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    Post by kondo Sat May 23, 2020 12:08 am

    meni je posle svega problem što nemamo nikakvo stečeno znanje u odnosu na minus tri meseca - samo peri ruke nosi masku izbegavaj kontakt. da čak ni nemamo preferencu koja vrsta državnog uređenja ovde radi posao, da li je to diktatorski centralizam tipa kine ili srbije ili common sense liberalizam tipa nemačke slovačke hrvatske. za sve postoji opozit koji ruši teoriju.

    zapravo se divim rumbeandu na upornosti da utovaruje more postova i podataka uprkos ovolikom moru međusobno poništavajućih iskustava.

    korekcija, znamo da nema imuniteta, OK.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat May 23, 2020 12:44 am

    Marius Lăcătuș wrote:meni je posle svega problem što nemamo nikakvo stečeno znanje u odnosu na minus tri meseca - samo peri ruke nosi masku izbegavaj kontakt. da čak ni nemamo preferencu koja vrsta državnog uređenja ovde radi posao, da li je to diktatorski centralizam tipa kine ili srbije ili common sense liberalizam tipa nemačke slovačke hrvatske. za sve postoji opozit koji ruši teoriju.

    izgleda da najvise radi posao the likes of Koreja (J), Tajvan i tako to. A to je problem, posto je to za ove prostore 22. vek.
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    Post by kondo Sat May 23, 2020 12:46 am

    I to su autokratije, doduše upakovane u konzumerizam koji ih omekšava. Znači mora tako.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat May 23, 2020 12:48 am

    Pa ne, to je nesto sto na ovim prostorima ne bi moglo sve i da bukvalno svi sednemo i dogovorimo se da ocemo bas to. to je prosto ovde nemoguce, milion preduslova ne postoji.
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    Post by Јанош Винету Sat May 23, 2020 12:56 am

    Нама највише ради посао Словачка.


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    Post by MNE Sat May 23, 2020 11:30 pm

    nadam se da su ovo dvoje dovoljno autoriteti

    Sunetra Gupta, Professor of Theoretical Epidemiology at the University of Oxford


    Professor Karol Sikora, the Founding Dean and Professor of Medicine at
    the University of Buckingham Medical School and an ex-director of the WHO Cancer Programme.







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    Post by rumbeando Sat May 23, 2020 11:44 pm

    MNE wrote:nadam se da su ovo dvoje dovoljno autoriteti

    Nadaj se. Ova prva se već "dokazala" u martu kad je tvrdila da je možda čak pola Britanije preležalo koronavirus, diskutovali smo o toj nazovi studiji s potpuno idiotskom polaznom pretpostavkom ovde svojevremeno.

    24.3.2020.
    The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford.

    If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study.
    https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

    Za one koji nisu ispratili, u Britanci su 21. maja objavili da je u Londonu preležalo 17%, a u ostatku Britanije svega 5%.

    Speaking during today’s daily Downing Street press briefing, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the government’s antibody surveillance study has shown that 17% of people in London and around 5% or more of the population in the rest of the country have tested positive for antibodies.
    https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/21/17-londoners-5-rest-uk-have-coronavirus-antibodies-12739901/

    Za drugog me mrzi da tražim, ali ne sumnjam da je u pitanju sličan pacijent, čim ga ti linkuješ.

    EDIT: Jeste, evo njegovih stavova iz opisa klipa:

    – The serology results around the world (and forthcoming in Britain) don’t necessarily reveal the percentage of people who have had the disease
    – He estimates 25-30% of the UK population has had Covid-19, and higher in the group that is most susceptible
    ...
    – Evidence on masks is just not there either way so it should be an ‘individual decision’
    – We should move to 1m social distancing which means restaurants and bars could reopen

    Dakle, ovi idioti guslaju svoju priču unedogled, naučni dokazi i metodi ih uopšte ne zanimaju, sad više ni serološke studije za koje su mesecima insistirali da će potvrditi njihove prazne priče ne valjaju.
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    Post by Guest Mon May 25, 2020 3:46 pm

    Annual German Ambassadors’ Conference 2020: Opening remarks by High Representative/ Vice President Josep Borrell


    ...
    Allow me to briefly state how dramatically our world is changing.

    Perhaps the best way is to see COVID-19 as the great accelerator of history. It strengthens trends that were already present before.  

    First, we live in a leaderless world where Asia will be increasingly important - in economic, security and technological terms. Analysts have long talked about the end of an American-led system and the arrival of an Asian century. This is now happening in front of our eyes.  

    If the 21st century turns out to be an Asian century, as the 20th was an American one, the pandemic may well be remembered as the turning point of this process.

    Demand for multilateral cooperation has never been greater. But supply is falling behind. This is the first major crisis in decades where the US is not leading the international response. Maybe they don’t care, but everywhere we look we see increasing rivalries, especially between the US and China.

    The pressure to choose sides is growing. As EU, we should follow our own interests and values and avoid being instrumentalised by one or the other.

    US-China rivalry is also having a major, often paralysing effect on the multilateral system: in the UN Security Council, the G20, the WHO and elsewhere, there are many more disagreements and vetoes and fewer agreements.

    Second, the world is becoming more digital, but also more state-driven. The key questions will be: who will control the digital networks? And who will set the rules and standards?

    Third, our globalisation model is under pressure. We need a more strategic approach to managing vulnerabilities and dependencies.

    And last, the world risks becoming less free, less prosperous, more unequal, more fragmented. You diplomats will have a lot work!

    Democracy and respect for human rights – our political model – are contested. Some are not shy in exploiting these dynamics. In the digital domain and elsewhere, there is a real battle of narratives going on.

    We see all these trends playing out in our immediate neighbourhood.

    Beginning with the Western Balkans where we must sustain our commitment to bring the region into the EU.

    Handling relations with Turkey, in all their complexities, will be a big priority in the coming months.

    Libya is the test of EU credibility, right at our doorstep. We have seen the absurd situation of fighters wearing masks to protect themselves against COVID, while exchanging fire with machine guns.

    ...

    Further south, African countries are especially vulnerable to the impact of the pandemic; UN Secretary-General Guteress was warning us about this some days ago. This is doubly true for the Sahel, where challenges converge, including climate change and extremism.

    To the east, we must support Ukraine and strengthen ties with all Eastern Partners for sure.

    But we also need a frank discussion on how to handle a Russia that feels emboldened to challenge important common European security interests. We need to have a selective engagement with Russia on the issues that matter to us. This is not contradictory with being firm. We need a smart balance between firmness and sanctions with Russia with a careful attempt at engagement in selective areas.

    We should remember that in energy there is mutual dependency, which I don’t have to remember you of, in Germany. We need to buy gas, but they need to sell. So let’s invest in reaching a better understanding among us where each of us comes from and how we can build trust to move forward together.

    China is getting more powerful and assertive and its rise is impressive and triggers respect, but also many questions and fears. As you know, it is fashionable to say that we are reaching a Thucydides moment. Let’s hope not!

    I have said it: our relations must be based on trust, transparency and reciprocity. This is not always the case today. We only have a chance if we deal with China with collective discipline. And we hope that the Leipzig EU-China Summit scheduled in autumn will be very important in this regard. Also on that, we rely on you.

    We need a more robust strategy for China, which also requires better relations with the rest of democratic Asia. That’s why we must invest more in working with India, Japan, South Korea et cetera.

    To face all these challenges we need to build a real common strategic culture. We do not have it yet and this weakens our action. The need to act as a Team Europe, or as ‘Europe United’, as my friend Heiko has called it, is greater than ever.

    But our ambitions are only credible if we back them with a sense of shared ownership and responsibility among Member States. There seems to be less trust and common ground among us, right when we need it most.

    Too often, we are unable to reach a consensus because Member States cling to their national viewpoints instead of understanding that there is a broader common interest. Reaching no compromise at all hurts everyone.

    An EU response – even if it is imperfect in the eyes of some Member States – is often better than a deafening silence.

    We also need the resources to be effective.

    If you want an EU foreign policy that gets results, we all need to invest in it. Politically, but also financially.

    We count on Germany to play its full role as Presidency to help reach an ambitious result for the recovery, the next European budget and a wider re-launch of our European project.
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    Post by Јанош Винету Mon May 25, 2020 4:19 pm

    Па ово је сјајно, само ако наставе да ово доследно примењују и почну да стоје иза својих речи. Прича се о овоме већ 30 година, о заједничкој ЕУ војсци, о брањењу интереса ЕУ, о већој интеграцији и вањској политици ЕУ, па ништа.

    Не могу да се договоре око међусобног, интра-ЕУ фонда за помоћ државама погођеним корона вирусом, а камо ли да се супротставе америчкој антируској политици. Шта са НАТОм и америчким базама по целој ЕУ? Морају или да се реше НАТОа или да створе систем паралелан и комплементаран НАТОу, а то подразумева климање главе на америчку политику према Русији.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon May 25, 2020 4:46 pm

    Rusi nemaju sta da lajkuju u ovom govoru
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon May 25, 2020 4:49 pm

    Tj, da preciziram - Putin nema sta da lajkuje u ovom govoru
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    Post by Јанош Винету Mon May 25, 2020 5:01 pm

    But we also need a frank discussion on how to handle a Russia that feels emboldened to challenge important common European security interests. We need to have a selective engagement with Russia on the issues that matter to us. This is not contradictory with being firm. We need a smart balance between firmness and sanctions with Russia with a careful attempt at engagement in selective areas.

    We should remember that in energy there is mutual dependency, which I don’t have to remember you of, in Germany. We need to buy gas, but they need to sell. So let’s invest in reaching a better understanding among us where each of us comes from and how we can build trust to move forward together.

    Отприлике се слажем, ово је доста тврд став према Русији.

    Селективне санкције према Русији, без сарадње са њима на привредном нивоу, него само да узимамо од њих гас, као и да нађемо воље и начина да их казнимо за мешање у ”европске безбедносне интересе”.

    Путину није у интересу да буде остракизован и виђен као диктатор, она замена са Медведевим је била позитивна ствар, али те маске су одавно пале. Развој руске привреде и технолошки напредак у сарадњи са Западом је завршио у блатишту. Остаје им само да буду црпна станица за гас, што је једна врло поразна перспектива.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 27, 2020 11:37 am

    https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/bleak-preliminary-history-of-2020s-by-yanis-varoufakis-2020-05
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    Post by Guest Wed May 27, 2020 6:36 pm

    WASHINGTON—The State Department has officially determined that Hong Kong is no longer autonomous from China, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a statement Thursday that holds implications for the future of economic ties and could lead to sanctions against China.

    The State Department is required by the Hong Kong Policy Act to assess the autonomy of the territory from China. It certified to Congress on Thursday that Hong Kong is no longer autonomous.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed May 27, 2020 6:38 pm

    Dal će uopšte stići do Tajvana...
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed May 27, 2020 8:53 pm

    S tim u vezi

    The Times

    China must prepare for war as coronavirus recedes, President Xi has said as relations between Washington and Beijing plummet.

    His remarks followed a warning by the defence minister that confrontation between China and the United States had “entered a high-risk period”. Disputes between the countries include Beijing’s crackdown on dissent in Hong Kong, where it is trying to impose a national security law that has drawn protests.

    “We must explore ways to train and to prepare for war when epidemic control efforts are getting normalised,” Mr Xi said. “We must hasten to step up preparations for armed warfare, carry out real-combat military training with flexibility, and to comprehensively enhance our army’s abilities to perform military missions.”


    Guardian

    At a separate meeting on the sidelines of the the National People’s Congress, the defence minister, General Wei Fenghe, said:“The US has intensified the suppression and containment of our side since the [coronavirus] outbreak, and the Sino-US strategic confrontation has entered a period of high risk.”
    “We must strengthen our fighting spirit, be daring to fight and be good at fighting, and use fighting to promote stability.”

    Bonus

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/27/china-and-india-move-troops-as-border-tensions-escalate
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    Post by Guest Wed May 27, 2020 9:01 pm

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed May 27, 2020 10:03 pm

    Ne, ovo je knjiški primer kako se ulazi u krizu. Svakako, retko ko je lud da želi neku katastrofu. No, podižu se ulozi (ovo je rana faza, naravno) i onda ili se desi da se neko preračuna at some point ili su ulozi toliko podignuti da je "silazak" komplikovan, a odstupanje preskupo.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 27, 2020 11:40 pm

    China's Biggest Base Has Huge Replicas Of Taiwan's Presidential Building And The Eiffel Tower

    Through satellite images, we explore China's premier large-scale training site that has some ominous and bizarre features.

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    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/33591/chinas-biggest-base-has-huge-replicas-of-taiwans-presidential-building-and-the-eiffel-tower
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    Post by Јанош Винету Thu May 28, 2020 4:13 pm

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    Post by kapetanm Fri May 29, 2020 8:54 pm

    Čitao sam slični SF.
    https://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyyy=2020&mm=05&dd=29&nav_id=1689330
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    Post by Nino Quincampoix Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:41 am

    Procena francuskog ministra finansija: GDP -11% ove godine.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:01 am

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:18 pm

    -8%...koliko je bese palo 2008/9?
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    Post by rumbeando Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:31 pm

    -4,3
    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/tec00115/default/table?lang=en

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