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    Post by Esterházy Márton Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:42 pm

    nije zgoreg prisetiti se da je SFRJ bila ishod NOB-a, i kao takva, tvorevina revolucije, posledica revolucije, a ne njen uzrok ili nosilac.  Stvarni nosilac revolucije bio je naoružani, samoorganizovani narod, koji se borio i protiv nacista, fašista, itd. ali i protiv pretenzija saveznika da raskomadaju Jugoslaviju i da ukinu njen socijalistički karakter. Isto tako, ni neka famozna  „Balkanska federacija“ ne može biti pretpostavka, već eventualni rezultat borbi.

    Kaki kvake za saveznike. I preskace ulogu SSSR oko pobede "revolucije".
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    Post by Guest Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:52 pm

    pa danas nema samo tog jednog za soc revoluciju minornog svetskog faktora, SSSR Levica u Srbiji i svetu - Page 19 1399639816
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    Post by No Country Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:52 pm

    Мени је сумњиво и ово око самоорганизације.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:58 pm

    Taj deo teksta jeste realno nebitan, ali je 1 potpuna glupost sa pet netačnosti u četiri reda.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:01 pm

    No Country wrote:Мени је сумњиво и ово око самоорганизације.

    Oko samoorganizacije i tako-tako, ali taj "samoorganizovani" narod teško da je bio nosilac revolucije. Niti je "samoorganizovani narod" igde bio nosilac (uspešne) revolucije. Naravno da je uvek za to neophodna jasno profilisana politička avangarda.
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    Post by Guest Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:03 pm

    kakve ovde nema ni u najavi
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:03 pm

    Gargantua wrote:zanimljiv je ovaj rat(ić) na, recimo, levici.

    zapravo vec jenjava. ova institucionalizacija delica, draskovica i ostalih "nacionalista" kroz novi plamen je pokazatelj da je ta prica prilicno mrtva.

    inace poceo sam da citam pa batalio. zapravo su najludje fantazije o suverenistickoj desnici. ta ista suverenisticka desnica je stajala u redovima za dobrovoljce za irak.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:06 pm

    mislim ovde se cela stvar vrti oko kooptiranja raznih ludana u neki suverenisticki levo-desno mrdalica front protiv EU i amerike a za povratak na kosovo zato sto to narod zeli.

    inace jedini saveznik koji je zeleo razbijanje jugoslavije makar u nekom periodu je bio sssr. pri tome je nejasno kako se mogao ukinuti socijalisticki karakter kraljevine jugoslavije.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:10 pm

    naravno problem je i taj sto su svi ovde na nekim navodno suverenistickim pozicijama. eto im juce nastup vucicev u cirilici. naravno to je zato sto suverenost nije egzaktan pojam vec jedan veoma konfuzan i protivrecan i razlicite upotrebe tog termina dolaze od razlicitih ljudi sa razlicitih politickih pozicija. 

    https://iwallerstein.com/the-myth-of-sovereignty/


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:14 pm

    e da i da dodam da je ova ekipa kao i cirjakovic instinktivno vucicevska.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by disident Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:14 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:e da i da dodam da je ova ekipa kao i cirjakovic instinktivno vucicevska.
    slobisticka  Levica u Srbiji i svetu - Page 19 2304934895


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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:16 pm

    pa vise ne. to je ludi goatmare koji ima stokholmski slobisticki sindrom a ova ekipa je anti-drugosrbijanska i samim tim vucicevska. oni se svi oblizuju kada vucic kenja po zutima a lajna vesne pesic zavija u ocaju.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:18 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:mislim ovde se cela stvar vrti oko kooptiranja raznih ludana u neki suverenisticki levo-desno mrdalica front protiv EU i amerike a za povratak na kosovo zato sto to narod zeli.

    inace jedini saveznik koji je zeleo razbijanje jugoslavije makar u nekom periodu je bio sssr. pri tome je nejasno kako se mogao ukinuti socijalisticki karakter kraljevine jugoslavije.

    bolje da ovo sve kažeš ti nego ja Levica u Srbiji i svetu - Page 19 1399639816
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:18 pm

    disident wrote:
    bruno sulak wrote:e da i da dodam da je ova ekipa kao i cirjakovic instinktivno vucicevska.
    slobisticka  Levica u Srbiji i svetu - Page 19 2304934895

    tako je  Levica u Srbiji i svetu - Page 19 1861198401
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:19 pm

    mislim kada bih ja morao da ih politicki odredim oni su sustinski peronisti i to linijom preko laklaua.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by boomer crook Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:20 pm

    mislim ova diskusija na kraju moze biti i plodna.


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    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:20 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:naravno problem je i taj sto su svi ovde na nekim navodno suverenistickim pozicijama. eto im juce nastup vucicev u cirilici. naravno to je zato sto suverenost nije egzaktan pojam vec jedan veoma konfuzan i protivrecan i razlicite upotrebe tog termina dolaze od razlicitih ljudi sa razlicitih politickih pozicija. 

    i u različitim epohama.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:23 pm

    Ima još jedna stvar, skoro sve to što se može reći za suverenitet se može reći i za nacionalizam. Pošto biti nacionalista u Vijetnamu 1970 i biti nacionalista u Srbiji 2020 su ne dve, nego dvadeset dve stvari.
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    Post by Mr.Pink Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:29 pm

    Aha eurosepsom do nekih npvih saveznistva balkanskih

    Nije mi poznata ta ekipa sto drzi plamen, nisam u toku zaista


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    Post by Mr.Pink Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:34 pm

    Al kad procitah antonic bio sam wtf


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    Post by Erős Pista Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:41 pm

    Pa to je punktum teksta, fusnota o Antonicu. Tu bi trebalo da zastanu i kao - wtf, ako smi se nasli u istoj ekipi s njim, vreme je da se vratimo za drawing board. Al oni jok.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:58 pm

    Ma boli ih uvo za Antonića, ono što je bitno je da nisu na istoj strani sa Jovom  Levica u Srbiji i svetu - Page 19 1861198401
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:12 am

    ajmo jos malo da mutimo vodu

    https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1960s/1968/no-770-october-1968/why-socialists-oppose-the-vietcong/?fbclid=IwAR2jm8mQ7ycYwW7KqIpi-C_GiqpqmeU0wgAqe87hXDkG-wFIPAcmzgTd3G4


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:26 am

    Meni je najsmešnije od svega to što se sve ovo već desilo.
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:06 am

    ALL THIS HAPPENED BEFORE...


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