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    Nektivni Ugnelj

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:58 pm

    Uh...Nista, nadam se da Wells Fargo maši bar 2%
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:20 pm

    Da podsetim da su to efekti samo ovog talasa. Ako bude udario u sezonu jesen/zimu, što je sasvim moguće, i ove brojke će biti prevaziđene.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:23 pm

    Medjutim, takodje, ako ne bude 2.talasa oporavak bi verovatno morao da bude brzi nego 2008/9

    Ako bude 2.talasa ovakvog ili slicnog...bice haos
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    Post by disident Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:26 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:Medjutim, takodje, ako ne bude 2.talasa oporavak bi verovatno morao da bude brzi nego 2008/9

    Ako bude 2.talasa ovakvog ili slicnog...bice haos


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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:23 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:Medjutim, takodje, ako ne bude 2.talasa oporavak bi verovatno morao da bude brzi nego 2008/9

    Ako bude 2.talasa ovakvog ili slicnog...bice haos

    I ja bih pomislio, ali...

    WSJ danas



    U.S. Economy Faces Projected 10-Year Recovery From Coronavirus Effects


    Surveys of purchasing managers in U.S., Asia and Europe offer some hope that decline in factory activity is starting to bottom out

    The U.S. economy could take the better part of a decade to fully recover from the coronavirus pandemic and related shutdowns, a U.S. budget agency said, as a series of surveys pointed to continuing weakness in global manufacturing.

    The Congressional Budget Office, a nonpartisan legislative agency, said the sharp contraction triggered by the coronavirus caused it to mark down its 2020-30 forecast for U.S. economic output by a cumulative $7.9 trillion, or 3% of gross domestic product, relative to its January projections. GDP isn’t expected to catch up to the previously forecast level until the fourth quarter of 2029, the CBO added.

    The roughly $3.3 trillion in stimulus programs enacted by Congress since March will only “partially mitigate the deterioration in economic conditions,” the CBO said.

    After you get the initial bounce of economic activity simply from removing the lockdowns, I think what we’ll see is an economy that is running at a level of activity notably below where we were prior to Covid,” said Michelle Meyer, chief U.S. economist at BofA Merrill Lynch. “It’s going to take a long time to heal. There will be scars as a result of such a painful shock of the economy.”

    The CBO analysis came as new surveys showed that factories in the U.S. and abroad continued to reduce output and shed jobs in May, though the pace of deterioration moderated as governments moved to ease coronavirus-related restrictions on their economies.

    Surveys of purchasing managers at manufacturers in the U.S., Asia and Europe offered signs that the decline in global factory activity is starting to bottom out after the record fall seen in April. But sentiment remained negative, suggesting any recovery in the months ahead could be tentative.

    The U.S. Institute for Supply Management’s manufacturing index for May rose to 43.1 from an 11-year low of 41.5 in April. The index’s core components all remained well below the 50 level that marks the threshold between contraction and expansion. A majority of survey respondents said both production and new orders worsened in May from April, and two-fifths reported lower employment levels.

    The factory indexes add to other signs the U.S. and other countries may have reached an economic bottom, though recoveries could be slow. Unemployment is up sharply across the globe. Services industries, hit particularly hard by the virus, are just starting to recover. And consumer spending, an important catalyst for the U.S. and other economies, remains weak.

    “We’re probably past the worst in terms of rates of decline, but things are still quite bad,” said Joshua Shapiro, chief U.S. economist at Maria Fiorini Ramirez Inc. He said forward-looking aspects of the ISM survey are still “extremely weak,” The CBO now expects U.S. GDP to be 5.6% smaller in the fourth quarter of 2020 than a year earlier, a sizable markdown from its 2020 projection of 2.2% growth made at the end of 2019 before the pandemic.

    While the economy is expected to resume growing after this year, the pace of growth likely won’t be fast enough to quickly make up for the ground lost during the coronavirus pandemic. The difference between the CBO’s latest projection for GDP and its January forecast “roughly disappears by 2030,” adjusted for inflation.

    The outlook for weak manufacturing is one factor weighing on the ability of global economies to turn around.

    Tim Fiore, who manages the ISM’s factory survey, said he expects further improvement in June as state governments allow more nonessential economic activities to resume. But until a vaccine or an effective treatment for Covid-19 becomes available, social-distancing efforts will limit the number of workers allowed on factory floors, likely restraining production.

    Only in China, the first major economy to begin reopening after the novel coronavirus outbreak, did factories report an increase in activity. But the surveys suggested that its nascent economic recovery is already beginning to stall, with export orders falling sharply amid continued global efforts to contain the pandemic.

    The surveys indicate the worst might be over for manufacturers, and activity could start to increase in coming months. But the road back to the levels of output and employment seen at the end of last year is set to be long and bumpy.

    Whether growth can achieve any serious momentum remains highly uncertain, however, as demand looks set to remain subdued by social-distancing measures, high unemployment and falling corporate profits for some time to come,” said Chris Williamson, chief business economist at IHS Markit, the data firm that compiles most of the surveys outside the U.S.

    In many countries, factory managers reported that restrictions on movement continue to make it difficult for them to operate at normal levels of output. But they also reported that weak demand is holding them back, with new orders continuing to fall.
    In a sign that factories don’t expect conditions to improve rapidly, many reported further job cuts. In India and South Korea, those reductions in payrolls were the largest on record.

    One problem highlighted by the surveys is that even where local restrictions have been removed, or were never very severe to begin with, the return to normality is being impeded by weak export demand.

    China—the first country exposed to the virus—entered lockdown earlier than other countries. It also exited its lockdown earlier, but May surveys of purchasing managers pointed to a large decline in export orders.

    That was also true of South Korea, which chose not to impose mandatory lockdowns and focused instead on widespread testing and tracing of those infected by the virus, and the people with whom they had come into contact.

    Separate figures released on Monday showed South Korea’s May exports were down 23.7% from a year earlier to $34.86 billion following the prior month’s revised 25.1% contraction.

    China’s Caixin general manufacturing purchasing managers index rose to 50.7 from 49.4, a sign that manufacturing activity increased after having fallen in April. A reading above 50.0 indicates an increase in activity, while a reading below that level indicates a decrease.

    However, other manufacturing powerhouses continued to experience deep declines. Germany’s PMI rose only slightly, to 36.6 from 34.5, while Japan’s PMI fell to 38.4 from 41.9.


    Across the eurozone, Italy moved closest to a manufacturing recovery, as its PMI rose to 45.4 from 31.1.
    According to the CPB Netherlands Bureau for Economic Policy Analysis, global industrial production was 4.2% lower in the first three months of the year than in the final quarter of 2019. The surveys of purchasing managers suggest the decline in the three months through June might be even larger.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/decline-in-factory-output-eased-in-may-but-recovery-set-to-be-slow-11591006623
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:03 pm

    Da, ne izgleda dobro, uopste. Mada mislim da cemo prve dobre procene dobiti tek kad Corona ostane jasno iza nas. Ovo sad je sve na štakama, ljudi se plaše (veliki broj) i dalje.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:20 pm

    The World Health Organization struggled to get needed information from China during critical early days of the coronavirus pandemic, according to recordings of internal meetings that contradict the organisation’s public praise of Beijing’s response to the outbreak.


    The recordings, obtained by the Associated Press (AP), show officials complaining in meetings during the week of 6 January that Beijing was not sharing data needed to evaluate the risk of the virus to the rest of the world. It was not until 20 January that China confirmed [url=x-gu://item/mobile.guardianapis.com/us/items/world/2020/jan/20/coronavirus-spreads-to-beijing-as-china-confirms-new-cases]coronavirus was contagious[/url] and 30 January that the WHO declared a global emergency.


    “We’re going on very minimal information,” said Maria Van Kerkhove, an epidemiologist and the WHO technical lead for Covid-19, according to the AP. “It’s clearly not enough for you to do proper planning.”
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    Post by паће Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:06 am

    А и умиљати момци без смисла за хумор ће сад да се смање, ево пише овде...

    6. Travelers should put loose items in carry-on bags rather than in bins. Keeping items such as keys and phones out of the bins will “reduce touch-points during the screening process,” TSA says.

    Те ће тако да ипак праве гужву, упркос испумпаним путницима (спомиње неку смањену запремину путника), али... биће још спорије и компликованије него пре.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:13 pm

    A former head of MI6 has said he believes the coronavirus pandemic "started as an accident" when the virus escaped from a laboratory in China. 
    In an interview with The Telegraph, Sir Richard Dearlove said he had seen an "important" new scientific report suggesting the virus did not emerge naturally but was man-made by Chinese scientists.

    The apparent discovery will raise the prospect of China paying "reparations" for the death and economic catastrophe wreaked upon the world, the former intelligence chief said. It comes as Beijing faces growing pressure to explain precisely how coronavirus first began to spread late last year.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/03/exclusive-coronavirus-began-accident-disease-escaped-chinese/
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    Post by beatakeshi Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:46 pm

    Dearlove - kao iz Crnog Guje.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:17 pm

    Virus izpasažirao iz laba.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:09 pm

    Pobego u bade mantilu
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    Post by Sotir Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:31 pm

    Ово је онај рад прво траже паре јер је шатро вештачки вирус. Сад кад је јасно да није, онда мора да им је процурео, дај бар неку пару.
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:50 pm

    Samo umesto zemlja porekla Kina upisi zemlja porekla SAD, i razmisli sta bi rekao da se sve to sto se dogodilo sa virusom u Kini dogodilo u Americi.... pojavio se virus na pijaci blizu laboratorije koja je nesto petljala sa virusima. Mislim, to bi bio game over za celu svetsku javnost, nema tu dal' je bio vestacki virus ili je bio prirodni pa pobegao, svi bi stali u red da traze odgovornost (a i pare) od Amerike.

    I kad je vec tako (a jeste), sto je pa sad cudno da tako Amerikanci razmisljaju vizavi Kineza?


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    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Erős Pista Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:00 pm

    beatakeshi wrote:Dearlove - kao iz Crnog Guje.


    Jel bio sef na onog Kristofera Stila ili taj bese iz MI5?


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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:23 pm

    Stil je bio MI6.
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    Post by паће Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:36 am

    Штоно рекао генерал Вор, "и нека дође онај, слабо памтим имена... број 2 или 3, како беше".


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:24 am

    Nista posebno, al da pribelezimo

    https://www.ipac.global/
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    Post by паће Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:11 am

    Наравно, прво сам прочитао "међупланетарни савез на Кину".


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    Post by Guest Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:00 pm

    Yes, America Is in a Cold War With China

    Some lessons from the Soviet era apply: Seek bipartisan consensus and allies, and avoid armed conflict.

    By Mike Gallagher
    June 7, 2020 12:51 pm ET  


    A new cold war is heating up between the U.S. and China, but America’s public intellectuals are more interested in fighting about whether to call this confrontation a “new cold war.”

    The phrase has been in the lexicon for a while. Historian (and Journal columnist) Walter Russell Mead has deployed it many times since Vice President Mike Pence’s 2018 speech at the Hudson Institute, then the most comprehensive articulation of the Trump administration’s approach to China. Author Robert Kaplan argued in January 2019 that a new cold war had started between the U.S. and China. Later that year historian Niall Ferguson said “Cold War II” had begun. Henry Kissinger has also warned that “we are in the foothills of a cold war.”

    China has pushed back. Two weeks ago Foreign Minister Wang Yi accused “U.S. political forces” of pushing the two countries to “the brink of so-called new cold war.” Almost daily a Chinese Communist Party apparatchik accuses American officials of “Cold War thinking” or “summoning the ghosts of McCarthyism,” to take two recent examples. Last month Max Baucus, a former U.S. senator and ambassador to China, echoed these talking points on both CNN International and Chinese state television, comparing President Trump to Joseph McCarthy and, yes, Hitler.

    More measured objections to the new-cold-war language have come from observers such as Robert Zoellick, a former World Bank president, and Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations. They and others are concerned that the phrase will either give the Chinese Communist Party a propaganda victory or create a self-fulling prophecy.

    Like it or not, the new cold war is a reality. Better to acknowledge it than to hope for an elusive, cooperative relationship. New cold warriors aren’t trying to reanimate the original Cold War. Most obviously, Communist China isn’t the Soviet Union. Communist China is a more formidable economic rival to the U.S. than Soviet Russia ever was, and America and China are more deeply connected than the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. were. America and the Soviet Union occasionally sought economic integration as a means of de-escalation. But American national security now demands some form of economic breakup with China, at least in certain industries.

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    Yet lessons from the Cold War apply. For example, though a cottage industry calls for “Sputnik Moments” to galvanize new “Manhattan Projects” or “Marshall Plans” to keep up with China’s investments in things like artificial intelligence, cyber and quantum computing, it seems prudent to invest in research and development of new technologies and aggressively work to restore a posture of deterrence in cyberspace. The “bipartisan foreign-policy consensus” of the Cold War is romanticized and exaggerated, but there seems to be some cross-party agreement on confronting the Communist Party. Joe Biden and Mr. Trump are attacking each other for being weak on China. Progressives are joining hawkish Republicans in criticizing the Communist Party’s human rights abuses of Uighur Muslims.

    Finally, calling it a new cold war is a good reminder to avoid armed conflict. The new cold war should stay cold. Neither America nor China wants a conventional, let alone a nuclear, war. Dwight Eisenhower’s advice rings true: The one and only way to win this war is to prevent it. The free world must continue to embrace a defensive strategy, one that seeks to hold the line, and to deter the Chinese Communist Party by denying it dominance over the Indo-Pacific region.

    Holding the line and deterring war will require more investments in hard power. But America must also compete in the “gray zone,” leveraging allies and liberal values to wage ideological warfare and ensure countries don’t embrace the Communist Party’s authoritarian model. America can win without getting dragged into conflict and without becoming a garrison state. Again to borrow from Eisenhower, who in 1957 said the goal is “to wage the Cold War in a militant, but reasonable, style whereby we appeal to the people of the world as a better group to hang with than the Communists.”

    There’s always a risk of getting carried away, as politicians stumble over each other to stake out ever more hawkish positions on China. I have some personal experience that is relevant: McCarthy is from the district I represent in Congress, and he’s buried in my district. I’m the second Marine intelligence officer to be elected to Congress from Wisconsin. McCarthy was the first.

    Yet even McCarthy’s excesses illustrate what is perhaps most remarkable about the Cold War: America messed up often, yet still succeeded. In this respect, “Cold War thinking” connotes a capacity for self-correction and an ability to learn from mistakes. That is something to be celebrated. For too long the U.S. has looked the other way as the Chinese Communist Party has waged a new cold war against the American order. We can deny that hard reality and lose, or confront it and win.

    Mr. Gallagher, a Republican, represents Wisconsin’s Eighth Congressional District.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/yes-america-is-in-a-cold-war-with-china-11591548706?mod=hp_opin_pos_1
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:42 pm

    China has been accused by Brussels of running disinformation campaigns inside the European Union, as the bloc set out a plan to tackle a “huge wave” of false facts about the coronavirus pandemic. 


    The European commission said Russia and China were running “targeted influence operations and disinformation campaigns in the EU, its neighbourhood, and globally”. While the charge against Russia has been levelled on many occasions, this is the first time the EU executive has publicly named China as a source of disinformation. 


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    Post by Sotir Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:47 pm

    Cold War 3

    Између СССР - а и империјалистичких сила је између светских ратова такође био један непријатељски однос, који је паузиран током ДСР. Кад је настављен је настала кованица Хладни рат, иако је практично то био наставак претходног стања.
    Тако да би ово практично био 3. Хладни рат.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:02 pm

    Students at Harbin Institute of Technology and Harbin Engineering University recently discovered that they can no longer access MATLAB, a widely used coding language for technical computing, with their college accounts (Source: TMT Post). In an email to affected students, MathWorks, the company that developed MATLAB, wrote that they are “prohibited from providing technical or customer support” to the two institutions “due to recent U.S. government regulations.”

    What’s the story?

    In May, the U.S. Department of Commerce added Harbin Institute of Technology (HIT) and Harbin Engineering University to the “Entity List” as institutions that posed a risk of procuring items for military end-use in China (Source: U.S. Department of Commerce). The U.S. government sees any transaction between U.S. companies and entities on the list as a red flag. Citing this policy as the reason, MathWorks has suspended its service for the two universities and de-activated the students’ accounts (Source: Zhihu).
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:04 pm

    Nema veze etički, nego je prosto - glupo
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:11 pm

    Pa ne znam baš da li je "glupo" pravi izraz za udarac na naučna istraživanja u drugoj velesili.

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