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Gargantua wrote:imho, poenta teksta je da okolnosti koje su držale balkan ovakvim kakav je zadnjih 20+ godina u suštini više ne stoje, da su ušle u gibanje koje nije baš jasno na šta će da izađe ali se prošlo neće vratiti. mislim da je precizno pogodio francuske i američke kalkulacije, i složeni efekat bregzita. 

ovo za sukobe mi je onako, bazirano na logici da je nacionalistički refleks prvi, pa iz toga ko zna šta može da sledi. teza o neizbežnom sukobu ne mora biti tačna, ali je mislim tačno ono što je važnije, krovna dinamika. 

implicitno pitanje teksta je šta će odavde biti odigrano u datom kontekstu a da nije ratoborni nacionalizam.

Macron urges reform of ‘bizarre’ system for EU hopefuls

French leader rules out membership talks with Albania but seems to leave chink of light for North Macedonia.

By RYM MOMTAZ AND ANDREW GRAY 10/16/19, 10:25 PM CET Updated 10/17/19, 5:33 AM CET


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Some EU diplomats suspect Macron of using the issue of EU enlargement as leverage to win concessions in other policy areas. But, at a joint news conference with Merkel in the French city of Toulouse, Macron insisted the accession process needs fundamental change.

Macron sought to make a comparison with a shared house to illustrate his point that the EU needs to reform.

He made clear he could not accept opening talks with Albania at this stage but seemed to leave some room for maneuver on North Macedonia.

"I think we have to reform this procedure, which is at the moment irreversible, not progressive and has not adapted," he said. "We do things that are bizarre … We give visa liberalization, the right to move freely between our countries, before we even open the negotiations."

Macron cited the example of Albania, whose citizens can travel to France without a visa, although it has not begun EU membership talks.

“It’s bizarre, as a type of relationship,” he said.

He asked how he could tell the French people that "everything’s going so well that we’re going to open negotiations” with Albania, when "thousands and thousands and thousands" of Albanians ask for asylum in France.

Macron insisted he wants to send a positive signal to leaders of North Macedonia and Albania for their efforts to improve the rule of law and democratic standards in recent years. He said he also agrees with Merkel that the Balkans are of great strategic importance to the EU. But he said things have to be done "in the right order."

"In a spirit of seriousness and given the discussions we've had, this leads me to think that it may be us who has to ask for more time to put things in the right order," he said.

Macron made a comparison with a shared house to illustrate his point that the EU needs to reform before it can contemplate taking in new members.

"Europe is a big and beautiful house, which we live in together," the French leader said.

"A few years ago, a member of the family decided to leave and it's a lot of trouble for them to leave the house. And we sometimes have trouble renovating the house, to repair the lights, the electricity. And by the way, a lot of members, when you ask them, 'Are you ready to invest to repair the lights, to redo the door?' they say, 'No, I'm not ready to invest in this house. Not more than 1 percent.' But the same people sometimes say, 'Even though we don't know how people can leave, or how to renovate, we want to invite in new friends.'"

Although Macron and Merkel sought to play down their differences on enlargement, that remark could be interpreted as a dig at Berlin — which has said it wants contributions to the next long-term EU budget to be no more than 1 percent of gross national income.

Merkel, for her part, said she supports the French call to reform the accession process but noted there is an open question over what conditions North Macedonia and Albania should have to fulfill before they could start talks.

"There are maybe a couple of different nuances on this issue but we'll talk between now and tomorrow about how far we can get toward a common position," Merkel said.

"Everything in the European Council must be decided unanimously so we are obliged — and we've managed it pretty often — to find common positions, and not just between France and Germany."

He made clear he could not accept opening talks with Albania at this stage but seemed to leave some room for maneuver on North Macedonia

Посланик Хасан Улусой категорично е опровергал, че въпросната информация е публикувана от профил, свързан с министъра на отбраната Хулуси Акар Във връзка с публикации в български медии за карта на Република Турция, обхващаща територии и от Република България, поместена във Фейсбук профил, свързан с Хулуси Акар, министър на националната отбрана на Турция, МВнР информира, че още в сряда в ранния следобед публикацията бе докладвана на вицепремиера и министър на външните работи Екатерина Захариева.:

KinderLad wrote:Kakva se dražesna rasprava razvila ispod...

Dear Minister and distinguished Commander. We sacrificed our youth, our lives, our lives for this country, this nation, this flag and our religion. We will continue to sacrifice. We participated in counter-terrorism operations against a number of separatist terrorist organizations. Although you see us as officers, military uniforms and camouflage dresses still have our odor of sweat. I would like to participate in the Peace Spring operation which is currently being carried out. Please put me in arms. I would rather die as a soldier in the Peace Spring operation than die as an officer.

Zuper wrote:Opametile se Osmanlije, nece vise na Srbiju.
Lepo, sada da se dogovorimo pa da podelimo Hemus. Turci(Osmanlije i Bugari) uz Helene u pokusaju a u stvari miks Slovena i ko zna cega, ide Osmanlijama. Uz dobru volju dajemo i Arbanase.
Do Beca, Alpa i Venecije, ide, naravno, Srblju, kako je svevisnji jos 1918 odredio.
Da se konacno sredi situacija na Hemusu-stabilnost i prosperitet.

KinderLad wrote:

#EUCO doorsyep Boyko Borissov : On North Macedonia and Albania: I don't see what is the risk from Macedonia. It is as big as Sofia. Why showing our might against them? But some countries vent their internal problems. pic.twitter.com/V9lK8hnXJx

— Georgi Gotev (@GeorgiGotev) October 17, 2019

rumbeando wrote:

Macron warned on danger of Balkans veto


By ANDREW RETTMAN AND ESZTER ZALAN
BRUSSELS, TODAY, 09:20

France's veto on enlargement will endanger the Serbia-Kosovo peace process, a senior EU official has warned.

It could also prompt the fall of North Macedonia's pro-EU government, Macedonia's prime minister indicated.


But none of that is likely to change French president Emmanuel Macron's mind at the EU summit on Thursday (17 October), diplomats said.

"If all the efforts that North Macedonia has successfully made, if this is not properly rewarded, there is no incentive for Serbia and Kosovo ... to enter into a substantive dialogue about the future coexistence of the two countries, because the only reason to do this is the European perspective," EU enlargement commissioner Johannes Hahn said in Brussels on Wednesday.

He spoke after France, one day earlier, vetoed the opening of accession talks with North Macedonia.

It did so citing the need for Skopje to enact a new law on a public prosecutor and for the EU to reform its accession protocols.

It also did so despite the fact North Macedonia had changed its name and its constitution to fall into line with EU and Greek demands.

That process had seen a backlash by Russia-backed nationalist forces in Macedonia.

A nationalist mob stormed the Macedonian parliament when the process began in 2017, with attackers beating up Zoran Zaev, who was, at the time, in opposition, but who later became its prime minister.

For his part, Zaev, who still bears a scar on his forehead and who met Hahn in the EU capital on Wednesday, also warned that the French veto could have dire consequences.

"If this decision is not reversed ... it will most certainly incite regressive forces in the country and strengthen third parties in the region," he said, referring to Russia.

"These third parties will definitely fill the vacuum [left by the EU]," he said.

Hahn and Zaev both looked to the EU summit on Thursday and Friday for a potential French U-turn.

The hope is that EU Council president Donald Tusk, a strong advocate of enlargement, and German chancellor Angela Merkel, whose diplomats also warned of potential Western Balkan instability on Tuesday, will press Macron to change his mind.

But there was no sign of German pressure on France when Merkel met Macron in the French city of Toulouse on Wednesday.

The two leaders spoke about climate change and joint aviation projects instead in their press briefing.

A German communique also mentioned Iran, Libya, the Sahel, Syria, and Ukraine as issues of common concern, but did not mention the Western Balkans at all.

And EU diplomats, who briefed press in Brussels on Wednesday, held out little hope that Thursday's EU summit, which is, in any case, to be dominated by Brexit, would prompt a French turnaround.

The fact there was a "clear desire" by most EU countries to go ahead on North Macedonia had made no impact on France on Tuesday, one senior EU diplomat told EUobserver.

"I doubt very much that we will have an impact that is any different [at the summit]", the diplomat added.

The French position was a "clear disappointment" to its EU partners, but Paris was "happy not to have anything" positive come out of the Western Balkans talks, a second EU diplomat said.

France had in the past talked big on the EU's need to become a geopolitical actor in the face of Russian revanchism and US retrenchment.

Macron also visited Belgrade in June and warned of "rising tension" in the region.

"We are seeing rising tension and sometimes these tensions are fuelled here and there by external powers [Russia] that have an interest in making sure no deal is found [between Kosovo and Serbia]", Macron said at the time.

But the EU diplomat linked his North Macedonia veto to sour grapes over Germany's role in disqualifying Macron's candidate for EU commissioner by the European Parliament last week.

The diplomat referred to the negative "dynamics" between Berlin and Paris in trying to understand what really lay behind the French decision.

"We didn't like the [French] hypocrisy which took place," at the Western Balkans talks on Tuesday, the diplomat said.

https://euobserver.com/foreign/146302

Bungee jump wrote:

Zuper wrote:Opametile se Osmanlije, nece vise na Srbiju.
Lepo, sada da se dogovorimo pa da podelimo Hemus. Turci(Osmanlije i Bugari) uz Helene u pokusaju a u stvari miks Slovena i ko zna cega, ide Osmanlijama. Uz dobru volju dajemo i Arbanase.
Do Beca, Alpa i Venecije, ide, naravno, Srblju, kako je svevisnji jos 1918 odredio.
Da se konacno sredi situacija na Hemusu-stabilnost i prosperitet.

#Macron rejected the draft that implied the decison on #NorthMacedonia and #Albania would be taken after the adoption of the methodology . It shows that #France is only interested in delaying the process rather than improving it.#EUCO #EUenlargement

— Gjeraqina Tuhina (@gjeraqina) October 18, 2019

rumbeando wrote:I Iran, Gruziju i Jermeniju.

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