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    Post by rumbeando Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:20 pm

    Nije baš zgodno pre partije objaviti vest o epidemiji.

    Vest od 1.1. Tog dana je zatvorena vuhanska pijaca s koje je navodno sve krenulo.



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    China said on Saturday that it would suspend all tour groups and the sale of flight and hotel packages for its citizens headed overseas, starting on Monday.
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    The Beijing city government also announced on Saturday that it would suspend all inter-province buses from Sunday, effectively limiting road travel into the capital.
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    Wuhan also tightened its restrictions further on Saturday with a ban on vehicle traffic in the city center, to begin at midnight.

    The local government said some vehicles would be exempted, including shuttle buses and trucks moving supplies. Residents responded with frustration on social media. One woman, who said she was pregnant and near her due date, asked if she was supposed to walk to her gynecologist’s office.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:41 pm

    a da se ovo desilo oko 1500te godine umrlo bi svih pola milijarde stanovnika sveta. otkrivate toplu vodu.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:45 pm

    pa ne jebi ga, tada ne bi preterano mnogo ljudi putovalo avionima kojekude
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    Post by паће Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:57 pm

    AZ-5 wrote:a da se ovo desilo oko 1500te godine umrlo bi svih pola milijarde stanovnika sveta. otkrivate toplu vodu.

    Па не баш, зависило би од тога докле стигну да побегну док су живи. Путовало се и тада, али не тако брзо. Убрзо би налетело на неку комбинацију беспућа и ретко насељеног краја, где би помрли чекајући да се повуче вода, отопи снег, стане рат/опсада.


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    Post by kapetanm Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:00 pm

    Ma ne. Samo u gradovima
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    Post by kapetanm Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:17 pm

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    Post by beatakeshi Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:00 pm

    Jel neko gledao onaj Sodebergov film?
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:01 pm

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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:03 pm

    Contagion? Jesam davno ali mi nije ostao u nekom sećanju.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:12 pm

    i stvarno, nagradno pitanje: šta će biti kad korona spiči neki afrički megapolis? Virus - Page 3 2729202060
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:20 pm

    https://twitter.com/MeyerBjoern/status/1221155534281330689

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    Some thoughts on the #2019_nCov situation: it is clear now the virus is spreading fast. We are now in 5+ generations of human to human transmission. It becomes apparent that the virus is adapted well enough to sustain such a spread in an efficient way 1/n

    The virus appears to preferentially infect the power respiratory tract. This is interesting and relevant because of virus loads for potential droplet transmission. The bigger report is that only around 40% develop fever, while it was around 99% for SARS 2/n

    This is important because current screening methods focus on fever, thus miss 6 out of 10 people. At the same time the numbers reported, spread and timing don't add up, so that there is either a lot of underreporting (very likely) or that there is a large proportion of 3/n

    Asymptomatic/subclinical cases (rather my bet). If so, the big question is: how infectious are these asymptomatic cases? We don't know. Early estimates suggest, the R0, the number each case infects more people on average is somewhere between 2-3. 4/n

    Another point to figure out is SARS cases were only infectious after symptoms. For this virus we don't know yet, but a potential large number of asymptomatic cases and the speed of spread might suggest otherwise. I'm happy to be wrong on this one 5/n

    The virus spreads fast through China, Asia but now to the US and Europe as well. What now? Can we stop it? - don't think so. The world is just too connected. Which means cases will appear almost anywhere favorably. Which is where? Places that allow for close human contact 6/n

    This pretty much sounds like anywhere anyways. So what to do? Guess this is the big question but a complicated one. The diagnosis of cases seems to work well using qRT-PCR methods. So, this might cover maybe the 40% of cases developing fever.  7/n

    Since the R0 is around 3, you want to pick up 3/4 or more of cases to limit cases. For me the important questions to figure out are: how long is the incubation period? How many cases are asymptomatic? Are only symptomatic cases infectious? How do you detect majority of cases? 8/n

    I think this will be key. At the same time what can we do about symptomatic cases. Isolation and supportive treatment seems to be a good start. The most severe cases seem to have underlying health issues in many cases. Many cases seem to be older, i.e. 48yr +. 9/n

    Also, something we saw for SARS. Is this something that can be addressed at the clinic? Not sure, maybe. There are no specific licensed drugs or vaccines out to treat. It already made the news that Moderna starts to look into a RNA-based vaccine. But let's be honest 10/n

    Such vaccines take a long time I believe this will be too late for peak infections. What about antivirals? There is nothing licensed specifically.  There is a report out that the Chinese were able to successfully treat someone. Was it with an antiviral? We don't know yet 11/n

    There are some candidates tested in early stages, some look promising. Time will tell. Until then the SARS approach might be promising - combination therapy with drugs such as nucleoside analogs, which drive the virus into generating detrimental mutations combined with 12/n

    Immune stimulation, such as IFN. Overall, this might improve serious infections in many cases. Other than this, it's the simple improve your hygiene by washing your hands often, cover your nose/mouth when sneezing/coughing. Avoid confined places with many people 13/

    Finally, I don't think panicking will help. But now it is a more rational approach that will help to reduce infections by a clear infection control approach which each country should communicate clearly and simply to their citizens. The rest needs figuring out. 14/end
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    Post by beatakeshi Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:32 pm

    Da, odličan film, i čini mi se proročki.
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:13 pm

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    Post by kapetanm Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:32 pm

    Gargantua wrote:i stvarno, nagradno pitanje: šta će biti kad korona spiči neki afrički megapolis? Virus - Page 3 2729202060
    Ništa, u odnosu na Aziju gde će se svakako brzometno raširiti. Kad pomislim na Indiju, tu higijenu i brojnost, užas
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    Post by kondo Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:40 pm

    za najkasnije 2 nedelje ce se u srbiju vratiti svih nekoliko hiljada kineza koji su otisli da slave novu godinu u matici. dve glavne provincije odakle dolaze (fujian, zhejiang) su 600-800km daleko od wuhana, otprilike isto kao i shanghai, koji je proglasio level 1 emergency. bice pravo cudo da ne bude obolelih ovde. 

    sem ako lončar i vučić ne zatvore ulaz u srbiju (malo verovatno) ili (realnije) ako kinezi ne obustave letove van zemlje. pogotovo sada kada je bolest promenila tok i više nije praćena temperaturom.


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    Post by Zuper Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:44 pm

    Nema brige, Srbija i njene sluzbe su spremne.

    Corona iz nase i vase mladosti




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    Post by kapetanm Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:46 pm

    Kondo idi dok možeš na ostrvo tvoje da ostane neki Srbin
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    Post by Zuper Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:48 pm

    Svi pod palmu za dve bitange i ribicu

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    Post by kondo Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:48 pm

    hah nećete verovati imamo i kineze na ostrvu, 2 radnje po 2 osobe minimum a mislim i više od toga

    doduše lokalci su sve samo ne tolerantni, baciće ih u more bez pitanja ako procene da je frka


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    Post by ficfiric Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:51 pm

    kapetanm wrote:Kondo idi dok možeš na ostrvo tvoje da ostane neki Srbin

    Uskok nek ti da jednu pcelu i maticu, Gari nek donira dva psa, Pace dva jeza... za svaki slucaj


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    Post by kondo Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:55 pm

    sve ali sve od toga ima i na otoku i bolje od srbskih pasa, jezeva i kosnica


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    Post by Zuper Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:59 pm

    Dodjite vi na zuperovu barku.
    Ima sve za malu ali odbranu grupu.
    Samo muskarci.

    Spasa nam nema, propasti necemo.
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    Post by kapetanm Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:02 am

    Imam mlaadu višnju srpsku. I počni puškarnice da bušiš.
    Gde beše Vasina tema šta raditi kad naiđe katsklizma?

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