da bude.
Od mojih 15 kolega na poslu, tri prolaze istu pricu. Dve su bile na bolovanju negde krajem marta i pocetkom aprila, po 3-4 nedelje, a onda su pocele da rade od kuce. Sad smo svakodnevno na skype sastancima, pa imam direktan uvid. Ista stvar kao ova devojka gore. Temperatura koja dolazi i prolazi, cudne senzacije u telu koje isto budu pa prodju, stalni telefonski kontakti s lekarom, ali bez poseta i testova. Nijednoj od njih nikad nije receno da imaju covid, vec im se telefonom prati stanje i daju saveti. Otprilike na svake dve nedelje dobiju zakazan termin kod lekara, ali opet samo razgovor i opsti pregled. U medjuvremenu rade iskljucivo online dok mi ostali imamo shemu tako da je svakog dana po dvoje u kancelariji, ostali rade od kuce. Imamo i trecu koleginicu koja je na bolovanju sada cetvrtu nedelju, jos ne znamo kako ce ici s njom. Ne znam ni da li se ijedna od cetiri pomenute u ovom postu broji u obolele od covida, jer nijedna nije testirana. Ni same ne mogu da kazu da li im je bolest potvrdjena, jer im je receno da je verovatno to, ali ne i da je sigurno.
Sto se nasih klijenata tice, a to su stari ljudi, odliv je ogroman. Tek u poslednjih nedelju-dve se pojavljuju po bolnicama, pre toga su samo umirali, sami i izolovani, kod kuce i po domovima. Za ove po bolnicama znam da su testirani, za ostale da nisu. Ustvari se vise testiraju zdravi ljudi, oni koji dolaze u kontakt s rizicnim grupama, dakle pre svega zdravstveni radnici i osoblje po starackim domovima u kojima je zabelezen veci broj umrlih. Oni koji imaju izrazene simptome, kao moje koleginice, stanovnici domova i mnogi drugi, se ne testiraju, nego se dijagnoza postavlja nakon par nedelja simptoma koji ne prolaze sami od sebe. Ako u nekom trenutku postane kriticno, smestaju se u bolnicu i tek tada testiraju. Stari cesto i ne stignu do tu, vec umru gde su se zatekli. Ne znam da li svi oni ulaze u statistiku obolelih i umrlih, ili samo testirani. Ustvari niko ne zna i nema pravila, izgleda da je sve od slucaja do slucaja.
Takodjer ne znam da li je bolji ovaj totalni nedostatak informacija, ili njihova prevelika kolicina, kao sto je u nekim drugim zemljama. Ali znam da ovo kod nas rezultira opstim stanjem nesigurnosti i brige, koje traje vec toliko dugo da je tesko ostati normalan. Privid da je sve u redu, slobodno kretanje uz izvestan oprez, privreda koja kobajagi radi i sve ostalo, polako se gubi i ostaje samo strah. Ne samo da ces se razboleti, nego i da neces dobiti adekvatnu, ili bar bilo kakvu negu, i da ces se umesto toga "leciti" telefonom.
Koga nije mrzelo da cita, mozda sad ima jasniju sliku kako izgleda doba korone u Svedskoj. Hvala na paznji.
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blood eagle-ovati glavnog epidemiologa. samo homersko nasilje.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_eagle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_eagle
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i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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Bolnice u Mumbaju (bivšem Bombaju) se raspadaju na 1‰ registrovanih zaraženih u odnosu na broj stanovnika tog grada (18k na 18M).
https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/covid-19-mumbai-hospitals-near-collapse-1.1589611255885COVID-19: Mumbai hospitals near collapse
India spends less than two per cent of its GDP on healthcare
Published: May 16, 2020 10:38
AFP
Mumbai: Packed morgues, bodies in wards, patients forced to share beds and medical workers run ragged: Mumbai's war against coronavirus has pushed the Indian city's hospitals to breaking point.
Ravi, 26, had to change his mother's diapers himself as she lay dying from the disease in the huge Lokmanya Tilak Municipal General Hospital, better known as Sion.
"They would just give us medicines and leave," Ravi (not his real name) told AFP. Staff in the 1,300-bed facility were "overworked and tired", he said, with sometimes three patients per bed.
Now he too has contracted the virus and is in another hospital - but only after four facilities refused to admit him. "We don't have the infrastructure for this disease," he said.
The state-run Sion hospital has become a byword for the stunning failure of Mumbai - home to billionaires, Bollywood and slums - to cope with the pandemic.
A video widely shared on social media and shown on Indian TV showed corpses wrapped in black plastic left on beds in a ward where patients are being treated.
Authorities said they were investigating the footage.
'So many cases'
With space at a premium, and relatives too afraid or unable to claim their dead because they are themselves in quarantine, disposal of coronavirus corpses is not easy, doctors say.
But dealing with the sick is much harder.
"We don't have enough beds to manage so many cases. The emergency area gets full in a matter of hours," Aditya Burje, a junior doctor working night shifts at Sion hospital, told AFP.
The hospital's proximity to India's biggest slum Dharavi makes it a key battleground in the fight against the pandemic.
"In March there were just one or two suspected cases a day. It all seemed to be under control. Then the situation drastically changed," the 25-year-old said.
By the end of April, Burje and his colleagues were overwhelmed.
"We were seeing 50-100 patients a day, 80 percent of whom would turn out to be positive and many would need to be on oxygen," he said.
Doctors not paid
Like many doctors at state-run hospitals, Burje, who gets a $700 (Dh2,571) monthly stipend, has not been paid since India went into lockdown in late March.
He has not had a night off in two months.
With nearly a third of his medical school cohort at the hospital diagnosed with coronavirus, he admitted he was scared to go to work.
"If something happens, who will take care of me?"
'System exploding'
Sion hospital is not alone in India's financial capital. And everyone - from medical students to doctors with decades of experience - is struggling.
Intensive care specialist Deepak Baid, who runs a private hospital in north Mumbai, volunteered to help at a state-run medical facility, Rajawadi Hospital.
But though it is only equipped to handle patients with moderate symptoms, doctors there routinely end up treating critically ill people, Baid said.
Even clinicians specialising in fields like dermatology or orthopaedics are being hit with caseloads of patients they are not qualified to treat.
"We can't send (patients) to other better-equipped hospitals because they have no beds and so we do what we can," he told AFP.
"The system is under a lot of pressure, it's exploding," he said.
Flimsy protective equipment has made sanitation workers fearful of tackling tasks such as changing sheets used by coronavirus patients, Nilima Vaidya-Bhamare, another doctor, told AFP.
'Utterly neglected'
Mumbai has 4,500 beds for coronavirus patients, according to Daksha Shah, a senior health official with the city authority.
"We are expanding capacity all the time," she told AFP, pointing to efforts to build a 1,000-bed field hospital in a commercial hub.
Authorities are also setting up intensive care units inside schools.
But with Mumbai so far registering around 18,000 cases, a fraction of its 18-million-strong population, fears are growing that India's worst-hit city is unprepared for a potential surge.
India spends less than two per cent of its GDP on healthcare.
As of 2017, India had 0.8 doctors per 1,000 people, around the same level as Iraq, according to the World Bank. China has 1.8 per 1,000, and the United States 2.6.
Many of the problems highlighted by the pandemic have been festering for a long time, Vaidya-Bhamare said, from a lack of basic supplies such as soap to overburdened staff.
"I graduated in 1994 and government hospitals were utterly neglected then," she said. "Why does it take a pandemic to wake people up?"
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Džuboks nauka
JetBlue’s Founder Helped Fund A Stanford Study That Said The Coronavirus Wasn’t That Deadly
A Stanford whistleblower complaint alleges that the controversial John Ioannidis study failed to disclose important financial ties and ignored scientists’ concerns that their antibody test was inaccurate.
A highly influential coronavirus antibody study was funded in part by David Neeleman, the JetBlue Airways founder and a vocal proponent of the idea that the pandemic isn’t deadly enough to justify continued lockdowns.
That’s according to a complaint from an anonymous whistleblower, filed with Stanford University last week and obtained by BuzzFeed News, about the study conducted by the famous scientist John Ioannidis and others. The complaint cites dozens of emails, including exchanges with the airline executive while the study was being conducted.
The study — released as a non-peer-reviewed paper, or preprint, on April 17 — made headlines around the world with a dramatic finding: Based on antibodies in thousands of Silicon Valley residents’ blood samples, the number of coronavirus infections was up to 85 times higher than believed. This true infection count was so high that it would drive down the virus’s local fatality rate to 0.12%–0.2% — far closer to the known death rate for the flu.
Almost immediately, the study became a flashpoint in the increasingly politicized debate over whether and how to reopen the economy. Although many scientists assailed its methods, leading the authors to post a revision nearly two weeks later, it was trumpeted by conservative media to support a growing theory: that fears of the coronavirus are overblown.
“Most of the population has minimal risk, in the range of dying while you’re driving from home to work and back,” Ioannidis said on the Fox News show Life, Liberty & Levin, a few days after the study’s release.
But Ioannidis and his coauthors did not disclose that the study was funded in part by Neeleman. “Concern that the authors were affected by a severe conflict of interest is unavoidable,” states the complaint, which was submitted to Stanford’s research compliance office by an anonymous whistleblower involved with the research.
And emails cited within the complaint also suggest that the study’s authors disregarded warnings raised by two Stanford professors who tried to verify the accuracy of the antibody test used. The pair of scientists ultimately refused to put their names on the study because, they told the lead researchers, they could not stand by the test results. The complaint suggests that Neeleman “potentially used financial incentives to secure cooperation from” one of these scientists, who told colleagues by email that she was “alarmed” by aspects of the antibody test’s performance.
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al smo ispravili krivu, horizontala koja asimptotski tezi beskonacnosti
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Дакле, волео бих да се ЈСД Партизан угаси, али не и да сви (или било који) гробар умре.
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Bolnice u Mumbaju (bivšem Bombaju) se raspadaju na 1‰ registrovanih zaraženih u odnosu na broj stanovnika tog grada (18k na 18M).
to je 0,1%
to je 0,1%
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Tako je, 1 promil je isto što i 0,1 posto.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
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rumbeando wrote:Tako je, 1 promil je isto što i 0,1 posto.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
Џаба, реч промил је буквално непозната у енглеском. Каже се "једна десетина од једног процента" (one tenth of one percent), нема краће. Нисам чуо "тачка један" или "нула тачка један", јок, увек само та дугачка формулација. Није јасно ни мени.
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electric pencil sharpener is useless, electric pencils don't need to be sharpened at all
И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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To i piše u članku, koji sam linkovao umesto onog na srpskom samo zato što ima prikazan veliki znak za promil na desnoj strani.
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Izašla je u časopisu The Lancet Infectious Diseases studija prvog nemačkog klastera u firmi Webasto u Minhenu koja s velikom verovatnoćom potvrđuje prenos virusa pre prvih simptoma. Evo i zanimljivosti: jedna osoba se po svoj prilici zarazila tako što je zatražila slanik od osobe s kojom je u kantini ostalo vreme sedela leđa u leđa.
Opis studije još iz doba dok nije urađen peer review dostupan je ovde:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-defences-i/pass-the-salt-the-minute-details-that-helped-germany-build-virus-defences-idUSKCN21R1DB
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1473-3099(20)30314-5Patient 5 did not meet patient 0 but did meet patient 4 on Jan 22. Their only encounter was a canteen visit, sitting back to back, when patient 5 turned to patient 4 to borrow the salt shaker from their table. The encounter was 2 days before symptom onset in patient 4. Presymptomatic transmission from patient 4 to patient 5 is strongly supported by virus sequence analysis (table 2): a nonsynonymous nucleotide polymorphism (a G6446A substitution) was found in the virus from patients 4 and 5 onwards but not in any cases detected before this point (patients 1–3).
Opis studije još iz doba dok nije urađen peer review dostupan je ovde:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-defences-i/pass-the-salt-the-minute-details-that-helped-germany-build-virus-defences-idUSKCN21R1DB
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Nova nada - Lama!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/16/llama-coronavirus-antibodies-study-benefits
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/16/llama-coronavirus-antibodies-study-benefits
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https://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/drustvo/aktuelno.290.html:865341-Ponovo-otvaraju-vec-zatvorenu-kovid-bolnicu-Za-dva-dana-52-nova-slucaja-u-VranjuSamo za dva dana 15. i 16. maja u Vranju je potvrđen kovid kod 52 osobe, zbog hospitalizacije pacijenata nužno je ponovno otvaranje kovid bolnice u zgradi Hirurgije koja je privremeno zatvorena 30. marta, potvrdio je za Novosti gradonačelnik Vranja dr Slobodan Milenković.
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Novooboleli su uglavnom radnici jedne privatne fabrike nameštaja, članovi njihovih porodica i kontakti. Kod četiri osobe dijagnostifikovana je upala pluća u početnoj fazi dok su ostali pacijenti sa blažom kliničkom slikom.
Po jučerašnjem pregledu raspodele novozaraženih u Vranju ima 0 novih slučajeva, a po prekjučerašnjem 5.
Izvor su Excel fajlovi koji se mogu preuzeti na sledećem linku...
https://covid19.data.gov.rs/infected
...tako što se klikne na XLS ikonu nakon što se dole klizačem podesi odgovarajući datum.
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114/6526
То би требало да је видљив скок отварања.
То би требало да је видљив скок отварања.
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Video sam i ja da direktni linkovi na Excel fajlove koje sam prvobitno objavio ne rade (očigledno je link za svakog korisnika različit) pa sam ispravio poruku.
Excel fajl za željeni dan se svakako može preuzeti na linku...
https://covid19.data.gov.rs/infected
...tako što se klikne na XLS ikonu nakon što se dole klizačem podesi odgovarajući datum.
Dakle, ostaje da vidimo koliko će Vranje imati danas kad objave današnju zvaničnu geografsku raspodelu.
Excel fajl za željeni dan se svakako može preuzeti na linku...
https://covid19.data.gov.rs/infected
...tako što se klikne na XLS ikonu nakon što se dole klizačem podesi odgovarajući datum.
Dakle, ostaje da vidimo koliko će Vranje imati danas kad objave današnju zvaničnu geografsku raspodelu.
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Sotir wrote:114/6526
То би требало да је видљив скок отварања.
Pod hitno moraju da se uvedu maske
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udri korono!
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THE space age is upon us. Rockets are leaving our globe at
speeds unheard of only a few years ago, to orbit earth, moon, and
sun. People have visited the moon, we have sent space probes to
all but one of the planets, and words like "orbit" and "satellite" are
picked up by children in the nursery.
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Mór Thököly wrote:Sotir wrote:114/6526
То би требало да је видљив скок отварања.
Pod hitno moraju da se uvesu maske
ne smemo sad da se pokolebamo zbog stotinjak zaraženih