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Post by Hubert de Montmirail on Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:18 pm

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Post by Filipenko on Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:13 am

Hehe, babašvaba™️, tako joj i treba.
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Post by Gargantua on Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:46 am

Marton HAJDU @hajduspox

Naïve painting on the wall in a Hungarian spa resort depicting... I am not sure what exactly but it has sg to do with #MigrantCrisis @Queen_Europe #Merkel #Orban, the Abduction of #Europe, barbed wire and #RubiksCube, #Freemasonry, #Terrorism, #ISIS and so much more. #CaptionThis https://t.co/r4qcGN60ap



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Post by beatakeshi on Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:50 am

:hail:Sveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
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Post by Filipenko on Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:51 am

Vaistinu kakva slika 


No dobro, niko ne zna poput Mađara kako je to kada divlje azijatske horde dođu u Evropu.
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Post by beatakeshi on Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:56 am

Al Merkel propala načisto.
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Post by Filipenko on Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:18 pm

RUMUNSKI PREMIJER ŠOKIRAO KOMŠIJE: Ako se ovde zavijori mađarska zastava, ZAVIJORIĆE SE I MAĐARI! 





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Post by Gargantua on Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:06 pm

Madjarska najavila nove zakonske mere protiv pomaganja migrantima


Vlada Madjarske je danas najavila novi skup zakona o oporezivanju i mogućem kažnjavanju madjarskih organizacija koje pomažu ilegalnim migrantima, a finansiraju se iz inostranstva.

Te grupe će morati da se registruju u sudovima i, ukoliko više od polovine sredstava dobijaju iz inostranstva, moraće da plate 25 odsto poreza na ta inostrana sredstva, izjavio je ministar unutrašnjih poslova Šandor Pinter.

Grupe koje se ne budu registrovale, a za koje vlasti budu smatrale da pomažu ilegalnu migraciju, biće novčano kažnjenje.

Ministar Pinter je naveo primer jedne osobe koja je dala "smartfon" s mapai druge informacije o "putu do Evrope" jednom migrantu u Beogradu koji je deo takozvane "Balkanske rute" koju migranti koriste da bi otišli u Nemačku i druge zemlje.

Zakon bi mogao da bude primenjen i na pojedince za koje država smatra da "organizju ilegalnu migraciju", tako što bi im bilo zabranjeno da granicama prilaze na manje od osam kilmetara. To bi se odnosilo i na madjarske granice Madjarske sa Srbijom i Ukrajinom.

Strancima za koje se proceni da pomažu ileganoj migraciji, mogao bi da bude zabranjen ulazak u Madjarsku, dodao je Pinter.

Portparol vlade Zoltan Kovač izjavio da će nevladine organizacije i grupe u Madjarskoj za koje se sumnja da imaju veze s ilegalnom migracijom, morati da poštuju zakon i vlastima pokažu svoje aktivnosti.

Novi set zakon se ne bi primenjivao na verske i druge humanitarne organizacije ili na Crveni krst i druge koji dele hranu, lekove i drugu pomoć migrantima.

"Davanje pomoći nije isto što i aktivno učešće u nečijem ilegalnom prelasku granice", rekao je Kovač.

Premijer Viktor Orban je protivnik imigracije, posebno muslimana, dok je Madjarska krajem 2015. postavila ograde duž svojih južnih granica kako bi zaustavila tok migranata.

Vlada je svoje zakone nazvala "Stop Sorošu" jer okrivljuje milijardera i filantropa Džordža Soroša zbog migracije u Evropi, delom jer finansira grupe koje brane prava izbeglica.


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Post by KinderLad on Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:07 am

Ovo je bizarno
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Post by William Murderface on Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:14 am

Nacoši, mamicu im jebem.


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Post by Gargantua on Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:24 am

Lili Bayer @liliebayer

Where will a Fidesz vice-president of the Hungarian parliament be on January 27, the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz? At a ceremony celebrating the birth of Nazi ally Miklos Horthy. 600,000 Hungarian Jews were murdered in the Holocaust.

https://twitter.com/liliebayer/status/956063316174098432?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E0


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Post by Filipenko on Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:17 pm

Viktor Orbán’s father’s company awarded $1.2 million state contract

Sad kad Vucic otvori firmu na caleta...

BTW zasto u naslovu topika stoji "Sloboda Madjarskoj" ? Valjda, ako je cilj smrt fasizmu, treba da stoji i "Smrt Madjarskoj" ?
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Post by William Murderface on Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:19 pm

Ne.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Soviet_Republic


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Post by Gargantua on Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:06 pm

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Letter in mail from Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. He writes to every citizen that George Soros wants to remove the fence & resettle millions from Africa & Mideast. The prime minister writes “Stop Soros” bill & every tool will be used so “Hungary will remain a Hungarian country.”




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Post by William Murderface on Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:10 pm

Ludilo eskalira.


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Post by Kondo on Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:51 am

Fantasticna je madjarska birokratija, najbolja u cijeli svijet. To kad te licno oslove iz dubine administrativne tmine, pa to je odmah upiš u gaće. Jednom sam tako u jesen 2015 naslovio protestno pismo Orbanu spram neke od uobičajenih izbegličkih nepodopšitina da bi sedam dana kasnije dobio uredno personalizovan odgovor od neke Piroške Šamloi Galuške kako se bog zna kako izvinjava što nas je Premijer razočarao te će se potruditi da se to ne ponovi.


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Post by Gargantua on Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:57 pm

The Hungarian Ruse

by Ervin Csizmadia on 7 February 2018


Two and a half months before the Hungarian parliamentary elections, the majority of foreign observers have presumptively called the outcome: the ruling party Fidesz will win again, definitively putting an end to democracy. Certainly, there are those who see the Hungarian situation in a more subtle way (the fact that the migration policy of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has more and more fans in Europe points in this direction), nevertheless the prevailing opinion is that the Hungarian government has distanced itself from Europe in the past eight years.

If this Western supposition were correct, then there would have to be a dedicated, concentrated opposition which would point out the baneful mistakes of the Orban government’s European policy and provide a powerful alternative. There is a catch, however. There is no such opposition. The reason why is that the Hungarian opposition is not European enough.

How is this possible? – we may ask. It is not as complicated as it seems. Orbán’s popularity and the opposition’s unpopularity are closely related. And both have something to do with Europe.

The pro-Europe stance of the Hungarian opposition means just one thing: adhering to norms.
Ever since the mid-19th century the essence of our politics was that Hungary is an underdeveloped country and it can only catch up if it follows the western example. This has served Hungarian political development well although often it was not enough. It worked for example after 1867 (after the Austro-Hungarian compromise) when Hungarian politics drew much closer to the European mainstream. It also worked after 1990 when, following the dismantling of the previous dictatorship, democratic institutions were established. There are periods though when following the pack no longer suffices. The current Hungarian opposition is strong in adhering to norms but weak in figuring out what to do if a follower mentality is not sufficient to attain a Western European lifestyle. In other words, it does not know how to react to a situation in which the post-1990 euphoria of the transition has ended and it has transpired that the introduction of western institutions in itself is not enough. Orbán’s success however derives from the fact that he and his party are strong in the areas where the opposition is weak.

In line with most of the West, the opposition calls the current Hungarian political system an autocracy. With this categorization, however, we mask what provides Orbán’s strength. If the system is indeed an autocracy then we have to be able to explain how it is possible that the people who for quite a long time loved and followed the western model suddenly decided to turn away from it. It is not enough of an explanation that the Hungarian Prime Minister dismantled democratic institutions. How could he have done this if a strong liberal democracy had existed?

Orbánism’s power stems from its recognition that it is not enough to follow Europe, one has to form it as well. Naturally the Hungarian opposition says: such a small country shouldn’t want to set trends. The opposition is simply wrong here. A multitude of western authors write about the fact that small states have their own role in world politics. There are certain things that small countries might actually know better than great ones.

Orbán’s politics is not haphazard. What he does is not at all unfamiliar to those who know Hungarian history. The need to be a trendsetter was always present alongside the follower mentality. If we read historic texts of Hungarian authors we will be surprised at how similar their thoughts were to what Orbán’s government is thinking and doing today.

Protecting Hungarian national sovereignty is a core element of this politics. The current Hungarian right did not invent this, it just revived a Hungarian tradition. This may seem anachronistic in today’s global world but actually is not when compared for example to the Catalans or the Scots. Though Hungary is an independent state and, in this sense, different from Catalonia and Scotland nevertheless they all share a strong desire for national independence. In the case of Hungary this goes hand in hand with its history. A part of the Hungarian elite has always thought it important to protect national sovereignty.

Orbán’s politics is far from just being domestic policy, it also wants to shape international relations. This is what the opposition does not understand and hence cannot influence.
The current Hungarian opposition (besides the fact that it is highly fragmented) does not have a dynamic picture of Europe. The only thing it can say about itself is that it is pro-western, end of story. Nearing the end of the second decade of the 21st century, this is not enough for voters though. They are right to ask: if the current opposition is western, then why couldn’t it create a western standard of life in Hungary while in government?

Hungarian liberal and left-wing parties portray Europe in a static way, as if the European Union were not facing any problems. This, however, does not reflect the first hand experiences of voters. The opposition parties should speak more about the current debates on Europe and what alternative suggestions have arisen to solve current problems. Talking about Europe (and its difficulties) in a more courageous and open way, introducing the public to what it thinks about the present and future of EU, could be key to shifting public opinion towards them.

https://www.socialeurope.eu/the-hungarian-ruse


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Post by William Murderface on Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:26 am

Odličan.


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Post by KinderLad on Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:29 am

Ma da. Orbanizam je "najnapredniji" vid "iliberalne deomokratije" u Evropi. Najnapredniji u pogrešnom smeru, ali svejedno. Proaktivan je.
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Post by otto katz on Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:23 pm

Znači ovi Poljaci su i službeno teško bolesna rasa :Filipenko: koju treba hitno preseliti na ruski daleki istok u cilju dalje terapije. Maršalek pozvao Poljake u inozemstvu da prijavljuju slučajeve ispoljavanja antipoljskog mišljenja. 
Apel marszałka Senatu RP Stanisława Karczewskiego, by Polacy mieszkający za granicą donosili o antypolskich wypowiedziach nie spodobał się Niemcom. Uważają, że Polonia nie potrzebuje żadnych wskazówek, o czym ma meldować rządowi. Czytaj więcej na http://fakty.interia.pl/swiat/news-niemcy-krytykuja-apel-marszalka-karczewskiego-o-zglaszanie-a,nId,2522952#utm_source=paste&utm_medium=paste&utm_campaign=chrome

"Proszę o dokumentowanie i reagowanie na przejawy antypolonizmu, krzywdzące nas sformułowania i opinie", napisał w swoim apelu marszałek Senatu Karczewski, wywodzący się z szeregów PiS. "Proszę o powiadamianie naszych ambasad, konsulatów i konsulów honorowych o pomówienia naruszające dobre imię Polski" - czytamy w liście rozsyłanym mailem przez polskie placówki dyplomatyczne.


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Post by Hubert de Montmirail on Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:28 pm

"We must defend Hungary as it is now. We must state that we do not want to be diverse and do not want to be mixed: we do not want our own colour, traditions and national culture to be mixed with those of others. We do not want this. We do not want that at all. We do not want to be a diverse country. We want to be how we became 1100 years ago here in the Carpathian Basin. This is the path that we want to continue along"

Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s speech at the annual general meeting of the Association of Cities with County Rights


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Post by Gargantua on Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:01 pm

Da ih bude par desetina hiljada, sa konjima i mačevima i da žive pod šatorima?



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Post by beatakeshi on Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:23 pm

Kako ono kaže Filip kaže - incestuozni ...
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Post by Gargantua on Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:24 pm

Zaboravih dodati da ova priča ima tužan kraj...


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Post by паће on Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:39 pm

Мало су заборавили да су нешто пре тога асимиловали Куне и још понеке а и онда шкк су се мешали са Словацима, Румунима, Немцима, јужним Словенима и с ким још.

Мада, тада је итекако било решења за миграције: насељеност је била тако ниска да су две сеобе могле да прођу истим крајем да не сретну никог, па ни једна другу.


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