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    Post by Erős Pista Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:29 pm

    Izlazimo sad ljepša polovica i ja iz bioskopa, i dok se zakopčavamo u hodniku (u međuvremenu, napolju počela kiša), pored nas prolazi jedan sredovečan par (mislim, sredovečniji od nas dvoje) sa devojkom od recimo 18-19 godina, ćerkom pretpostavljam, i svo troje nešto gunđaju, pa će žena: "A vama, jel se svideo filma?". Mi kao - pa jeste, a vama? Nije! Zašto? DOsadan! Više smo očekivali. Toliko poznatih glumaca, a ništa...


    The Means of Escape




    The communists in the Coen brothers’ Hail Caesar! are silly caricatures, but the film upholds basic Marxist premises.




    by Eileen Jones
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    Hail Caesar! trailer. YouTube



    To celebrate the release of our new issue, “Up From Liberalism,” subscriptions to Jacobin start at just $14.95.
    The new Coen brothers’ film Hail Caesar! has been promoted as wacky, lighthearted entertainment about Hollywood in the 1950s, with many critics praising it in those terms; Lou Lumenek of the New York Post calls it “an enjoyable lark,” for example, while Peter Rainer of Christian Science Monitor says it’s “a doodle in the Coen canon.”
    These misleading characterizations may explain why the film kicked off so badly. Though by this point it’s made enough to cover its budget, in the United States it had “the lowest opening haul of any major release in the Oscar-winning duo’s career.”
    Hail Caesar! has a lot of hilarious and delightful bits — especially if you know anything about the history of Hollywood’s classic studio era — but it’s far too dense and intricate a film for general audiences who were sold on a zany slapstick comedy featuring George Clooney as a clueless 1950s movie star pitching face-forward out of his trailer like a felled tree.
    The film has miserable audience ratings. I’ve seen it twice now in fairly crowded theaters; people laugh freely at the early scenes but sink into the doldrums about a quarter of the way into the film. In fact, the moment when audiences decide they hate the film is even identifiable: it’s the scene where a roomful of communists, including a character identified as Dr Herbert Marcuse, starts holding forth on “the dialectic.”
    There’s a lesson in this for all of us. If there’s one thing most Americans don’t want to hear about — even in fun, even at a time of growing affection for Bernie Sanders and rising political interest in socialism — it’s “the dialectic.”
    The treatment of communists in Hail Caesar! is typical of the Coens: irreverent and fraught with irony. Every individual communist character is shown to be pretty silly, but at the end of it all the truth of certain basic Marxist premises is firmly upheld.
    This seeming contradiction echoes the incongruities of the Coen creations more generally; they lovingly recreate old Hollywood genre films — showing them to be surreal and funny and wonderful — while at the same time demonstrating how they’re the product of ruthlessly mercenary business practices that generate profits from people’s miserable longing for escape, comfort, and transcendence.
    The film’s protagonist Eddie Mannix (played with brio by Josh Brolin) exemplifies this ambiguity: Mannix is a hard-case enforcer of the system’s operations as well as a devout old-school Catholic who both recognizes and exploits people’s longing, approving of the way it aligns movies with religion. But at the same time, he’s admirably tough and smart, and honestly loves filmmaking.
    As Joel Coen put it in a recent interview, as the “fixer,” he’s also “the sane person in an insane universe. The movie business is a lunatic asylum.”

    The Red Studio



    The basic plot of the film creates a non-linear structure as we follow the course of Eddie Mannix, an executive and “fixer” at Capitol Pictures who’s plagued by a multitude of outlandish problems typical of the classic-era Hollywood studio system.
    His Hollywood odyssey as he attempts to put out multiple fires includes bursts of exhilarating spectacle in the form of musical numbers, stunt-filled Western action sequences, and sword-and-sandal extravaganzas created on soundstages and backlots and location shoots all around the town.
    The character of Eddie Mannix is based on the eponymous real-life “fixer” at MGM Studios who was far more corrupt than this version of him. And many of the problems involving stars in Hail Caesar! are based on some of the real-life movie-star scandals of the day.
    Eddie’s various predicaments include dealing with the pregnant, unwed star of Esther Williams-style “water ballet” musicals, DeeAnna Moran (Scarlett Johansson), who says of her tight mermaid costume, “I don’t think I’m gonna fit in that fish ass after this week.”
    Then there’s a bullheaded directive from the studio president Joe Schenk mandating that rustic Western hero Hobie Doyle (Alden Ehrenreich) undergo an impossibly drastic change of image so he can put on a tuxedo and star in the sophisticated drawing-room comedy Merrily We Dance.
    And while striding between soundstages, Eddie is hounded by twin scandal-seeking gossip columnists, Thora and Thessaly Thacker (Tilda Swinton), who are always threatening to reveal the shocking truth about how top studio star Baird Whitlock (George Clooney) got cast in an early career-making film, On Wings As Eagles.
    Mannix is also harassed by forces outside the studio. An executive from Lougheed Aircraft Manufacturing is pressuring him for an answer on the company’s lucrative job offer. He’s trying desperately to quit smoking in a cigarette-addicted world because he promised his wife he would. And then there’s the torment of his intense Catholicism that compels him to go to confession approximately every twenty-four hours, until even his jaded priest says, “It’s too often.”
    But most challenging of all is the abduction of Baird Whitlock from the set of the studio’s most expensive prestige picture of the year, a lavish biblical epic entitled Hail Caesar! A Tale of the Christ.
    As it turns out, Baird Whitlock was kidnapped by communists who appear just as ridiculous as most of the film’s other characters. Dedicated citizens of the far left who lack a sense of humor may be seriously offended by the film’s jokes about some of the most sacred moments in the left-wing political history of the United States.
    And ironically, worrying over sacred moments of this history seemed to be the main occupation of these Hail Caesar! reds before Dr Marcuse inspired them to take direct action. Until then, they confide in Baird Whitlock, “we’d largely confined ourselves to planting communist propaganda in Hollywood films.”
    In real life, planting communist propaganda was one of the charges against the Hollywood Ten — mostly screenwriters — made by the House Un-American Activities Committee back in 1947. The charge was, unfortunately, pretty unfounded. But jail terms and ruined careers followed.
    The always unpious Coens relentlessly mock these hapless commies, portraying them sitting around comfortably in beige and brown cardigans and slacks that match the neutral décor of the elegantly modernist beach house they’re using as a hideout. There they smoke pipes and eat finger sandwiches with the crusts cut off, and remember with glee the time they managed to get a movie made in which a “rotten election was overturned and Gus was made the mayor.”
    “I fancy we changed some minds,” smirks the lead communist.
    This is the inept cabal that sends the ransom note, signing it “The Future.”
    There’s a rival take on “The Future” offered by the Lougheed Aircraft executive who tries to persuade Eddie Mannix to leave the “doomed” Hollywood studio system. The executive asks, “What are you gonna do when everybody buys a television set?” The executive’s illustration of “The Future” is a photo of the mushroom cloud generated by the hydrogen bomb test over Bikini Atoll, “just a coupla rocks in the Pacific.”
    There are two rocks jutting up out of the Pacific in front of the communists’ beach-house hideaway, too. The Coens like these kind of neatly repeated motifs that form complex patterns of meaning. Which set of rocks will prove more potent in locking down “The Future”?
    “Armageddon,” mutters Eddie Mannix as he looks at the H-bomb photo, but that doesn’t immediately make up his mind to reject the Lougheed Aircraft offer. Prepping for Armageddon is pretty lucrative, after all; the hours are better, and Mannix reckons that it’d be easier (though less interesting) than managing the ever-fluctuating crises and complexities of mass-producing films.
    At this point in the film it seems like the communist vision is ruled out as a contender for “The Future.” But despite each individual communist in the film being presented as fatuous, a scene near the end of the film is devoted to showing how right their basic assessment of capitalism is.
    Soon after Baird Whitlock is rescued from the inattentive communists by Hobie Doyle (who regards the kidnapping as “bad for movie stars everywhere”), he’s back at Capitol Pictures spouting off to Eddie Mannix about his newfound political ideas.
    “It’s all in a book called Kapital with a ‘K,’” enthuses Baird, “These communists have even figured out what goes on here at this studio!”
    Eddie Mannix listens with his usual expressionless stone face until Baird gets to the part about how the studio makes pictures just to “confirm what they call ‘the status quo.’” Baird says that studio employees might think they’re doing work that has artistic or spiritual value, but really all they’re doing is generating profits for top studio bosses like “that fat cat Joe Schenk!”
    That’s when Eddie Mannix’s granite features crack in disgust and he starts slapping Baird Whitlock around. He soon reduces Baird to cringing abjection and sends him back to work on Hail Caesar! A Tale of the Christ with a command to shut up and do his job just like “the director, the writer, the script girl, and the guy who claps the slate.”
    This violence and coercion, which always threatens to burst forth as Eddie Mannix spends his fraught days and nights “fixing” a host of threats to the studio’s mass production, confirms the basic principles articulated earlier by Baird’s new friends, the communists. They warned Baird that as a star “owned” by the studio, he was only a highly paid, unusually pampered, exploited worker.
    But the film doesn’t end here; it sweeps by the communists in apparent tribute to Eddie’s sense of the value of films. Films are religion in a popular form, infinitely worthwhile because, as Eddie puts it, “People don’t want facts — they want to believe!” And it’s the forces of capitalism, aligned with organized religion, that display a consistent recognition, understanding, and ability to exploit this basic truth of human desire.
    In the end, we see Eddie’s own movie-faith affirmed when, instead of going back to the giant crucifix in the cathedral to pray over his final decision to stay at the studio, he goes to the set of Hail Caesar! A Tale of the Christ where he can pray under the three crosses set up there for the next day’s shoot.
    Finally, Baird is back on set, doing his job by giving the performance of a lifetime playing a Roman tribune who comes to worship at the feet of a crucified Christ. The music swells, the camera pans up to the heavens, and the grandiose voice-of-God narration intones:
    The story begins, the story ends — so it must be. But the story of Eddie Mannix will never end. For his is a tale written in light everlasting.
    If you’re interested in parsing this (as the Coens clearly are), “written in light” refers to photography, the basis for film. (Tracing the etymology, “photos” is from the Greek, meaning “light”; and “graphos” meaning writing or delineation.) It’s a phrase that gets used a lot to refer to film in an elevated way: for example, Writing in Light is a book about the Japanese “pure cinema” movement, and noted cinematographer Vittorio Storaro titled his two-volume celebration of his own craft Writing With Light.
    “Light everlasting” is obviously the language of the sacred. In John 8:12 Jesus declares, “I am the Light of the world.” And “life everlasting” is part of the recitation of belief that makes up the Apostles’ Creed, which devout Eddie Mannix would know by heart: “I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic and apostolic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting.”
    Thus Eddie becomes a kind of eternal “Film Jesus” whose story will never end, whose works will extend past the crumbling of the studio system (which will be succeeded by a reconfigured studio system functioning as part of several global multinational corporations).
    His movie productions “written in light” gives him ironic dominion over the future — that much-contested terrain in the film. And of course, in the theater we’re watching the film that is Eddie’s tale written in light everlasting.
    If it’s possible to create a tribute to popular film that’s both completely loving and completely scathing at the same time, the Coens have managed it. It’s a mind-blower.
    But you’d better see it fast if you want to catch it in theaters. Because the American public seems to dislike it almost as much as they dislike hearing about “the dialectic.” Of course, it wouldn’t be the first time that audiences rejected a Coen film on first release and then embraced it after multiple viewings online or on DVD. (See: The Big Lebowski.)
    The general public might prefer to see instead several upcoming films representing the most literal version of the desire to believe that Eddie Mannix identifies. Coming soon to a theater near you are The Young Messiah, Miracles From Heaven, and Risen, starring Joseph Fiennes as a brutal Roman tribune who undergoes a spiritual conversion after witnessing the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Yes, folks, we’ve got our very own contemporary Hail Caesar! A Tale of the Christ currently previewing in theaters. Try that for irony, Coen-style.


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    Post by Filipenko Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:55 pm

    Nije valjda da glumi ta puvara sa slike za koju se vaskoliko piarstvo uporno bori da dokaže da je riba koju svako želi, dok svojim dubokim glasom rasteruje aligatore iz močvara Luizijane? Fuj.
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    Post by Erős Pista Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:57 pm

    Ne, stavili su njenu sliku bez ikakve veze sa filmom.


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    Post by Filipenko Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:58 pm

    Sada vidim da glumi i muška verzija, George (C)Looney. Mora da je dobar film  Hail, Ceasar! 2952840586
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    Post by Erős Pista Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:02 am

    Nećeš mi veorvati, tolki dobri glumci, a dosadan.


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    Post by kondo Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:13 am

    dosadan, ja prespavao 40 minuta, probudio se i nastavio dalje. nisam osetio da mi nesto zafalilo...


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    Post by Somlói Galuska Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:39 am

    Meni super bio film, al' ne mogu sad da pišem, sutra ću.
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    Post by boomer crook Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:40 am

    meni je odlican. posle otisao kuci i pogledao burton fink pa trazio fotku channinga tatuma u mornarskom odelu da stavim na profil Hail, Ceasar! 1399639816


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    Post by Erős Pista Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:43 am

    Hail, Ceasar! 3579118792


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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:56 pm

    Odličan! Vrlo zabavan, samo je šteta što je dio s komunistima dan tako trivijalno, bilo je tu za više. 
    Ralph Fiennes minijatura, i ostali odlični.


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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:05 pm

    Ja ne mislim da je taj deo trivijalan - oni su zapravo pravi heroji filma. SSSR je potonuo kao ona podmornica, ostali su oni koji ubacuju komunisticke poruke u kapitalisticku zabav.

    Genijalan je i naslov filma u filmu, Hail Ceasar! The stor. Of Christ  Hail, Ceasar! 3579118792


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    Post by Somlói Galuska Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:00 pm

    Ja isto ne mislim da je taj deo trivijalan, u stvari su dramaturzi-komunisti tu pravi koenovski junaci - ljudi koji imaju naivnu, gotovo infantilnu ideju o kriminalu, ima takvih u mnogim filmovima Koena, npr. dvoje fitnes idiota u Burn After Reading.
    Meni je inače neverovatno koliko je sa nerazumevanjem primljen taj deo kod domaće kritike. Ghoul napada Koene jer po njemu Koeni optužuju dramaturge za špijunažu, a Williamov dobar drug Hail, Ceasar! 286371741 tvrdi da Koeni "dokazuju krivicu komunista i da je HUAC bila u pravu" Hail, Ceasar! 3579118792 Hail, Ceasar! 3274312807.
    Koeni, međutim, tu dosledno rade ono što rade i u čitavom filmu - ekranizuju urbane legende, mitove i zablude o klasičnom Holivudu, pri čemu to rade s ironijom, ali i s ljubavlju, na način klasičnog Holivuda. Holivudizacija klasičnog Holivuda.
    Tako je, recimo bila priča za Tom Mixa da nije otišao da radi na radiju, kao mnoge zvezde njegovog vremena, jer je imao neočekivano piskav glas i nije u stvari umeo da govori, što mu nije ni trebalo za nemi film. E. J. Mannix, nasuprot legendi, sigurno nije stvarno šamarao glumce.
    Moram da priznam da mi jedino nije jasno zašto se glumica koja izađe na dejt sa Hobijem Dojlom zove  Carlotta Valdez
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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:05 pm

    William Murderface wrote:Ja ne mislim da je taj deo trivijalan - oni su zapravo pravi heroji filma. SSSR je potonuo kao ona podmornica, ostali su oni koji ubacuju komunisticke poruke u kapitalisticku zabav.
    Smetalo mi zapravo što su komunjare prikazani kao redikuli&oriđinali. Svi ostali likovi govore više manje u skladu s realnim očekivanjem, jedino ovi sami bulšit. 
    Meni fantastičan dio bio kad Withlock priča Mannixu o komunistima i kako su u pravu, pa podvije rep. 
    Ma mnoštvo perfektnih scena. Kad Hobie Doyle gleda svoju scenu s gitarom gdje komičar odvuče pažnju, onaj djelić sekunde kad ne shvata i čudi se da iko skreće pažnju s ljepotana s gitarom. 
    I ovo što kaže Anđe'o o Holivudu. Toplina i ljubav kao u Američkoj noći.  



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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:22 pm

    Anđe'o wrote:Ja isto ne mislim da je taj deo trivijalan, u stvari su dramaturzi-komunisti tu pravi koenovski junaci - ljudi koji imaju naivnu, gotovo infantilnu ideju o kriminalu, ima takvih u mnogim filmovima Koena, npr. dvoje fitnes idiota u Burn After Reading.
    Meni je inače neverovatno koliko je sa nerazumevanjem primljen taj deo kod domaće kritike. Ghoul napada Koene jer po njemu Koeni optužuju dramaturge za špijunažu, a Williamov dobar drug Hail, Ceasar! 286371741 tvrdi da Koeni "dokazuju krivicu komunista i da je HUAC bila u pravu" Hail, Ceasar! 3579118792 Hail, Ceasar! 3274312807.
    Koeni, međutim, tu dosledno rade ono što rade i u čitavom filmu - ekranizuju urbane legende, mitove i zablude o klasičnom Holivudu, pri čemu to rade s ironijom, ali i s ljubavlju, na način klasičnog Holivuda. Holivudizacija klasičnog Holivuda.
    Tako je, recimo bila priča za Tom Mixa da nije otišao da radi na radiju, kao mnoge zvezde njegovog vremena, jer je imao neočekivano piskav glas i nije u stvari umeo da govori, što mu nije ni trebalo za nemi film. E. J. Mannix, nasuprot legendi, sigurno nije stvarno šamarao glumce.
    Moram da priznam da mi jedino nije jasno zašto se glumica koja izađe na dejt sa Hobijem Dojlom zove  Carlotta Valdez

     Ludi Armond White piše isto što i Dete Mita. Koeni rakrinkali komunjare!

    The screenwriter scenes feature a coup: The high-living scribes are visited and encouraged by one Herbert Marcuse, spoofing the famous philosopher of the Frankfurt School, who comes down from his tenured perch at Stanford to foment the studio revolt. (“History — economics. Same thing, don’t you agree?” the sage pontificates.) The Marcuse joke corresponds with the Frankfurt School condemnation of Michael Walsh’s essential bookThe Devil's Pleasure Palace: The Cult of Critical Theory and the Subversion of the West. Credit the Coens’ superior snarkiness for their being the first American filmmakers to bring up cultural hegemony in a mainstream motion picture. They had previously invoked the SDS’s Port Huron Statement and art-world nihilists in The Big Lebowski, but with no political resonance. Hail, Caesar! exposes the sanctimoniousness of Ben-Hur kitsch as well as the self-conscious moralism of Frankfurt philosophers such as Marcuse and Theodor Adorno, author (with Max Horkheimer) of the oft-quoted but rarely heeded indictment The Culture Industry.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430815/hail-ceasar-coen-brothers-movie-review-cultural-satire

    Lud ko struja. Klikni na ovu knjigu "Devil's pleasure Palace"). Antonić da mu pozavidi na izboru literature.


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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:28 pm

    otto katz wrote:
    William Murderface wrote:Ja ne mislim da je taj deo trivijalan - oni su zapravo pravi heroji filma. SSSR je potonuo kao ona podmornica, ostali su oni koji ubacuju komunisticke poruke u kapitalisticku zabav.
    Smetalo mi zapravo što su komunjare prikazani kao redikuli&oriđinali. Svi ostali likovi govore više manje u skladu s realnim očekivanjem, jedino ovi sami bulšit. 
    Meni fantastičan dio bio kad Withlock priča Mannixu o komunistima i kako su u pravu, pa podvije rep. 
    Ma mnoštvo perfektnih scena. Kad Hobie Doyle gleda svoju scenu s gitarom gdje komičar odvuče pažnju, onaj djelić sekunde kad ne shvata i čudi se da iko skreće pažnju s ljepotana s gitarom. 
    I ovo što kaže Anđe'o o Holivudu. Toplina i ljubav kao u Američkoj noći.  



    Ja mislim da je ta naivnost deo njihovog šarma. A i oni su zapravo najbliže samim Koenima, pa je to malo i autokarikatura.

    Komunistička zavera Holivuda je u sledećem - da bi bio dobar opijum za narod, on mora da im obeća uverljivu utopiju. Ali kad to učini, on prestaje da bude samo opijum i postaje nešto više - obećanje i mogućnost drugačijeg sveta. Tako sam barem ja shvatio taj deo sa šeprtljavim komunistima-zaverenicima. Oni su neophodan deo filmske magije. Slave Cezara, ali pričaju priču o Hristu.


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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:31 pm

    Mene inače oduševilo kad se pokaže da je selja Hobi zapravo prilično promućuran i da on zapravo prvi provali clue ko je kidnapovao Vitloka.

    Dobre su i one scene kad se briše razlika između filma i stvarnosti, recimo kad njih dvoje (Hobi i Karlota) spontano zapevaju u restoranu.


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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:04 pm

    Pa tebi vidim film sve zanimljiviji što se produljuje vrijeme otkako si ga vidio. Kad ti je bilo dosadno? Meni one scene sa sestrama trač novinarkama najnezanimljivije.


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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:07 pm

    Ma nije mi uopšte bilo dosadno, zajebavam Filipa Hail, Ceasar! 1143415371

    Super mi je bio filma, glasno smo se smejali nas dvoje sve vreme.


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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:09 pm

    otto katz wrote:Pa tebi vidim film sve zanimljiviji što se produljuje vrijeme otkako si ga vidio. Kad ti je bilo dosadno? Meni one scene sa sestrama trač novinarkama najnezanimljivije.

    Meni bilo okej, ali priznajem da mi je manje značilo to nego one fore na račun filmova. Ovo je valjda neka parodija na navodnu razliku između tračerskih i kao posh, a u suštini opet tračerskih časopisa. Ali nije me to nešto pogodilo.

    E, da prijatno me iznenadilo ponavljanje Kristofera Lamberta, junaka mog detinjstva.


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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:16 pm

    Kakvo ponavljanje?


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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:21 pm

    Ma ne ponavljanje, pojavljivanje. Ne znam šta pišem Hail, Ceasar! 1143415371


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    Post by Guest Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:23 pm

    meni Barton Fink najmanje drag njihov film Hail, Ceasar! 4135669698 jel mnogo liče?
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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:32 pm

    Pa liče samo po temi - komunisti u Holivudu - ali inače su vrlo različiti. Ovo je vrlo veseo film.


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    Post by Somlói Galuska Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:38 am

    William Murderface wrote:Mene inače oduševilo kad se pokaže da je selja Hobi zapravo prilično promućuran i da on zapravo prvi provali clue ko je kidnapovao Vitloka.
     

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    Post by Indy Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:57 am

    Tek čitajući ovu temu shvatih da je Hail Caesar film Braće Coen. A nisam planirao da gledam, nije me privlačio... Sad, moram to da uhvatim, a tek sam na pola puta kroz beskrajni francuski fest.

    Btw, Vaso, šta fali Bartonu Finku, meni baš dobar. Ladykillers mi ubedljivo najgori od njih. Sve ostalo manje više gotivim.

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