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    Post by шумидер-модер Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:42 pm

    Gusztav Vege wrote:...nastaje panika i nezapamćeni talas mržnje.
    u kome se, naravno, takozvane elite snalaze kao ona cuvena riba u vodi.

    Problem u pobednickom kapitalizmu koji je danas globalno drustveno uredjenje, da se posluzim klasicnom politickom terminologijom, je zaboravljena cinjenica da je kapitalizmu kao sistemu imanentan konflikt, isto onoliko kao toliko hvaljena i zeljena kompetitivnost.
    Protivrecnosti se resavaju iskljucivo konfliktom: nas samo iznova iznenadjuje zaboravljena cinjenica da se ratovi ne moraju da vode, bili oni hladni ili vruci, iz ideoloskih razloga.
    Vraca nam se, kao vrsti, rat kao resenje ekonomskih problema i nikakva takozvana ponovna citanja istorije to ne mogu da izmene, treba se samo setiti starog, dobrog i istinitog nazivanja Prvog svetskog rata ratom za ponovnu podelu sveta, ali i cinjenice da je on vodjen izmedju drzava koje su imale iste drustvene sisteme sa prakticno zanemarljivim ideoloskim razlikama.
    Ideologizacija do koje je doslo posle Oktobarske revolucije i koja je do ekstrema dovedena u Hladnom ratu imala je - za obe strane, pa i za takozvane siroke narodne mase - neku, kakvu-takvu perspektivu vrednu angazmana svake vrste, od gerilca u azijskim dzunglama, do evropskog intelektualca.
    Danas imamo pre svega idejni pa zatim i ideoloski vakuum koji za sada, na nasu bruku i sramotu kao vrste, popunjava - ISIS.


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    Post by boomer crook Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:12 am

    kevin ovenden

    "Greece requests six month extension to the bailout (to which the memorandum conditions are attached). This was the timeframe mooted before the election by the outgoing finance minister and the incoming right hand man to Alexis Tsipras, Yannis Dragasakis. Three points:
    1) the devil will be in the detail - which has yet to be agreed.
    2) will there be linkage to humanitarian relief programme the Syriza government proposes.
    3) this is clearly about buying time. There is nothing in principle wrong with doing that. The question is - what to do in the short amount of time you buy and at what price? It is in terms of that dilemma that seemingly conjunctural and tactical decisions - such as the nomination for the honorific post of president - need to be judged. Tactical shifts and even retreats are inevitable - necessary in that sense - in following a strategic line. But there can come a moment when the accumulation of the tactical and conjunctural in fact adumbrates a different line of march. This does not mean that every decision is a fork in the road. But it does mean constantly looking up to see what road we are on."


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    Post by Bluberi Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:37 am

    Yanis Varoufakis@yanisvaroufakis 23m23 minutes ago
    What Greece should do - or shouldn't https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/02/19/greece-should-not-give-in-to-germanys-bullying-euro-syriza-merkel-varoufakis/ …
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    Post by ontheotherhand Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:19 pm

    Članak ekonomskog istoričara sa LSE iz 2011. o Nemačkom dugu:

    Germany Was Biggest Debt Transgressor of 20th Century

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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:23 pm

    Odličan intervju.


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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:45 pm

    Ovo će izgleda potrajati. Merkelova kvoca nad sporazumom, u fazonu "Uradiće moja Grčkica ono što se traži od nje jer zna da je to dobro za nju, je li tako, pile moje egejsko", a Šojble i Varufakis ne mogu ni da sede u istoj sobi.

    Sources say Schauble and Varoufakis in separate rooms with shuttle diplomacy by Lagarde, Moscovici, Dijsselbloem btwn them #Eurogroup
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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:21 pm

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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:54 pm

    Jacobin @jacobinmag 38s38 seconds ago
    Word from Syriza is that an agreement with eurozone was just made. More soon.



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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:55 pm

    Tony Connelly@tconnellyRTE  11m11 minutes ago  
    Draft statemnt on deal to overcome Greek debt crisis has been circulated acc to source. "Greece seems to have given in completely": official


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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:19 pm

    REPORT: Greek finance minister Varoufakis almost got into a physical altercation with the Eurogroup chairman

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/report-german-and-greek-finance-ministers-not-on-speaking-terms-2015-2#ixzz3SJJvELLa


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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:28 pm

    jebote


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    i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:32 pm

    Eurozone finance ministers discussing draft Greece accord - live updates


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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:32 pm

    2m ago18:30
    Our woman in Brussels Jennifer Rankin quotes a Greek government official as saying:
    There is an initial agreement on a joint draft text among the institutional partners, which is now being presented to all of the ministers.
    The euro has risen further, to $1.1404.
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    6m ago18:26
    Over in Athens, Mega TV on its flagship news programme is reporting the following, says Helena Smith:

    • A four-month extension of Greece’s bailout programme is in the works
    • The interim programme will not include austerity measures
    • Greece commits to not making any unilateral moves - such as raising the minimum wage or protecting primary homes from foreclosures



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    Post by boomer crook Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:39 pm

    marksisticka analiza

    https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2015/02/20/troika-grexit-or-plan-b/


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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:10 pm

    znaci aktualna ponuda na stolu je za naredna 4 meseca finansiranja drzave, a ne 6 kao sto je ranije bilo (i kao sto je pretpostavljam svaki dosadasnji program iznosio). sve strane javljaju napredak u procesu izrade dokumenta, ali jos uvek ima dosta da se pregovara.


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    i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:14 pm

    koliko ja razumem poslednja ekstenzija je bila na samo dva meseca.


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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:18 pm

    Gusztav Vege wrote:Ovo će izgleda potrajati. Merkelova kvoca nad sporazumom, u fazonu "Uradiće moja Grčkica ono što se traži od nje jer zna da je to dobro za nju, je li tako, pile moje egejsko", a Šojble i Varufakis ne mogu ni da sede u istoj sobi.

    Sources say Schauble and Varoufakis in separate rooms with shuttle diplomacy by Lagarde, Moscovici, Dijsselbloem btwn them #Eurogroup


    nema veze naravno sa ovim, ali me podsetilo na cirkus milana milutinovica za vreme onih rambuje pregovora, kad se isto nije sedelo u istoj sobi, a on posle imao cuvene izjave ke sera sera i sta je jel igra mecka.
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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:42 pm

    merkeline pudlice skacu i reze:

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    i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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    Post by Daï Djakman Faré Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:42 pm

    btw, izgleda je gotovo


    Deal to extend Greek bailout by four months "done"

    Looks like a deal on Greece has been sealed. Reuters reports that Greece and eurozone finance ministers have agreed to extend the Greek baiilout by four months. One official said:
    It’s done. For four months.


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    i would like to talk here about The Last of Us on HBO... and yeah, yeah i know.. the world is burning but lets just all sit and talk about television. again - what else are we doing with ourselves ? we are not creating any militias. but my god we still have the content. appraising content is the american modus vivendi.. that's why we are here for. to absorb the content and then render some sort of a judgment on content. because there is a buried hope that if enough people have the right opinion about the content - the content will get better which will then flow to our structures and make the world a better place
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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:08 pm

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    Syriza ftw - Page 12 PT2fKtAl_bigger Dugald MacMillan@DugaldMacMillan 8m8 minutes ago
    So the loan shark and her heavies slap #Greece about and say we'll be back in a few weeks. With interest. #Eurogroup #Grexit


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    Post by Indy Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:31 pm

    William Murderface wrote:REPORT: Greek finance minister Varoufakis almost got into a physical altercation with the Eurogroup chairman

    To! A sad, (bukvalni) dick swinging contest! :sejlor:

    Baš fino da je neko razmrdao napudranu finansijsku elitu.
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    Post by Mr.Pink Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:40 pm

    pre će biti da je sirizu razdrmao današnji bank run!
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    Post by Filipenko Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:40 pm

    OK, to bi bilo to.

    Sada čekamo Španiju i ostale...
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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:05 pm

    Ne može šut sa rogatim.

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