a future to believe in

Sotir wrote:

KinderLad wrote:S druge strane, i jedina bitna "komunisticka" zemlja danasnjice, u kojoj je taj sistem nesumnjivo dao rezultate, takodje funkcionise pa principu statistike, odnosno i nema govora o tome da je pravedan prema svima vec samo o tome da i dalje proizvodi veliku socijalnu pokretljivost, sto je pozitivno, ali to je nesto drugo

Пракса је показала да можеш да имаш прилично бруталне системе (видети под Филипенко), уколико постоји одређени бољитак за друштво у целини током дужег временског периода, не само да ће репресија моћи да им прође, већ ће га се (преживели) сећати и са сетом.
Демократија и слободе су мање привлачни од концепта да ће сутра стварно бити боље.

KinderLad wrote:

Sotir wrote:

Пракса је показала да можеш да имаш прилично бруталне системе (видети под Филипенко), уколико постоји одређени бољитак за друштво у целини током дужег временског периода, не само да ће репресија моћи да им прође, већ ће га се (преживели) сећати и са сетом.
Демократија и слободе су мање привлачни од концепта да ће сутра стварно бити боље.

ovako čisto teorijski, "na suvo", to je tačno. Ali kad se stavi u konkretan kontekst tj vremensko-prostorni okvir onda je svaki slučaj priča za sebe tj uvek tu učestvuje još faktora.

ontheotherhand wrote:
Konvencionalno oružje i drugi neoružani načini ratovanja su mnogo napredovali i postali efikasni od poslednje upotrebe nuklearki tako da nema potrebe za njima.

ontheotherhand wrote:

KinderLad wrote:Problem je samo sto opcija da sve ode tri lepe pa ce iz toga nesto da proizadje vise nije na stolu. Jer danas ako sve ode u tri lepe posle toga uglavnom vise nece biti nicega. To je razlika u odnosu na celokupnu ljucku istoriju do nuklearnog doba.

Neće niko bacati nuklearke jer zna se šta sledi posle, osim u slučaju nekog totalnog AI-infested ludila. Čak i da druga strana ne odgovori radioaktivni oblaci ovima mogu da se vrate.
Konvencionalno oružje i drugi neoružani načini ratovanja su mnogo napredovali i postali efikasni od poslednje upotrebe nuklearki tako da nema potrebe za njima.

паће wrote:
Атомка прави трошкове па банкротира власника. Није се џабе причало да Амор има совјетско држављанство: наоружан, а гологуз.

ontheotherhand wrote:Samo postojanje nuklearnog oružja je game changer, sprečava da se sile pokolju kako su inače znale, inače već odavno ne bismo pisali ovde.

I kako bre komunizam Kindere, to ime je samo fasada. Što kaže Mesečina, levi i desni otklon od iste ose.

ontheotherhand wrote:

паће wrote:
Атомка прави трошкове па банкротира власника. Није се џабе причало да Амор има совјетско држављанство: наоружан, а гологуз.

Ko ti je Amor?

Remember, as you listen to this clown, this has been *the* voice of moral aspiration among mainstream Democrats for the last quarter-century. Some day, I will write that essay or that book on Aaron Sorkin as the most important hack of the age, but until then, listen to this. https://t.co/vfCPFPVoDv

— corey robin (@CoreyRobin) 20. јануар 2019.

William Murderface wrote:Može na više topika, ali aj ovde. Ceo niz.

Remember, as you listen to this clown, this has been *the* voice of moral aspiration among mainstream Democrats for the last quarter-century. Some day, I will write that essay or that book on Aaron Sorkin as the most important hack of the age, but until then, listen to this. https://t.co/vfCPFPVoDv

— corey robin (@CoreyRobin) 20. јануар 2019.

Billionaire chief executive Michael Dell reacted Jan. 23 to a proposal put forth by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) to tax millionaires.

When billionaire chief executive Michael Dell was asked on Wednesday whether he would support a proposal put forth by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) to tax millionaires at a 70 percent tax rate on income exceeding $10 million, the audience for a Davos panel about tech and global inequality burst into laughter before he could answer.

Dell, founder and head of Dell Technologies, first responded by saying he’s more comfortable allocating significant resources through his private foundation than handing over that money to the government. But then he answered more directly.

"No, I am not supportive of that, and I don’t think it would help the growth of the U.S. economy,” he said in response to questions from The Washington Post.

When Dell was asked to explain why he thinks that, he said, “Name a country where that’s worked — ever.”

Co-panelist and MIT professor Erik Brynjolfsson jumped in to offer an answer: “the United States.”

“I don’t have a strong opinion on that proposal. The devil is in the details,” Brynjolfsson, the director of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Initiative on the Digital Economy, said. “But there is actually a lot of economics that suggests that it’s not necessarily going to hurt growth, and I think we have to examine it more closely.”

“Seventy percent taxes definitely bothers me,” said Scott Minerd, chief investment officer of Guggenheim Partners. “It affects the people that have the most money, and they will start allocating capital in a way that is less efficient and will bring down productivity.”

Still, executives acknowledged that populist sentiment is rising and is likely to play a big role in the 2020 presidential campaign.

Ocasio-Cortez wasn’t at Davos, but her name was mentioned frequently, highlighting her role as a new political force whose ideas have reverberated in Washington and beyond.

"If you think about where we were in 2015 and the ideas that were being floated by then candidate Trump, they seemed pretty far out there. Now we’re living them,” Minerd said. “I think by the time we get to the election, modern monetary theory and 70 percent tax rates will be on the table.”
Billionaire investor Ray Dalio said on a panel Tuesday that he thinks there will be even more calls for higher taxes as the economy slows in the coming months and the 2020 campaign ramps up. “Something like the talk of 70 percent income tax, for example, will play a greater role” in the discussion, he said.

Djamolidine Abdoujaparov wrote:

Billionaire chief executive Michael Dell reacted Jan. 23 to a proposal put forth by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) to tax millionaires.

When billionaire chief executive Michael Dell was asked on Wednesday whether he would support a proposal put forth by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) to tax millionaires at a 70 percent tax rate on income exceeding $10 million, the audience for a Davos panel about tech and global inequality burst into laughter before he could answer.

Dell, founder and head of Dell Technologies, first responded by saying he’s more comfortable allocating significant resources through his private foundation than handing over that money to the government. But then he answered more directly.

"No, I am not supportive of that, and I don’t think it would help the growth of the U.S. economy,” he said in response to questions from The Washington Post.

When Dell was asked to explain why he thinks that, he said, “Name a country where that’s worked — ever.”

Co-panelist and MIT professor Erik Brynjolfsson jumped in to offer an answer: “the United States.”

Amid laughter, Dell founder Michael Dell explains why he would’t support Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s call for a higher marginal tax rate on people earning over $10 million: “I’m not supportive of that and I don’t think it would help the growth of the US economy.” pic.twitter.com/0KqeFLQUjB

— CNN (@CNN) January 23, 2019

Spoiler:

WASHINGTON—Three years after fighting a surprisingly competitive Democratic primary race against Hillary Clinton, Sen. Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent, is making another run for the White House.

Two sources with direct knowledge of his plans told Yahoo News that Sanders, an independent and self-described “democratic socialist,” plans to announce his presidential bid imminently. While Sanders has been considering a bid for months, one of the sources said he was emboldened by early polls of the race that have consistently showed him as one of the top candidates in a crowded Democratic primary field. In particular, the source said Sanders was heartened to see numbers indicating he is one of the leading candidates among African American and Latino voters, two groups he was perceived as struggling with in 2016.

The source also alluded to a spate of recent polls that show Sanders as the most popular politician in the country. They attributed Sanders’ strength in the polls to the base and name recognition he built with the prior presidential bid.

“What the senator has this time that he didn’t have last time is he is the most popular elected official in the country right now,” the source said. “That’s light years away from 2016, when very few people knew who he was.”

A third source said Sanders’ bid will begin with an exploratory committee. Sanders’ campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment for this story.

In addition to these two sources, a former Sanders staffer who had not been briefed on the imminent announcement plans nevertheless said many recent signs suggest he is set to pull the trigger on a presidential campaign. Specifically, the former staffer said Sanders has been building out the infrastructure he would need for a White House bid.

“He’s already talking to staff and there are people he’s hiring. They’re nailing down contracts with vendors. … All the movement is there for him to run,” the ex-staffer said.

“What the senator has this time that he didn’t have last time is he is the most popular elected official in the country right now,” the source said. “That’s light years away from 2016, when very few people knew who he was.”