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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:00 pm

    nisam branio njihov model ali sam koristio njihove usluge. sad je s tim gotovo.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:20 pm

    Gargantua wrote:


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    Post by kondo Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:43 pm

    najkasnije do kraja meseca ovi retardi moraju da izadju sa novim ekonomskim merama zastite radnika inace ce se korona ovde siriti na mitinzima protiv drustvene nepravde.

    drzava mora da preuzme odgovornost - zamrzne plate ili garantuje minimalac, ukine SVE poreze i doprinose na dohotke kao i da zabrani otkaze tokom vanrednog stanja ili barem na 2 meseca. do kraja prva 2 meseca cemo vec znati da li cela zemlja ide u kurac i stampaju pare ili nekako jasu.

    i cela javna uprava na minimalac sem lekara. odmah.


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    Post by beatakeshi Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:52 pm

    +1.
    Prilično sam siguran da ništa od toga neće učiniti.
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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:10 pm

    Kondo wrote:najkasnije do kraja meseca ovi retardi moraju da izadju sa novim ekonomskim merama zastite radnika inace ce se korona ovde siriti na mitinzima protiv drustvene nepravde.

    drzava mora da preuzme odgovornost - zamrzne plate ili garantuje minimalac, ukine SVE poreze i doprinose na dohotke kao i da zabrani otkaze tokom vanrednog stanja ili barem na 2 meseca. do kraja prva 2 meseca cemo vec znati da li cela zemlja ide u kurac i stampaju pare ili nekako jasu.

    i cela javna uprava na minimalac sem lekara. odmah.

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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:22 pm

    Pažljivijim posmatračima će se narednih meseci otkriti da srpske vlasti (združeno) mogu da kontrolišu/podstaknu samo manji komad ovdašnje ekonomije, u smislu efekta.

    Moći će da doštampaju dinare (uz inflaciju) ili da spiče deo deviznih rezervi, kao pravno fiksiraju neke stvari pa se bave posledicama kasnije, tako nešto.

    Sirova ratna ekonomija.
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    Post by beatakeshi Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:24 pm

    Pri tom će morati da daju direktno iz svog džepa, ono što su već ošacovali da maznu.
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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:35 pm

    Za ove razmere to što oni imaju je bušan kurton.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:36 pm

    beatakeshi wrote:Pri tom će morati da daju direktno iz svog džepa, ono što su već ošacovali da maznu.

    Ovo su mnogo vece pare u pitanju od par stotina miliona evra
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    Post by lalinea Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:41 pm

    Ovde ima o ekonomskim merama koje je vlada Swiss upravo objavila:https://twitter.com/CoronaEnglish


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    Post by Guest Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:38 pm

    WSJ


    Mr. Kasman’s current predictions are representative. He expects U.S. gross domestic product will fall by 1.8% this year. Before the outbreak, he had projected output to grow 1.5%. That would translate into $700 billion in lost output. Beyond those losses, “the rise in public-sector debt and destruction of human, and possibly physical, capital is important,” he said.

    The economy, Mr. Kasman believes, will lose between 7 million and 8 million jobs this spring, though some of those will likely come back if, as he expects, the economy rebounds in the second half of the year.

    Sung Won Sohn, a business economist at Loyola Marymount University, expects the coronavirus to cost $592 billion in output, after inflation, and a loss of nearly 5.2 million jobs in 2020, compared with his pre-virus forecast.

    Goldman Sachs projects U.S. output to fall 3.1% this year and unemployment to soar to 9% from the current 3.5%. Unemployment last peaked at 10% in October 2009, after the housing and financial collapse.
    Economists at Goldman estimate that U.S. jobless claims—a proxy for layoffs—increased by roughly 2 million just this week.

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    The pessimistic scenario, according to the Journal survey, would be a sharp and long-lasting contraction. The median pessimistic forecast sees GDP decreasing by 10% in the second quarter, falling another 3.8% in the third quarter and dropping 0.5% in the fourth quarter. It projects the unemployment rate climbing continuously, reaching about 7.4% by the end of the year.

    Job losses, under this scenario, could approach 800,000 a month in the second quarter, followed by 300,000 a month in the third quarter and 40,000 a month in the fourth quarter.

    By comparison, in the fourth quarter of 2008, the most severe quarter of the last recession, GDP fell at an annualized rate of 8.8% with job losses reaching around 800,000 for several consecutive months. In total, the economy lost more than 8 million jobs in the recession that began in December 2007. The unemployment rate climbed from 4.4% in 2007 to a peak of 10% in 2009.

    One important difference may be whom the downturn hurts this time around. Rajeev Dhawan, director of the Economic Forecasting Center at Georgia State University, said the recession in 2008 killed jobs across all industries, from construction and manufacturing to banking and law.

    This time, he expects the job losses to be heavily concentrated in several industries: restaurants, hotels, airlines and real estate. He expects the laid-off workers to be concentrated in jobs with below-average earnings. He believes the economy could lose six million jobs in the coming months and eight million by year-end.

    The good news, Mr. Kasman said, is that unlike the 2007-09 downturn, the economy will likely rebound quickly if the government can slow the spread of the disease and lower the death rate. “I don’t think the economy is fundamentally imbalanced or at a fragile position at this point,” Mr. Kasman said. “I don’t think it has to play out like 2008, 2009 where you had most longer-lasting problems unwound.”
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:30 pm

    Ja bih voleo da su oni u pravu. Cak i ovi "pesimisti". Ni to mi ne izgleda tolko lose s obzirom na tip udara
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:36 pm

    Grci će primati 800 evra mesečno dok traje pandemija korona virusa: Smanjuje se PDV, a biće manje i kirije

    Državnu naknadu od po 800 evra dobiće 500.000 zaposlenih u grčkim preduzećima koja su od 15. marta do kraja aprila obustavila rad na osnovu odluka Vlade Grčke o sanitarnim merama zbog pandemije korona virusa.

    Isti iznos dobiće i samozaposleni i samostalni preduzetnici, ali i svi koji rade u malim porodičnim preduzećima.

    premijer Kirijakos Micotakis upozorio da preduzetnici ne bi trebalo da zaposlene otpuštaju nepotrebno i neopravdano i da će se to smatrati zloupotrebom.

    Ukazano je da su sve mere podrške poslovanju u vreme krize zbog novog korona virusa neraskidivo povezane s očuvanjem radnih mesta i upozoreno da preduzeća koja ipak budu otpuštala zaposlene neće moći da koriste povoljne mere podrške. Takvo otpuštanje zaposlenih smatraće se pravno nevažećim.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:40 pm

    Pa sad nasi nek gledaju. A ovo je jos objavljeno u Srbija Danas. I ovo ne radi Syriza
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:50 pm

    European Union commission to suspend budget rules. The executive moved to formalise an agreement reached by EU finance ministers to suspend budget rules that put limits on borrowing so that governments have a free hand in fighting the coronavirus.
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    Post by MNE Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:55 pm

    odakle Grcima 400 miliona eura mjesečno za uhljebe i to uz smanjeni PDV?
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    Post by Guest Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:57 pm

    Mi smo pametni, mi se klonimo tih mrljavih grupacija i uzdamo se u se i u svoje kljuse.
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    Post by Guest Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:10 pm

    MNE wrote:odakle Grcima 400 miliona eura mjesečno za uhljebe i to uz smanjeni PDV?

    од туризма јебо га ти
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    Post by паће Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:14 pm

    Talason wrote:
    MNE wrote:odakle Grcima 400 miliona eura mjesečno za uhljebe i to uz smanjeni PDV?

    од туризма јебо га ти

    А улети нешто и од бродовља, а?


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:35 pm

    Gargantua wrote:Mi smo pametni, mi se klonimo tih mrljavih grupacija i uzdamo se u se i u svoje kljuse.

    Kinezi su braća, oni para imaju sasvim dovoljno da za ljubav slijepca, sina takodjer slijepca udijele bez okolišanja kakvu prvu pomoć sa devet ili bar osam ništica.
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    Post by MNE Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:29 pm

    Talason wrote:
    MNE wrote:odakle Grcima 400 miliona eura mjesečno za uhljebe i to uz smanjeni PDV?

    од туризма јебо га ти
    da baš će biti navalica ove godine na mikonos...
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    Post by disident Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:33 pm

    KinderLad wrote:
    Gargantua wrote:Mi smo pametni, mi se klonimo tih mrljavih grupacija i uzdamo se u se i u svoje kljuse.

    Kinezi su braća, oni para imaju sasvim dovoljno da za ljubav slijepca, sina takodjer slijepca udijele bez okolišanja kakvu prvu pomoć sa devet ili bar osam ništica.
    Džabe nule, džepovi funkcionera su rupa bez dna.


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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:14 pm

    The U.S. economy is deteriorating more quickly than was expected just days ago as extraordinary measures designed to curb the coronavirus keep 84 million Americans penned in their homes and cause the near-total shutdown of most businesses. …

    The resulting economic meltdown, which is sending several million workers streaming into the unemployment line, is outpacing the federal government’s efforts to respond. As the Senate on Friday raced to complete work on a financial rescue package, the White House and key lawmakers were dramatically expanding its scope, pushing the legislation far beyond the original $1 trillion price tag. …

    Next week, the Labor Department will likely report that roughly 3 million Americans have filed first-time claims for unemployment assistance, more than four times the record high set in the depths of the 1982 recession, according to Bank of America Merrill Lynch. That is just the start of a surge that could send the jobless rate spiking to 20 percent from today’s 3.5 percent, a JPMorgan Chase economist told clients on a conference call Friday.


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    Post by zvezda je zivot Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:07 pm

    el ima nekih optimisticnih prognoza? sve na sta ja nailazim su katastroficarski scenariji, mozda se u takvim krugovima krecem. npr:







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