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    Post by čika Condor Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:25 pm

    Bilo je i ratne odštete. Valjaonica bakra u Sevojnu npr.

    Ed: mada mi se mnogo sviđa ovaj izraz: ”Tito trampio”. Konačno sam shvatio na koga me Tramp podseća kada krene da baljezga sve što mu tog trenutka padne na pamet.
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:29 pm

    čika Condor wrote:Bilo je i ratne odštete. Valjaonica bakra u Sevojnu npr.

    Naravno da je bilo, znam i za mašine, odnosno kompletna prizvodna linija karabina i mitraljeza. Imovina banatskih Nijemaca je valjda izbijena iz ukupne cijene odštete.


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:33 am

    A zatvorenici koji su radili u Nemačkoj tokom rata su od te odštete dobili… kurac da izbiju oči, uglavnom.


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    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by disident Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:37 am

    Genocid 


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    Post by plachkica Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:29 pm

    [size=60]Fact check: Amsterdam video doesn't show attack on Israelis[/size]

    Rayna Breuer | Rachel Baig
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    Violence broke out following the recent Europa League match between Ajax Amsterdam and Maccabi Tel Aviv. A video showing the riots was misrepresented by many media outlets. DW takes a closer look

    In the days after the riots following the soccer match between Ajax Amsterdam and Maccabi Tel Aviv, international media coverage of the event has been heavily criticized. A video published by a Dutch photographer on the X platform was rebroadcast by many media outlets — and misrepresented in the process.

    On the night from Thursday to Friday in Amsterdam, Israeli fans clashed with locals and pro-Palestinian supporters during the Europa League match between Dutch first-division team Ajax Amsterdam and Maccabi Tel Aviv. According to police, riots broke out in several places in the city center, 62 people were arrested and five people were taken to hospital.

    The attacks on Israeli fans in Amsterdam have caused international outrage. However, according to the police, Maccabi supporters had also previously rioted and provoked, burning Palestinian flags, among other acts.

    To illustrate this, a video by Dutch photographer Annet De Graaf was used several times to show the acts of violence committed by Israeli fans. However, it was misrepresented by many major media outlets in their reporting. Many users shared and disseminated the viral posts with the same false claims, as seen here.

    German media outlets such as the German broadcaster Tagesschau, the newspapers FAZ and Bild, and international media like the The Wall Street Journal, Channel 4, and BBC showed either parts of this video or screenshots.

    Claim: "Israeli soccer fans were chased and beaten in Amsterdam in what Israeli and Dutch politicians called antisemitic attacks," wrote The Wall Street Journal in a headline found here.

    The German newspaper Bild also used a screenshot from the video with the caption: "The hunt for Jews has broken out again: Arab mob chases soccer fans in Amsterdam."

    DW Fact check: False

    The video by De Graaf actually shows supporters of the Israeli soccer club Maccabi Tel Aviv attacking locals around Amsterdam Central Station.

    It, therefore, does not show pro-Palestinians chasing Israelis, as has been falsely claimed by several media outlets, but instead Israeli soccer fans attacking locals and pro-Palestinian soccer fans.

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    Another video by a young Dutch reporter, Ome Bender, supports De Graaf's version because it shows the same violent scenes from a different angle.
    Many users have repeatedly pointed out the misuse of the images on social networks, as has  De Graaf herself. They explained that the perpetrators were Israeli, and not pro-Palestinian soccer fans.
    In a viral post, De Graaf asked the media to classify her material correctly and issue an apology. A journalist from Tagesschau has already complied with this request. Tagesschau itself has issued a correction and edited the initial video and posted a new version online.
    DW also did not initially categorize the images correctly, but has since published a correction under the post:
    "We showed the clips marked with the watermark X/iAnnet in the wrong context. The author of the clip says she filmed Maccabi supporters who attacked Amsterdam citizens in front of Central Station after the game."
    Other media have now also replaced or deleted the video sequences or published corrections.
    The exact identity of the men in the video remains unclear. A spokeswoman for the Amsterdam police said in an interview with DW that the video taken by the Dutch photographer is the subject of an ongoing investigation. At present, the police cannot provide any information about the identity of the perpetrators seen in the video.
    Edited by: Martin Kuebler
    https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-amsterdam-video-doesnt-show-attack-on-israelis/a-70763374
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    Post by beatakeshi Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:44 pm

    Vraćanje perja u jastuk je često jalov posao.
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    Post by паће Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:59 pm

    beatakeshi wrote:Vraćanje perja u jastuk je često jalov posao.

    И даље је лакше него враћање пасте у тубу... Ал' тачно сам знао да ће овако бити, да ће она прва вест („израелски навијачи дивљали па добили по пичци“) да буде склоњена и да ће контра добити много већи тираж.

    (ако чЦ буде написао нешто, не читам га)


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    Post by čika Condor Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:11 pm

    Evo Paće samo za tebe: čika C misli da kad se tuku navijači - da tu obično nema pravedne strane.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:19 pm

    Da, kao onomad kad su se oni francuzi pokacili sa grobarima.


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    Post by čika Condor Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:29 pm

    Ti ”francuzi” su, koliko mi je poznato, bili u jednini.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:34 pm

    Koliko je meni poznato, a provereno na vikipediji, bili su u petnaestoclanoj jednini.


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    Post by čika Condor Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:42 pm

    Moguće, nisam upoznat sa detaljima. U Amsterdamu makar nikog nisu ubili, pretpostavljam pukom srećom.
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    Post by Sox Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:29 pm

    Prica se da je Izrael ponudio da zaustavi operacije u Libanu od januara ali zato nece odustati od Palestinske samouprave.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:44 pm

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    Post by Old Dry Keith Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:01 pm

    Koje restrikcije


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    Post by disident Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:06 pm

    One Eyed Bob wrote:Koje restrikcije
    Kao onaj vic, kad lik ide oko i prska protiv krokodila


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    Post by паће Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:23 pm

    disident wrote:
    One Eyed Bob wrote:Koje restrikcije
    Kao onaj vic, kad lik ide oko i prska protiv krokodila

    Још јаче, ствара привид да су биле неке рестрикције, ал' ето он ће то да укине.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:49 pm

    disident wrote:
    One Eyed Bob wrote:Koje restrikcije
    Kao onaj vic, kad lik ide oko i prska protiv krokodila

    Zmajeva
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    Post by MNE Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:08 pm

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    Post by Del Cap Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:20 pm

    ne za genocid, doduše, ne zaleću se još toliko (za razliku od putina):


    On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Benjamin NETANYAHU, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav GALLANT, the Minister of Defence of Israel, bear criminal responsibility for  the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 8 October 2023:

       Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(b)(xxv) of the Statute;
       Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health contrary to article 8(2)(a)(iii), or cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
       Wilful killing contrary to article 8(2)(a)(i), or Murder as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
       Intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population as a war crime contrary to articles 8(2)(b)(i), or 8(2)(e)(i);
       Extermination and/or murder contrary to articles 7(1)(b) and 7(1)(a), including in the context of deaths caused by starvation, as a crime against humanity;
       Persecution as a crime against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(h);
       Other inhumane acts as crimes against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(k).


    i protiv vrha hamasa (uključujući i pokojnog sinvara, ne znam što tako):

    On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Yahya SINWAR (Head of the Islamic Resistance Movement (“Hamas”) in the Gaza Strip), Mohammed Diab Ibrahim AL-MASRI, more commonly known as DEIF (Commander-in-Chief of the military wing of Hamas, known as the Al-Qassam Brigades), and Ismail HANIYEH (Head of Hamas Political Bureau) bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of Israel and the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 7 October 2023:

       Extermination as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(b) of the Rome Statute;
       Murder as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(a), and as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
       Taking hostages as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(iii);
       Rape and other acts of sexual violence as crimes against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(g), and also as war crimes pursuant to article 8(2)(e)(vi) in the context of captivity;
       Torture as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(f), and also as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i), in the context of captivity;
       Other inhumane acts as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(l)(k), in the context of captivity;
       Cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i), in the context of captivity; and
       Outrages upon personal dignity as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(ii), in the context of captivity.
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    Post by Del Cap Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:20 pm

    bibi & putin, begunci od haške pravde
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    Post by disident Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:27 pm

    Čekamo da se kanadska kmetina oglasi  Блиски исток - Page 4 1727922752


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    Post by Sox Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:19 pm

    Dodje Izrael na nivo SRJ, ko bi rekao. Doduse jos nemaju sankcije onakve kakve je imala SRJ, sto je najvaznije.

    Zanimljiv je odnos Izraela i Rusije sada. Na Levatnu su, mozda, na suprotnim stranama, mada po Siriji ne bih rekao da su veliki protivnici.
    Sa druge strane, sada imaju zajednicke neke druge ciljeve.

    Videcemo sta ce biti sa svim medjunarodnim sudovima u buducnosti, mnogo velikih igraca hoce da se to eliminise.
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    Post by boomer crook Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:25 pm

    pa jos od kada su na istoj strani


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    Post by Thomas Sankara Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:24 pm

    disident wrote:Čekamo da se kanadska kmetina oglasi  Блиски исток - Page 4 1727922752

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