Labour source tells me the PM's statement was the first Jeremy Corbyn heard of the offer to sit down for talks.
— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) April 2, 2019
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Treba na finjaka da je odjebe a da to ne izgleda tako. Ako ume
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Corbyn is 'happy' to meet May to discuss BrexitThe Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, has said he is “very happy” to meet Theresa Mayafter she offered to sit down with him to agree a plan which allows the UK toleave the EU with a deal.
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European Research Group chairman Jacob Rees-Mogg has described Prime Minister Theresa May's plan to extend Article 50 and hold talks with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn as "deeply unsatisfactory"
— Sky News Breaking (@SkyNewsBreak) April 2, 2019
cabinet source suggests 14 ministers today were AGAINST PM’s idea of asking for another extension, with 10 backing it
— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) April 2, 2019
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So if she cannot reach Brexit compromise with
@jeremycorbyn
“we will have to reach out around him
"Pocepala sam svoju stranku, e vala cu i vasu"
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2. 2 big probs - will Labour be genuine and can they trust them? A lot of doubt in Cabinet tonight, and as ever, will Tory party implode - always been hypothetically possible May could get deal thro with cross party votes, then not been able to govern afterwards
— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) April 2, 2019
4. What is however, finally clear, (in as much as anything ever stays the same in this story) the PM has chosen moving to softer Brexit rather than leaving without a deal - even tho for a LONG time she legitimised that as an option to please the party
— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) April 2, 2019
Konzerve će sad verovatno pokušati da smene sopstvenu premijerku u parlamentu s obzirom da joj je juče 170 poslanika pisalo da hoće Bregzit bez daljeg odlaganja, tj. u suštini bez dogovora.
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Ali Corbyn daleko od toga da je bez problema. Postoji ogroman broj Laburista, mozda i izmedju 150 i 200 koji zele CM2.0/Norway+, a mnogi i 2ndRef. Hocu da kazem da je u stvari prilicna manjina kod Laburista zadovoljna samo sa CU, pogotovu da se to samo napise u onoj Politickoj deklaraciji koja sustinski ne obavezuje nijednu buducu vlast.
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rumbeando wrote:
Konzerve će sad verovatno pokušati da smene sopstvenu premijerku u parlamentu s obzirom da joj je juče 170 poslanika pisalo da hoće Bregzit bez daljeg odlaganja, tj. u suštini bez dogovora.
ne pratim ovaj svinjac dovoljno detaljno samo mi recite da li ova pomenuta ekipa koja je za no deal u fazonu "ne moze nam niko nista jaci smo od sudbine".....
ja i dalje ne veruem da ova EU moze da ispadne kao pobednik protiv bilo koga ko se ne zove grcka
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Kondo wrote:rumbeando wrote:
Konzerve će sad verovatno pokušati da smene sopstvenu premijerku u parlamentu s obzirom da joj je juče 170 poslanika pisalo da hoće Bregzit bez daljeg odlaganja, tj. u suštini bez dogovora.
ne pratim ovaj svinjac dovoljno detaljno samo mi recite da li ova pomenuta ekipa koja je za no deal u fazonu "ne moze nam niko nista jaci smo od sudbine".....
ja i dalje ne veruem da ova EU moze da ispadne kao pobednik protiv bilo koga ko se ne zove grcka
Apsolutno.
Inace, sto se tice sposobnosti EU, Ivan Rogers je to odlicno objasnio - EU strateska vizija - 0 ALI na nivou pregovora majstori - zato sto su od svega napravili 1 legal process. Tako da to uopste nisu "pregovori". Sto im je Varufakis lepo objasnio jos na pocetku, ali su oni bili u fazonu stakojkurac znate vi ko smo mi, dva sata pregovora u Berlinu i gotovo. pola veka su bili u EU i ne znaju kako funkcionise. Some achievement.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/02/i-fear-for-brexit-erg-dismayed-by-may-plan-to-talk-to-corbynMore than 60 MPs and peers who support the European Research Group (ERG) gathered in committee room 15 of the House of Commons to watch the announcement on Tuesday night.
One member said they let out a collective gasp when the prime minister said she would invite Labour’s leader into No 10 for talks.
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Former party leader Iain Duncan Smith told the Guardian: “I fear for Brexit. I am utterly puzzled as to why at this particular point we have handed control to a man who is not fit to run a whelk stall.
“Jeremy Corbyn is a man who would reduce the UK to an adjunct of Venezuela ... Brexit will end as a hotchpotch. It has left me completely floundering as to what the purpose of this was.”
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As the meeting broke up, Jacob Rees-Mogg, the ERG’s chair, criticised the prime minister for planning to collaborate with “a known Marxist” and said the move would lose Tory votes.
“You do find that leaders who decide to go with the opposition rather than their own party find their own party doesn’t plainly follow. I’m not sure this is the way to conciliate people to persuade them if they haven’t moved already to move at this stage. I think getting the support of a known Marxist is not likely to instil confidence in Conservatives.”
Asked if he would support any form of call for no confidence in the prime minister, Rees-Mogg said he would not try to oust May again, having failed in an attempt in December.
Evo kako je po Gardijanu (a i neki drugi mediji donose slične napise) izgledala sednica vlade:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/02/theresa-may-calls-for-talks-with-jeremy-corbyn-in-bid-to-save-brexitCabinet sources say the seven hours of meetings in Downing Street were at times fractious and bad tempered. It is understood that 14 ministers, including Liz Truss, Andrea Leadsom and Gavin Williamson, opposed a long extension to leaving the EU and 10 were in favour, including chancellor Philip Hammond, who made the case for a second referendum.
Williamson asked the prime minister directly how long a Brexit extension she would be willing to accept, but she declined to answer, cabinet sources said.
One cabinet source said a particularly tense moment came when Claire Perry, the climate change minister, “went on a rant” about rightwingers changing the direction of Brexit policy and Geoffrey Cox, the attorney general, “bellowed from the other end of the table” that such language was unhelpful, forcing May to intervene.
One cabinet remainer described Tuesday’s shift as a significant step towards a softer Brexit, and “a triumph of fact over wishful thinking” – but warned that it is unclear whether May’s decision will survive the furious backlash that is likely to ensue in her own party.
Cox, whose evidence that the UK risked being trapped in the Irish backstop indefinitely helped sink May’s deal at the second meaningful vote, urged her to make concessions to Corbyn in order to win a majority.
He spoke after several ministers had argued against any further extension to article 50, and said the government had to shift its position.
“He said, give Labour whatever they want to get it over the line,” said one cabinet source. In what was described by two sources as one of the key moments in the day-long negotiations, Michael Gove, who chaired the Vote Leave campaign, strongly agreed.
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He said, give Labour whatever they want to get it over the line
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Drama absurda, nadrealizam, dada im nisu ravni.KinderLad wrote:He said, give Labour whatever they want to get it over the line
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May has kicked her Brexit can firmly into Corbyn's face
Sick of seeing the Tory party tearing itself apart, May is now getting Labour in on the act
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/02/may-has-kicked-her-brexit-can-firmly-into-corbyns-face
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Иначе, гледам ово, и причу о скандалима око потплаћивања за уписе на престижне колеџе у Америци. Тај сталеж је у Америци свега неколико генерација стар.
Могу да замислим како је било у Средњем веку са племством, кад су имали за собом десетине још горих генерација...
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И кажем себи у сну, еј бре коњу па ти ни немаш озвучење, имаш оне две кутијице око монитора, видећеш кад се пробудиш...
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На крају ипак ћемо морати да признамо да је Филип био исувише милостив у својим идејама...Gargantua wrote:Lek je raskulačivanje, jbg.
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паће wrote:Ако се не варам, реч сноб је скраћеница од сине нобилитате, без племства, што је била ознака за студентарију/боемлук/пијандуре по универзитетским градовима а која је имала само паре, не и ћагу. Да се некако разликују од оних са ћагом, то су урезивали на врата својих просторија.
Varaš se.
Online Etymology Dictionary kaže sledeće:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/snob#etymonline_v_23782snob (n.)
1781, "a shoemaker, a shoemaker's apprentice," of unknown origin. It came to be used in Cambridge University slang c. 1796, often contemptuously, for "townsman, local merchant," and passed then into literary use, where by 1831 it was being used for "person of the ordinary or lower classes." Meaning "person who vulgarly apes his social superiors" is by 1843, popularized 1848 by William Thackeray's "Book of Snobs." The meaning later broadened to include those who insist on their gentility, in addition to those who merely aspire to it, and by 1911 the word had its main modern sense of "one who despises those considered inferior in rank, attainment, or taste." Inverted snob is from 1909.
A Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary sledeće:
Folk etymology connects the word with Latin sine nobilitate ‘without nobility’ but the first recorded sense has no connection with this.
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Gargantua wrote:Lek je raskulačivanje, jbg.