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by boomer crook Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:36 pmnavijam za barselonu!
Kataloniji u čast - mogući referendoom
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Za sada velika izlaznost u uporištima protivnika nezavisnosti.
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Do 18h izlaznost 68%, predviđaju da će ići do 80%.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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kako ce onaj madridski despot da pretvori u plebisct o sebi.
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Hubert de Montmirail wrote:Za sada velika izlaznost u uporištima protivnika nezavisnosti.
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biće tesno, uz to da će independisti imati malu većinu, ali će pojedinačno Ciudadanos biti najjači.
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Hubert de Montmirail wrote:biće tesno, uz to da će independisti imati malu većinu, ali će pojedinačno Ciudadanos biti najjači.
Eto, da negde pobedi DJB
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il y a une minuteCatalonia's secessionist parties seen in a position to secure an absolute majority in regional election - Exit poll
http://www.euronews.com/2017/12/21/follow-live-catalonia-votes-in-regional-election
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ako dobro racunam ovo je potpuno otvoreno tj može svašta da bude
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To je jedna anketa, katalonski TV3 je u 8 objavio drugu po kojoj separatisti nemaju većinu (33+26+8=67, većina je 68), ali su opsezi kao i kod gornje takvi da omogućavaju obrnutu situaciju. Zanimljivo je da su je brzom brzinom sklonili sa ekrana i više je ne prikazuju.
Počeli su da pristižu rezultati (zasad naravno beznačajni), TV3 odmah daje i projekciju raspodele mandata independista, unionista i En comu Podema kao neutralne snage:
Izgleda da neće skidati taj semafor s ekrana. U međuvremenu je i TVE počeo da prikazuje raspodelu mandata (po strankama, ne i blokovima) na dnu ekrana uz procenat prebrojanih u gornjem levom uglu.
Linkovi za gledanje:
http://www.ccma.cat/tv3/directe-avancat/tv3/ (uz mogućnost vraćanja 1h unazad)
http://www.ccma.cat/tv3/directe/tv3/
http://www.rtve.es/directo/la-1/ (uz mogućnost vraćanja više sati unazad)
http://www.rtve.es/directo/canal-24h/ (uz mogućnost vraćanja više sati unazad)
Počeli su da pristižu rezultati (zasad naravno beznačajni), TV3 odmah daje i projekciju raspodele mandata independista, unionista i En comu Podema kao neutralne snage:
Izgleda da neće skidati taj semafor s ekrana. U međuvremenu je i TVE počeo da prikazuje raspodelu mandata (po strankama, ne i blokovima) na dnu ekrana uz procenat prebrojanih u gornjem levom uglu.
Linkovi za gledanje:
http://www.ccma.cat/tv3/directe-avancat/tv3/ (uz mogućnost vraćanja 1h unazad)
http://www.ccma.cat/tv3/directe/tv3/
http://www.rtve.es/directo/la-1/ (uz mogućnost vraćanja više sati unazad)
http://www.rtve.es/directo/canal-24h/ (uz mogućnost vraćanja više sati unazad)
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Based on the 8TV/Vanguardia poll, there is very little clarity regarding how the coalitions will manage to govern.
These are some of the different scenarios:
ERC, JxC and CUP grab the majority with 71 seats, putting Catalonia back to where it was before the independence referendum
The problem the secessionists face in this first scenario is that while they have worked together so far, CUP is much more vocal in declaring independence, while its two partners have lowered their tone regarding a unilateral declaration
In a second scenario, the secessionists grab 67 seats, but pro-Spain parties have 62 and neither group can control Congress, elevating Catalunya en Comu as the power-broker
A third option is that Catalunya in Comu, the Podemos-friendly party headed by Barcelona Mayor Ada Colau, manages to convince ERC and PSC to join forces in a new group to make new demands to Madrid, such as organizing a legal independence referendum
These are some of the different scenarios:
ERC, JxC and CUP grab the majority with 71 seats, putting Catalonia back to where it was before the independence referendum
The problem the secessionists face in this first scenario is that while they have worked together so far, CUP is much more vocal in declaring independence, while its two partners have lowered their tone regarding a unilateral declaration
In a second scenario, the secessionists grab 67 seats, but pro-Spain parties have 62 and neither group can control Congress, elevating Catalunya en Comu as the power-broker
A third option is that Catalunya in Comu, the Podemos-friendly party headed by Barcelona Mayor Ada Colau, manages to convince ERC and PSC to join forces in a new group to make new demands to Madrid, such as organizing a legal independence referendum
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NacióDigital Verified account @naciodigital https://twitter.com/naciodigital/status/943841753165123585
La Guàrdia Civil considera delicte de rebel·lió les manifestacions de la Diada. L'atestat apunta a Rovira, Mas, Gabriel i una vintena de dirigents independentistes més http://ow.ly/rqLa30hn3Mv #21D
The Spanish Guardia Civil police force delivered a 560-page document to Judge Pablo Llarena of Spain’s Supreme Court, including events to add to the case against pro-independence leaders and the deposed Catalan government. In the report, the law enforcement organization lists the demonstrations organized since 2012 on September 11—Catalonia’s National Day—as information for the trial, which includes a lawsuit for the crime of rebellion. This was confirmed by the lawyer of deposed vice president Oriol Junqueras, Andreu van den Eynde, who also wrote on Twitter: “In the end they did it: according to the police, Catalonia’s National Day demonstrations are part of the crime of rebellion.” Van den Eynde also wrote the specific pages in the document where this was mentioned. Additionally in the document are first and last names of individuals that the police force believes to have been responsible for the roadmap to independence, including Esquerra Republicana (ERC) number 2 candidate, Marta Rovira, former Catalan president Artur Mas, and CUP candidate Anna Gabriel.
http://www.catalannews.com/society-science/item/catalonia-national-day-demonstrations-fall-under-crime-of-rebellion
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"ISIS" najavio teroristički napad u Kataloniji, vrlo zgodan trenutak 
https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/alerta-terrorista-los-mossos-buscan-a-un-presunto-yihadista-
en-barcelona_108728_102.html
https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/alerta-terrorista-los-mossos-buscan-a-un-presunto-yihadista-
en-barcelona_108728_102.html
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Prebrojano preko pola, independisti zasad na 70, ali im se projektovani broj poslanika smanjuje iz minuta u minut. Barselona gde Cs stoje najbolje je najmanje prebrojana.
68 je minimalna većina.
68 je minimalna većina.
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Prebrojano 68,4%, i dalje stoje na 70.
Reklo bi se da su sačuvali većinu, s tim da se ona može smanjiti za 1 ili 2 poslanika.
Reklo bi se da su sačuvali većinu, s tim da se ona može smanjiti za 1 ili 2 poslanika.
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The Spain Report @thespainreport
7m7 minutes ago
The difference in seats between separatist and constitutionalist blocks is not closing as the count progresses. Separatists still out in front, holding on to their majority.
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Raspodela mandata se nije promenila od polovine prebrojanih do evo sad na 74%. To je to, separatisti će svakako imati većinu, unionistima možda uspe da je smanje za 1 mandat u odnosu na trenutno stanje.
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El Pais reports:
"Police are patrolling the Spain–France border in Catalonia today in the event that Puigdemont should attempt to return to the region. If he does, he will be arrested."
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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The Spain Report
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2m2 minutes ago
La Sexta reporter just described PP HQ in Madrid as "a funeral home", as Catalan election results come in.
bummer
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The Spain Report
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2m2 minutes ago
Ciudadanos just took a seat from Puigdemont. Separatist majority down to two seats.
noktogrickanje
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Samo nakratko. Separatisti su povratili tog 70. na 84,2% prebrojanih i potvrdili taj rezultat na 85,7% i 87,2% prebrojanih, gledam na TVE.
Sa 47,5% glasova imaće 51,9% mesta u skupštini.
Sa 47,5% glasova imaće 51,9% mesta u skupštini.
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The Spain Report
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13m13 minutes ago
Separatists just got their seat back, up to 70 again. Moved from Catalan Socialist Party (Iceta) to Puigdemont.