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    Post by Zuper Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:54 am

    Mr. Moonlight wrote:rečno morski brodovi su bajka

    Znam da trolujes ali posto smo na temi o Kini, oni puno koriste takve broodve i to sada vec prilicnih tonaza

    Sea, river... all par for huge cargo ship's course


    Work on building China's first 20,000-metric-ton ship capable of transporting goods by both sea and river began on April 19 in the island city of Zhoushan, Zhejiang province, boosting the local free trade zone's transportation and logistics capabilities.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-05/03/content_29177346.htm

    Ova tonaza nije u rangu najvecih prekookeanskih teretnih brodova, koji imaju nekoliko puta vecu tonazu, ali jeste prilicna.
    To sto Srbija ne ume da koristi Dunav i druge plovne reke je posebna prica.
    Duizburg je recna luka, duboko unutar kontinenta, koja prebaci 130 miliona tona godisnje, sto je ogromno. To je oko 10 puta vise od Bara ili Rijeke.

    China’s first ship capable of sailing on rivers and oceans goes on maiden voyage




    Jedna mislim holandski priemrak kako napusta reku i ide na otvoreno more,




    Mislim da Rusi imaju puno ovakvih brodova i mnogo ih koriste za plovidbu svojim rekama, kanalima i obliznjim morima tipa Crno i Baltik.
    Holandjani isto, puno se koriste za transport robe izmedju recnih evropskih luka i npr. Britanije.


    Largest Russian ‘river-sea’ class dry cargo ship starts operation
    OJSC North-Western Shipping Company has started the operation of MV Neva-Leader 1, lead vessel of a series of dry bulk carriers of Project RSD49, the carrier’s news release said

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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:33 pm

    to što oni koriste je sasvim drugo i nema nikakve veze sa nama

    za prevoz od kine do srbije su daleko povoljniji morski brodovi, količina je jednostavno presudna

    btw kada budem trolovao, osetićeš
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    Post by Zuper Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:41 pm

    Ja nisam ni govorio da se plovi do Kine.
    Govorio sam da moze iz Kazahastana do Srbije brodom. A od luka u Kazahstanu do Kine vozom.

    A koriscenje morsko-recnih brodova iz Srbije bi moglo po Crnom moru i celom Mediteranu, mozda cak do Britanije i Baltika.

    Doduse vidimo da recno-morski borodvi nisu bajka.
    Samo ti troluj, nije meni problem.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:44 pm

    ništa, vreme je da ideš na ignore

    pošto je ovo poslednji put da se gledamo, samo da ti poželim da se udaviš od ruskog kurca, na moru ili reci, zabole me
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    Post by Zuper Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:54 pm

    Trolovaces ti i dalje kada te nahrane penisom sefovi.
    Tako da ce i dalje da se gledamo.
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    Post by Јанош Винету Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:28 pm

    Логистика контејнерског превоза није исто што и логистика носача руде. Ово су носачи руде гвожђа од 20.000 тона, а не контејнерски бродови са готовим производима.

    Оптимална величина носача руде гвожђа је тако, од 10.000 до 20.000т, и често су били морско-речни бродови. Познате руте су нпр. Шведска-Немачка, америчка Велика Језера итд.

    Бабе и жабе.
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    Post by Zuper Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:53 pm

    Hoces reci da ne postoji kontejenerski brodovi za unutrasnju plovidbu?
    Ovo je luka u Duizburgu na Rajni, duboko u kontinentu,

    Duisburg Inner Harbour is the largest inland port in the world. It is officially regarded as a "seaport" because seagoing river vessels go to ports in Europe, Africa and the Middle East. Numerous docks are mostly located at the mouth of the Ruhr where it joins the Rhine.

    Vec sam rekao da kolicina pretovara je oko 130 miliona tone godisnje sto je 8-10 vise od Rijeke ili Bara.

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    Ja ovde vidim kontejnere.

    Mozda si ti mislio da kontejnerski recno-morski borodovi imaju nizu tonazu od 20 000 tona, ja bih se slozio ali ja nigde nisam o tome raspravljao.

    Ti iz Beograda, cak mislim i NS, a narocito Pancevo, Prahovo ili Smederevo, mozes ozbiljan teren slati brodovima do Skandinavije, britanije, nemacke, francuske, spanije, celog mediterana, dobrog dela Afrike, Levanta, Rusije.

    To sto mi to ne koristimo je tragicno.
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    Post by Јанош Винету Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:04 pm

    Ови бродови које си навео да Кинези праве служе за превоз руде. Bulk cargo ship. Нису контејнерски.


    bulk cargo ship named Pacific Warrior berthed at the Shulanghu Island wharf in Zhoushan FTZ, carrying 389,900 tons of iron ore from Brazil worth 240 million yuan.

    400.000 тона Pacific Warrior насупрот овом новом морско-речном од 20.000 тона

    Какве везе има Дуизбург са овиме?
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    Post by Zuper Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:08 pm

    Kakve veze ima kontejner?
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:11 pm

    Етиопија је, уз помоћ Кине, лансирала у свемир свој први сателит који ће бити коришћен за истраживање климатских промена. Микросателит широког спектра, који је Етиопији донирала Кина, полетео је у свемир из Центра за лансирање сателита Тајџуан, у северној кинеској провинцији Шанжи.

    Како је саопштила кинеска Национална свемирска агенција, сателит тежак око 65 килограма са роком трајања од две године, може да на даљину прикупи податке значајне за пољопривреду, шумарство, водопривреду, као и за спречавање и ублажавање последица катастрофа.

    У оквиру програма, око 20 етиопијских инжењера обучава се у Кини за операције на земаљским станицама, преноси агенција Синхуа. Званичници Етипоије најављују да ће искуства сарадње са Кином представити осталим афричким земљама.
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    Post by Sergen Yalçın Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:12 pm

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    Post by Zuper Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:33 pm

    Sleeping dragon no more: China about to replace US as strongest naval power and Washington is too late to stop it

    China might soon shift the world naval balance and unseat the US as the modern master of the seas. The process appears to already be under way, and there is little that Washington can do about stopping it.
    Visibly shaken by what it has seen on a photo showing just one of China's military shipyards near Shanghai, the business magazine Forbes recently told its readers an alarming story about the "impressive rate" and "vast scale" of Chinese naval modernization.

    The shipyard in question indeed appears to be an impressive sight to behold. There, one can see a total of nine newly constructed destroyers lined along the quay and docked in an inner shipyard basin. By contrast, the entire UK Royal Navy has a total of just six similar-class vessels, Forbes notes.
    As if it was not enough, the same shipyard is also building China's newest aircraft carrier – the third in a row. The second one, called the Shandong, was commissioned by the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) earlier this week. Designed to carry 36 J-15 fighter jets, it is China's first fully domestically produced carrier.
    The one under construction at the Shanghai shipyard is expected to be even bigger and better. In particular, it will have an electromagnetic catapult – just like the US Navy’s newest carrier, USS Gerald R. Ford.



    More importantly, this one shipyard is but a sneak peek into China's real capabilities as there are "many yards across China, which are similarly impressive," Forbes warns its readers.

    'Good reason' to worry

    What might have come as a surprise for Forbes has been occupying the minds of all sorts of analysts for quite some time. The US media and think tanks alike are all united in their concerns about Beijing's growing military power.
    In June, the Center for a New American Security (CNAS), a Washington-based think tank, argued that China's industrial and technological capabilities might help it "beat the Americans at their own game" and get an edge in the new arms race.

    "The Soviets were never able to match, much less overcome, America's technological superiority. The same may not be true for China," warns the CNAS paper, adding that Beijing "strives to achieve technological parity, and eventually technological dominance."
    Similarly, a whole range of media outlets from The Diplomat to the National Interest spared no efforts telling their readers that China's military modernization poses "a challenge" to the US and gives Washington "good reasons" to worry. Harvard Policy Review made a step further and wondered whether Beijing's strategy could put it on a "path to hegemony," eventually admitting that it mostly depends on "how far China is willing to go."



    Meanwhile, the RAND Corporation – a premier US military think tank -- showed in its research that China's rapid military development program has already allowed it to drastically close the gap in power and technology, and even to put the US at a disadvantage in certain scenarios.
    The think tanks and the media apparently believe it is high time Washington started worrying about losing its military superiority to the Chinese dragon, which seems to be just spreading its wings. But when it comes to naval power, it might already be too late.

    'Unprecedented program Americans cannot even dream of'

    Beijing has made its naval forces the cornerstone of its military modernization, analysts tell RT. China is actively pursuing the role of a global military power able to project its force to any corner of the earth, and the US may not have the sheer industrial capacity to compete.



    "It is easier for China to increase its fleet numbers as it is the world's biggest shipbuilder. They have immense shipyard capacities, which the US lacks, as its commercial shipbuilding has been thrown into disarray over the past decades," says Vasily Kashin, Far East researcher at the Russian Academy of Sciences.
    Political scientist and military expert Aleksandr Khramchikhin, deputy head of the Institute of Political and Military Analysis, described the Chinese navy development program as "totally unprecedented."



    Khramchikhin believes that Beijing might be able to rival Washington in terms of the sheer fleet size in a decade or so. He particularly noted that China has been able to build frigates, corvettes and even destroyers by the dozen over the past decades.

    "Ten years ago, the US had 15 aircraft carriers and China had none. In ten years, they might become even… They have more shipbuilders than the rest of the world together."

    Closing the technological gap

    One advantage the US would seem certain to hold on to is technological superiority. It could try to curb China's emerging naval might by limiting Beijing's access to modern technologies. That strategy is unlikely to work, the analysts believe, as China already has some cutting-edge technologies it could easily develop further. Besides, it can also approach its strategic partner, Russia.

    They make great technological advances," Kashin says. He points that the Chinese were the second nation in the world to equip their ships with integrated universal weapons systems rivaling America's Aegis – an advanced command and control system using powerful computers and radars to track and guide the vessels’ weapons.
    Khramchikhin believes that Chinese naval technologies are already in many ways comparable to those of the US. "When it comes to surface ships, the Chinese already have some of the most advanced technologies."
    It is true that some military technologies are difficult to master and take decades to develop. It is particularly relevant in the case of submarines, a field where China is still trailing the US. Here, however, close cooperation between Beijing and Moscow might tip the scales, the analysts believe.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:34 pm

    "Ten years ago, the US had 15 aircraft carriers and China had none. In ten years, they might become even… They have more shipbuilders than the rest of the world together."

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    Post by Zuper Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:39 pm

    Ako budu hteli-mogu.
    Imaju kapacitet za tako nesto.
    Ali kada se pogleda broj razaraca, stancaju ih kao ludi.
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    Post by disident Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:16 pm

    Uz ogradu oko autenticnosti, jer tako neverovatno izgleda


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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:20 pm

    Uncle Police...
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    Post by Indy Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:26 pm

    disident wrote:Uz ogradu oko autenticnosti

    Da, ovih dana nikad ne znaš ko te radi, ili pokušava da te radi. Bojim se da je ovo ipak verovatno onako kako izgleda.
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    Post by Zuper Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:31 pm

    Koliko su hanovci tehnoloski ispred evrope i zapada.
    Pogledajte kakve stolice za osudjene imaju.
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    Post by Indy Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:32 pm

    I to su verovatno iskopirali od Cije.
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:42 am

    Bolji kvalitet:



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    A “tiger chair” specially designed to restrain detainees. Former detainees say that police often strap them into these metal chairs for hours and even days, depriving detainees of sleep, and immobilizing them until their legs and buttocks were swollen.
    https://www.hrw.org/report/2015/05/13/tiger-chairs-and-cell-bosses/police-torture-criminal-suspects-china
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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:46 am

    Ou nouz


    MOSCOW -- In a rare public display of frustration between Moscow and Beijing, Russian state defense conglomerate Rostec accused China of illegally copying a broad range of Russian weaponry and other military hardware.

    "Unauthorized copying of our equipment abroad is a huge problem. There have been 500 such cases over the past 17 years," said Yevgeny Livadny, Rostec's chief of intellectual property projects on Dec. 14. "China alone has copied aircraft engines, Sukhoi planes, deck jets, air defense systems, portable air defense missiles, and analogs of the Pantsir medium-range surface-to-air systems."

    Rostec's complaint about Chinese reverse engineering comes at a time when the arms trade between the two countries is thriving. According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, Russia was by far China's largest weapons supplier between 2014 and 2018, accounting for 70% of Beijing's arms imports during that period.
    ...

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Russia-up-in-arms-over-Chinese-theft-of-military-technology
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    Post by ontheotherhand Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:31 pm

    Kineske bolnice i zatvori kriju jednu od najmračnijih tajni 21. veka:

    https://www.blic.rs/slobodno-vreme/kako-se-odvilo-klupko-uzasa-ova-zemlja-ima-vise-od-milion-transplantacija-godisnje-a/l5v8b01?utm_source=blic_kat_vesti_beograd_sidebar&utm_medium=sidebar_slobodno_vreme
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    Post by Zuper Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:16 pm

    Geely in talks to pump cash into Aston Martin
    Shares surge at UK carmaker in need of finances because of flagging profits

    China’s Geely has held talks with Aston Martin investors and management as it considers pumping much-needed cash into the luxury carmaker.



    Germany’s Daimler, in which Geely owns 10 per cent, already sells some technology and engines to Aston. Geely, which owns Britain’s Lotus and Sweden’s Volvo as well as a stake in Daimler, is one of several groups in discussions about investing in the business.

    https://www.ft.com/content/d2959822-33a4-11ea-9703-eea0cae3f0de

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