Virus

Thousands of people to attend protests across the US in the coming days, as a right-wing movement against stay-at-home orders, backed by wealthy conservative groups, Fox News and promoted by Donald Trump, continues to take hold. https://t.co/qiFugb1TFo

— Neil Drewitt (@neildrewitt) April 18, 2020

Trump cheers as anti-lockdown protests spread https://t.co/P3IEfb5lup

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MNE wrote:

Mór Thököly wrote:

Upravo je zaustavljamo po celom svetu

više bih rekao usporavamo, koliko će to usporavanje dati pozitivnog efekta na kraju tek ćemo da vidimo

+ ne treba to gledati iz perspektive kao da je ovo zadnji virus, biće ih još

Margit Savović wrote:Kako me nervira Karapandža na tviteru... Poslednje što je izbacio je da će CFR konvergirati ka 6%.

Jyrki Juhani Järvilehto wrote:Nikad nećemo biti spremni za nešto masovno. Pribavićemo hiljade respiratora ali će faliti stotine buldožera ako recimo udari zemljotres ili čamci za slučaj velikih poplava

Erzsébet Biszak wrote:sledeće katastrofe su suša skakavci i nedostatak hrane.

Talason wrote:Mislim da niste u pravu, ovde se ne radi uopšte o broju respiratora ili o spremnosti zdravstvenih sistema pojedinih zemalja. Širenje virusa je posledica veka u kome živimo i stila života. Mi smo jednom za svagda promenili salesforce i više facetime ne postoji, sada su to touchpoints. Hvaljen Isus, više niko ne očekuje da putujemo. Bićemo kao na planeti opisanoj u golom suncu, blaženopočivšeg, HIV inficiranog Asimova.

Mór Thököly wrote:

Erzsébet Biszak wrote:sledeće katastrofe su suša skakavci i nedostatak hrane.

Da, mnoge zemlje ce imati problem sa hranom jer to je strateska stvar i zemlje ce debelo ekonomisati sa izvozom iste u narednom periodu. Tj vec su pocele.

Halászlé wrote:meni je zanimljivo da Karapandža veruje da bi mogao da izračuna do kada karantin treba da traje, samo kada bi imao sve podatke o broju respiratora i kreveta u intenzivnoj nezi.

kada su poznate bolesti u pitanju, laici obično nisu toliko hrabri u procenama koje u potpunosti nadilaze njihovu stručnost, ali ovo je nov virus i na delu je Dunning-Kruger u punom sjaju.

ne znam samo kako ne razume da mu nedostaju gotovo svi inputi pošto prethodnih epidemija nije bilo a ova se ni izdaleka nije završila.

паће wrote:

Mór Thököly wrote:


Da, mnoge zemlje ce imati problem sa hranom jer to je strateska stvar i zemlje ce debelo ekonomisati sa izvozom iste u narednom periodu. Tj vec su pocele.

Биће занимљиво кад се испостави да је обрадиво земљиште већ у страним рукама.

Halászlé wrote:meni je zanimljivo da Karapandža veruje da bi mogao da izračuna do kada karantin treba da traje, samo kada bi imao sve podatke o broju respiratora i kreveta u intenzivnoj nezi.

kada su poznate bolesti u pitanju, laici obično nisu toliko hrabri u procenama koje u potpunosti nadilaze njihovu stručnost, ali ovo je nov virus i na delu je Dunning-Kruger u punom sjaju.

ne znam samo kako ne razume da mu nedostaju gotovo svi inputi pošto prethodnih epidemija nije bilo a ova se ni izdaleka nije završila.

Mladen Sokolovic
15 ч. ·
I have to vent. There seems to be underway this ill thought out rush to get things back to normal ASAP. I understand the toll this economic cataclysm has on peoples lives and livelihoods, but I also get to witness firsthand how the virus ravages patients in front of me daily, young and old, with no treatment we throw it’s way working. We lost 3 patients in less than 24 hours- in their 40s, 50s and 60s. Ventilator, pressors, dialysis, rotoprone, hydroxychloroqine, convalescent plasma- you name it, we’ve tried it, and still nothing works. Even patients who do get better transiently, later slowly deteriorate and ultimately succumb as we watch in desperation, powerless. In addition, all these patients die completely alone, surrounded with masked, faceless strangers and monotonous beeping of ICU machinery. It’s heartbreaking to their families. It also takes a huge toll on nurses, respiratory therapists and doctors taking care of them. It is indescribably sad. With that in mind , the only way to get back to some semblance of normal safely is to have reliable testing strategy and some effective treatment for those who become seriously ill. The tests we have currently have a false negative rate of close to 30% (for you regular folks out there this means that 3 out of 10 times you test someone who is truly infected, the test will falsely state they aren’t infected). Additionally, almost 50 % of those infected have no symptoms whatsoever ! You can imagine now someone who feels “fine” AND has a negative test result to foot, how much obligation to exercise precautions that individual will feel ? Until there are more precise tests to detect the virus; tests to detect meaningful antibodies and titres required for protection; and until there is some kind of effective treatment for the most seriously ill, this push to get things back to normal may still backfire spectacularly. You might have yet another economic downturn if bodies start piling up again. This process of getting back to normal has to be slow, cautious, with everyone doing their part to distance even when they go back “into the world”; all the while furiously working on tests and treatments.

Dr. Mladen Sokolovic is a Pulmonary Disease Specialist in Austin, Texas. He graduated with honors in 2002. Having more than 18 years of diverse experiences, especially in PULMONARY DISEASE, Dr. Mladen Sokolovic affiliates with many hospitals including St David's South Austin Medical Center, Round Rock Medical Center, North Austin Medical Center, cooperates with many other doctors and specialists in medical group Austin Pulmonary Consultants Pa.

You might have yet another economic downturn if bodies start piling up again

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