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    Post by Guest Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:32 pm

    To je valjda objavio Čolović u "XX veku".


    Na stranu što je svako insistiranje na tome da se zna kako i ko je ubio Murata od starta bazirano na izmišljotinama i voluntarističkom učitavanju.
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    Post by ćaća Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:40 pm

    Čolović je hteo da se srpskoj naučnoj i inoj javnosti predoči i drugačija percepcija kosovskog mita, što je ok i što pozdravljam. Problem je u tome što se knjiga ne bavi time već upravo dokazivanjem da je vojska koja se suprotstavila Osmanlijama bila većinski albanska i da je Obilić bio Albanac, a sve zasnovano na jednoj porodičnoj hronici koja je nastala nekih 150 godina posle bitke.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:42 pm

    Kad kradu konje, što ne bi krali i istoriju.


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    Post by MNE Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:01 pm

    ćaća wrote:Čolović je hteo da se srpskoj naučnoj i inoj javnosti predoči i drugačija percepcija kosovskog mita, što je ok i što pozdravljam. Problem je u tome što se knjiga ne bavi time već upravo dokazivanjem da je vojska koja se suprotstavila Osmanlijama bila većinski albanska i da je Obilić bio Albanac, a sve zasnovano na jednoj porodičnoj hronici koja je nastala nekih 150 godina posle bitke.
    aman tad nacije nisu bile ni blizu definisane kao danas, pa evo pola Kuča se i danas broji u Albance a pola u Srbe, a od istih su, neki su od Vujoša postali Vujošaj neki Vujošević, od Iveza imaš Ivezaj i Iveziće, i tako manje više za svako prezime Đokaj Đokić Stanaj Stanić Vuljaj Vulević itd.

    etnogeneza je dosta zamršena a pogotovo na Balkanu
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    Post by ćaća Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:07 pm

    Lol znam da je etnogeneza zamršena i da to nisu moderne nacije, ali su u XIV veku i Srbi i Albanci postojali kao nadplemenski konstrukti, ma koliko nedovršeni.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:34 pm

    Ma to je na nivou ko kad bi sad neko dokazivao da su Skenderbegu i otac i majka bili Sloveni, da ne kazem Srbi. Sve i da jesu, to nikakve veze s bilo čim nema. To je sumanuta tema za razgovor iole ozbiljnih ljudi da se iz toga izvlace neki dalekosezni zakljucci.
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    Post by ficfiric Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:04 pm

    Hmm, a to sto je Karadjordje Albanac, to nista?


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    Post by beatakeshi Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:31 pm

    Dobra platforma za ujedinjenje svih šiptarskih zemalja - Kosova, Albanije i Srbije.
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:58 am

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    Post by ćaća Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:06 am

    lol
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    Post by Janko Suvar Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:09 am

    jel Kosovan - srbijanski?


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    Post by MNE Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:47 am

    "malo sam jela govna al mi je bilo slatko"
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:51 am

    apropo marije ratkovic ona ono brani i cecu i taj rad. mislim dosledna je. DISCLAIMER: dua lipa nije isto sto i ceca.


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    Post by Јанош Винету Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:59 am

    Ко би била албанска Цеца?
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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:53 am

    majka nacije: fatima sokoli
    najvise lici na (mladu) cecu: fatmire brecani
    krimi veze: stvarno ne znam


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    i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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    Post by Guest Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:03 pm

    Daï Djakman Faré wrote:majka nacije: fatima sokoli
    najvise lici na (mladu) cecu: fatmire brecani
    krimi veze: stvarno ne znam

    auuu, pa obriši nalog kad to ne znaš
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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:11 pm

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    Post by beatakeshi Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:20 pm

    Pa zar nije Ana Oxa?
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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:30 pm

    uf, koliko nisam cuo za to ime. topos iz 1980-ih koji danas jos samo ti vrtis po glavi na konto svoje italofilije Kosovo* - Page 26 3579118792

    nisam ni znao da je albanka.


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    Post by Erős Pista Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:49 pm

    Brate, Fare, ne brukaj se.


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    Post by Guest Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:52 pm

    Uuuuu ovo nisam očekivao, ove ponore neznanja
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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:02 pm

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    Post by boomer crook Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:03 pm

    bacio si se u ambis ignorancije.


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    Post by 1088 Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:04 pm

    krajem februara 1999. godine, manje od mesec dana pre početka bombardovanja srbije, ana oksa je na san remu pobedila s pesmom koja se zove bez milosti. nikad nisam verovao da je to slučajnost. Kosovo* - Page 26 1844795956

    jedan odličan radijski singl. i poslednja pesma koju pamtim sa ovog kultnog festivala.

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